I agree sushimoto. I'm also not religious. You could say I'm into spiritual scientific study, if that make sense to you-- not sure how to say it. Anyhow, it does seem like the "end times," but I firmly believe there will *not* be a world world III. Hopefully the transition will be as pain free as possible. 

BTW, a guy who's had a magazine of electronic kits for over 15 years said that there's no real legal danger in selling the kits with only a few exceptions.

Also, a lot of people have told me that if the Inventor doesn't have any money that no lawyer is going to file a law suite, as it's a pointless task. When the Inventor has money, then they should seriously consider getting the device UL approved.

PL

Yes, that makes sense paul.
Its harder to find "spiritual" or philosphical unity than building a OU-device.
I consider this point more importatnt that the political aspects.
A FE-device will not bring a WW III, because wars are just another advantage for the industrial-lobby. i.E. "Illuminati"

But all of this is just theoretical, unless somebody is having such a device in reality.
I have carefully considered all of this, but at the end you have to "drop the bomb". You call it Big Smoking Gun"?
Nobody can consider all the consequences.

Yoa are always sounding like having something.... But what?
Can I build it? Can i verify it? Can i spread it to my neighborhood?
Can i invite some media to make my neighborhood public after all?
Nobody can kill or surpress my neighborhood.
Not offending, just a question.

best,
sushimoto

Yes, that makes sense paul.
Its harder to find "spiritual" or philosphical unity than building a OU-device.
I consider this point more importatnt that the political aspects.
A FE-device will not bring a WW III, because wars are just another advantage for the industrial-lobby. i.E. "Illuminati"

A lot of people are talking about the Illuminati. Is there a good book you recommend on this topic?

Yoa are always sounding like having something.... But what?
Can I build it? Can i verify it? Can i spread it to my neighborhood?
Can i invite some media to make my neighborhood public after all?
Nobody can kill or surpress my neighborhood.
Not offending, just a question.

best,
sushimoto

That's true, a few years ago I was claiming to be very close. I was about two months away from building it, but a person who's name starts with a T kept asking me, three times in a row, to test his diode array. Finally I gave in-- my biggest mistake in decades!  So in two years time I succeed in proving that passive diode arrays produce a DC voltage across a load. I tried to find companies to give me a price quote on having a diode array chip made, that according to the mathematics of conventional physics would produce usable amounts of power. Emails were sent to various semiconductor fabrications. Nobody replied!  After getting upset with one company in email, they finally replied asking me to call them on phone. It seems they can't even give the reason in writing! This was frustrating. University professors are afraid to death of it. They have careers and reputations, and so why would they spend a lot of time verifying something when in their mind it won't work, and they'll get a bad rep from their peers for even wasting such time!  I challenged the Randi organization that clearly states on their website they accept perpetual motion claims. Well, my claim is a perpetual motion machine of the 2nd kind. After sending two emails, Randi's organization refused to even reply to me!  To make a long story short, I finally decided to go back to my magnetic research and finish where I left off.

PL

Maybe in 3 years what we call a million dollars will be a thousand dollars. Whatever. If a thousandaire is consider filthy rich then that's what the "free energy" inventor will be.    It's all relative.

Maybe in 7 years time the Moon & maybe Mars will be inhabited by thousandaires.

Does anyone have any good books on this Illuminati group?

PL

Does anyone have any good books on this Illuminati group?

Bible.

Hello Paul,

Congratulations on your successful FE invention.  I have been watching your threads (as have many hundreds of others) without speaking as I have nothing to add to your specific area of expertise.  I am very happy for you in your moment of triumph.

It’s the beginning of the end of business as usual in the United States and eventually the whole world as well.  The end of suppression, greed, powerful energy providers and those who monopolized (and gouged the hell out of us all) in the energy industry.  The tables may finally be turned on them.

I have patented an electrical device before and started out with a provisional patent first.  This provisional patent is only good for one year after filing the application.  You have one year to convert it into a full patent which I would NOT recommend you do yourself.  The provisional patent can be done yourself but I did mine with the help of an attorney.  If you are interested, I am willing to send you copies of both my provisional patent application along with my full filing (normal) patent application which I hired a professional patent attorney to prepare and file with the US Patent and Trademark Office on my behalf.  You could use them both as “templates” if you wish without incurring any cost at all to yourself. 

I can NOT post them on this site as they both contain very sensitive and private personal information of mine but I will mail them or FAX them to any location you desire or feel comfortable with.  Just say the word.

Sincerely,

Joe

 

Hi Joe,

Thanks very much!  I would be interested, but it may be a few months before I'm ready to create a provisional patent. I'll email then.


