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Offline Alexioco

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Besslers Wheel?
« on: March 06, 2009, 12:28:00 AM »
Ok, here we go again, here is my latest design which seems to me to be getting closer...

Its a flip design: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=1zlej3c&s=5

(The "dotted" lines are the weights on the other side of the wheel...)

As the 4 weights descend on the right hand side, one weight is lifted up into the middle at the bottom via the black roller.
Just as the bottom weight reaches the centre, the top weight is flipped up and over to join the other descending weights in order to the lift the next weights again, and again and again....


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Besslers Wheel?
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Re: Besslers Wheel?
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2009, 03:17:38 AM »
Alexioco

 That is a cool looking wheel. I hope it works for you. Do you think it will be able to flip both ends with the amount of friction that will cause?

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Re: Besslers Wheel?
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2009, 03:41:39 AM »
Alexioco

 That is a cool looking wheel. I hope it works for you. Do you think it will be able to flip both ends with the amount of friction that will cause?

Hello my friend :) Your post is much appreciated! Yep, thats a very good point, I'm hoping that the amount of weights descending will be heavy enough to overcome that... The material will also have to be slippery, plus the two small wheels that flip the weights would also need to have an axle, so they turn, so they have less friction.

Something hit me when you said "flip both ends" If you look at the "toy page" in Besslers drawing, it shows hammer men that flip from one side to another... Just a thought


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Re: Besslers Wheel?
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2009, 03:41:39 AM »
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Re: Besslers Wheel?
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2009, 08:28:16 PM »
Greetings Alex

 Well I believe to help reduce the friction in the shift would best be done by stagger them so only one shift happens at a time or some connectivity to take up and possibly work for counterbalance or even both.

I hope this helps some

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Re: Besslers Wheel?
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2009, 10:33:57 PM »
Greetings Alex

 Well I believe to help reduce the friction in the shift would best be done by stagger them so only one shift happens at a time or some connectivity to take up and possibly work for counterbalance or even both.

I hope this helps some

Well i designed the weights to lift at the top and botom but not at the same time, is this what you mean?

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Re: Besslers Wheel?
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Re: Besslers Wheel?
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2009, 01:40:33 AM »
Greetings Alex

 Yes it is. It was close in the drawing, I missed it :-[. Another thing to consider is the length of each arm to try to overpower the flip. The weight 4 times on the arm is a leaver and it takes 4 times the weight to equal it. So you have to determine the leverage lengths with the over balance. Adding the weights on the descending side against the ascending side. Now is there enough advantage to flip the weight. Testing will help narrow that down. Here is a test for you. Take 5 rods wights 5 weights on 1 side of a wheel and put a roller at the bottom similar to your design. Then see if the other 4 will flip the 1 and then take one off and try again if it flips. Now if it won't flip, add another arm, or no further need to finish the build as is and go back to the drawing board to see what else can be done.
 

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Re: Besslers Wheel?
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2009, 03:12:47 AM »
Well, quite a few months ago, I built this small wheel, except I only had the roller at the top, I didnt have one at the bottom, so the weights just hanged down at the bottom, anyway, as i Iet the wheel go, the weights started flipping at the top with quite a bit of force, but then stopped because like i say, i didnt have the bottom roller then...

The parts to the wheel are broken now so... Im thinking of starting to make this wheel I have posted (or try to) and just plsy around with it if it doesnt work, and see how I can improve on it..

Alex

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Re: Besslers Wheel?
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Re: Besslers Wheel?
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2009, 07:57:58 AM »
Someone seems to have made a working Bessler wheel. Read in english on the lower half of this page:
http://www.alfa-forschung.de.tl/BESSLER_Rad--k1-I-.--k2-.htm

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Re: Besslers Wheel?
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2009, 08:00:09 AM »
Is there any chance for the rotation of the Earth to be involved in the functioning of a Bessler wheel?

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Re: Besslers Wheel?
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Re: Besslers Wheel?
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2009, 06:36:55 PM »
Someone seems to have made a working Bessler wheel. Read in english on the lower half of this page:
http://www.alfa-forschung.de.tl/BESSLER_Rad--k1-I-.--k2-.htm

dpsvryrax

 I would have to be sceptically on this one. It fits the normal way cons start as well. Not saying it is a con, but it needs to be approached with a skeptical mind and wallet. We need physical proof. For even a hidden wheel will shown running, will show effects of possibilities if it is.

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Re: Besslers Wheel?
« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2009, 09:13:29 PM »
Someone seems to have made a working Bessler wheel. Read in english on the lower half of this page:
http://www.alfa-forschung.de.tl/BESSLER_Rad--k1-I-.--k2-.htm

Looks like just another scam.

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Re: Besslers Wheel?
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Re: Besslers Wheel?
« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2009, 01:11:55 AM »
Well, im slowly but surely, starting to build this wheel, i cant say for sure if it will work, it seems a good idea, but if it doesnt, then its something i can mess with and learn from...

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Re: Besslers Wheel?
« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2009, 02:49:10 AM »
Alexioco

 I would like a little advice. I was thinking of posting my idea but after the stuff from Bessler007 I am not sure if I want to do that. I see you posted and he didn't jump on you. What advice can you give me about posting around the creeps here?

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Re: Besslers Wheel?
« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2009, 03:00:13 AM »
Here's a little advice.  Can the name calling.

Here's some more.  Try an out of body experience.  That should get you away from a key creep.




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edit:  here's a little more free advice.  Keep away from vague generalizations (after the stuff from Bessler007) that are next to impossible to address and be specific.  Develop your ability to express yourself concisely.  It's a good skill.

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Re: Besslers Wheel?
« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2009, 03:33:48 AM »
Sorry Alexioco; It looks like I brought one with me. I guess I will have to try my personal message option.


 

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