Hi Sushimoto,

If I understand you correctly, we should not get a patent because the government would own it? I don't know about that since the government doesn't care if you patent the device with other countries, but if the Inventor does *not* patent their device then scam artists and powerful & wealthy companies could patent it. Owning something from prior-art is very iffy and risky!  Posting the designs to forums, sending emails, letters, etc. is often *not* considered prior-art because it can be faked; e.g., hacking a server, faking a letter, etc. Prior-art is also recommended even though it's no guarantee to anything, but for $200 it's well worth the provisional patent. When the Invention makes money the person can have the device patented.


Thanks,
PL

Hello Paul,

Patenting seems to be the best avenue available for now.  I say this for several reasons.  Patenting something doesn’t prevent the owner from selling kits or giving out free information on replication requirements.  It does, however, prevent dishonest people for trying to claim your invention as their own and profit from it at your own exclusion. 

A few months ago I came across a set of plans for a very interesting hydrogen-on-demand type of invention.  The plans were being sold for around $30 (US dollars) and I was going to return to the site to purchase these plans after doing some further research.  It turned out that I had fortunately made a wise choice.  I found the same exact set of plans being offered for free by an open source researcher who originally invented this particular variation of electrolysis.  Some low life was selling his plans on another site and I’ll be willing to bet that the real inventor (the open source researcher/engineer) has little or no recourse he can take against the fake inventor as he has no patent or copyright protection. 

And this is not the only time I’ve seen this little scam pulled.  I hate to name names but I’ll hint at a manual that was being peddled RIGHT ON THIS SITE that was exactly the same as another inventor’s electric motor plans/designs many years in advance.  These people are BOLD!  They were doing this RIGHT HERE!

We should not need keys for our automobiles.  We should not need passwords and secret codes for our banking accounts.  We shouldn’t need to lock our doors, our school lockers or our home safes, but the reality is, we have to.  We know that if we do not protect our valuables, more than willing thieves will take everything we have.  If I’m wrong, then why can’t you find any houses that do not come with locks on the doors we you purchase them brand new?

We shouldn’t have to protect ourselves BUT YOU HAD BETTER BELIEVE WE HAVE TO!  What is really scary, Sushimoto, is what dishonest crooks can do to honest people who don't protect themselves.  What is also scary is that this is not common sense to you by now.

A patent affords the inventor a good deal of protection and this protection is only as good as the author of the patent.  It is in the inventor’s best interest to fully disclose every single aspect of his invention in detail completely and without omission.  A good patent should enable the reader to fully replicate the patented device right from the patent’s drawings, schematics and blueprints.  You may ask why this is important.  It is important because if someone else figures out what you omitted on purpose or on accident, they can file a patent on this aspect and get around your patent as you failed to mention what the other person is mentioning in their own version of your invention.  You can’t claim patent infringement if you are not the one holding a patent on the details of how to accomplish something.

One classic example is that of Stanley Meyer.  He left out many critical details in his many patents as well.  If someone would have stumbled onto them while he was alive, how could he claim the details that he left out to be his own?  He wouldn’t have been able to.  His mistake was very silly.  As soon as his product would have hit the market (that is if he hadn’t been poisoned to death) anyone could have disassembled his device and figured out what he had not disclosed in his patents.  And don’t tell me that did NOT omit things from his patents.  If his patents were completely forthcoming, others would have already been able to replicate his exact method of extracting hydrogen from water by now.

As for Sushimoto, the rules/laws in Germany do not apply to us here in the US until we become German citizens.  Here in the US, even provisional patents costs money.

When you are ready, Paul, I will still FAX or mail you a copy of a provisional and full-on patent that I have filed with the USPTO.  All I would ask in return is that you not disclose any of my personal information contained therein. 

Regards,

Joe
   


 

 

 

       

   

Hello FreeEnergy,

I had already read a long time ago what you have left for a link as of now.  I don’t agree.  You did NOT read carefully my last post.  Just because you patent something does not mean you are prevented from selling or giving out free plans of your device.  But if you give out free plans to your device without a patent, then lazy people can copy your plans and make a profit selling your hard work.  Some may even be able to patent your device and sue you for patent infringement.

If you desire to make lazy thieves rich, go right ahead!  Don’t let anybody stop you.  Try open sourcing your credit card number and PIN number while you’re at it. 

When you have a patent and go after a major corporation who has infringed on your patent, all of their GROSS PROFITS from the marketing of your invention become yours along with punitive damages and court costs.  Yes, even your lawyer’s fees are paid for you at their expense, as long as they really broke the law and you have a legitimate case.  And many attorneys will even take on a case like this for a percentage of the damages you recover.

Regards

Joe