Author Topic: First electrical power output from a Pyramid (Read 550858 times)

Walter Hofmann · « **Reply #780 on:** December 28, 2007, 01:05:30 AM »

Hi bill,
no it is 254mV, this DVM is the kind of automatic it switches over to the next higher seting automaticaly
greetings
walt

Quote from: Pirate88179 on December 28, 2007, 01:03:30 AM

@ Walter:

Was your meter set to read in volts? 254 vdc?? Incredible.!!

@ Jeanna:

Baby, you are a genius!!!! The trick was in SAYING it was a trick. You would make a good private investigator.

Bill

jeanna · « **Reply #781 on:** December 28, 2007, 01:38:18 AM »

Quote from: Walter Hofmann on December 28, 2007, 12:47:14 AM

Hi all,
here is a short video for all the courious guys in regards to what happens if a magnet is put close to the converter.
because the converter with the two coils on the vertical pipes gave no room to put the magnet right on this part I thoughd just put it on the vertical pipe because a magnet would stick to it and look the results
just amazing.
greetings
walt

OMG!
wow. Is that volts?
Oh I see your answer to Pirate. mv

jeanna

Walter Hofmann · « **Reply #782 on:** December 28, 2007, 11:22:58 AM »

Hi gustav22,
thats correct
greetingsa
walt

Quote from: Gustav22 on December 27, 2007, 12:47:13 PM

Hi Walter,

thank you very much for the efforts you make and for reporting your results.
Did I understand your setup correctly:

1.) As I understand you have connected each carbon/graphite rod to its coil. Then you have connected the ends of both coils to the SAME plate of the central cap. This goes to the plus of your DMM (digital multi meter).
Please confirm.

2.) The other plate of the central cap is connected to the pyramid steel frame. This goes to the neg. of your DMM.
Please confirm.

3.) The copper tubing of the pickup.
Is it completely isolated from all other components or is it connected to one side of the central cap?
Please confirm.

4.) Your converter is located at a height of 225 mm between your cardboard base plate and the center point of the cap.
Please confirm.

Sorry.
I am aware that all of this has been asked before, but I find no concise description of your current setup, which seems the best setup anyone has come up with so far.
Thanks again.

edit: the above description was wrong. Walter has confirmed the following setup:

1.) Each carbon/graphite rod is connected to its coil. Then the lower end of the left coil is connected to front plate of the central cap. The lower end of the right coil is connected to the other face plate of the central cap. The left coil goes to the plus of the DVM (digital volt meter).

2.) The copper tubing of the pickup is floating (i.e. it has no electrical connection to anything).

3.) The neg. of the DVM is connected to the steel frame of the pyramid.

4.) The converter is located at a height of 200 mm between cardboard base plate and the center point of the central cap.

neptune · « **Reply #783 on:** December 28, 2007, 04:52:37 PM »

@ Walt, congrats on your magnet results, and also to Jeanna for his input. I am not in a position to do much with my set-up at the moment because work is megga busy and the wife's brother is in hospital 70 miles away and we have to visit him. it has occurred to me that although walt`s results are impressive, the odds against him having achieved the optimum magnetic field in the right place are very small. therefore more experiments are needed here. One possibility is to use the magnets from the magnetron of a microwave oven. These are toroid shaped, [circular with a hole]. What I shall try is to place one on each side of the copper frame above my coils. |One north pole up, and one south pole up. Then I shall reverse each magnet and compare results. I f anyone who has a converter with removable top piece beats me to it., that is OK by me A stronger field could be achieved by using 2 magnets each side, one above the coil and one below. This one experiment has given me much enthusiasm to continue .

jeanna · « **Reply #784 on:** December 28, 2007, 07:35:34 PM »

Quote from: neptune on December 28, 2007, 04:52:37 PM

it has occurred to me that although walt`s results are impressive, the odds against him having achieved the optimum magnetic field in the right place are very small. therefore more experiments are needed here. One possibility is to use the magnets from the magnetron of a microwave oven. These are toroid shaped, [circular with a hole]. What I shall try is to place one on each side of the copper frame above my coils. |One north pole up, and one south pole up. Then I shall reverse each magnet and compare results. I f anyone who has a converter with removable top piece beats me to it., that is OK by me A stronger field could be achieved by using 2 magnets each side, one above the coil and one below. This one experiment has given me much enthusiasm to continue .

These sound like good suggestions to me.
I won't have access to any welding equipment until the end of january and I am a beginner so it will take me longer. So, I just want to share another idea that I cannot try.

In the 60's and 70's Patrick Flanagan did many seminal experiments on the pyramid. In one of his conclusions, he says that the magnetic field is very important to the working of the pyramid. And he showed that by directing a magnetic field toward the pyramid perpendicular to any base in any orientation and getting the better results. He was not checking for electrical power but since this working model is here ready to tap the something I would love to see what happens if the a magnet is directed toward the pyramid FROM THE OUTSIDE.

Just another idea on my wish list. It will be a while before I can try it.

This is so exciting!!!

jeanna

Walter Hofmann · « **Reply #785 on:** December 28, 2007, 10:40:37 PM »

Hi all
at the end of my magnet tests, I did the following: I put verry powerfull magnets on to the frame with the magnet on top of the converter ( no change)
I put 8 powerfull magnets outside the pyramide frame ( no chnage)
the same without the magnet on the converter ( nothing)
then I took the whole converter outside the pyramide about 6 feet away and put magnets like above (no change ) but the converter allone worked like inside the pyramide frame, if I connect a seperated ground the voltage goes down.
this was the end of the magnet tests what I do. Oh I also tested with the magnets from magnetron one above , one below the converter inside the pyramide nothing not like with the rectangular magnets.
tomorrow if I got time I will test a few super caps as end capacitor, one with 1 farad, 2 with 70 farad paralell, to see if they would be charged.
greetings
walt

Quote from: jeanna on December 28, 2007, 07:35:34 PM

Quote from: neptune on December 28, 2007, 04:52:37 PM
it has occurred to me that although walt`s results are impressive, the odds against him having achieved the optimum magnetic field in the right place are very small. therefore more experiments are needed here. One possibility is to use the magnets from the magnetron of a microwave oven. These are toroid shaped, [circular with a hole]. What I shall try is to place one on each side of the copper frame above my coils. |One north pole up, and one south pole up. Then I shall reverse each magnet and compare results. I f anyone who has a converter with removable top piece beats me to it., that is OK by me A stronger field could be achieved by using 2 magnets each side, one above the coil and one below. This one experiment has given me much enthusiasm to continue .

These sound like good suggestions to me.
I won't have access to any welding equipment until the end of january and I am a beginner so it will take me longer. So, I just want to share another idea that I cannot try.

In the 60's and 70's Patrick Flanagan did many seminal experiments on the pyramid. In one of his conclusions, he says that the magnetic field is very important to the working of the pyramid. And he showed that by directing a magnetic field toward the pyramid perpendicular to any base in any orientation and getting the better results. He was not checking for electrical power but since this working model is here ready to tap the something I would love to see what happens if the a magnet is directed toward the pyramid FROM THE OUTSIDE.

Just another idea on my wish list. It will be a while before I can try it.

This is so exciting!!!

jeanna

jeanna · « **Reply #786 on:** December 29, 2007, 04:11:45 AM »

Thanks Walt

You do good work.

jeanna

spacetrax · « **Reply #787 on:** December 29, 2007, 07:47:29 AM »

Hi,
I still don?t believe that the magnet plays an important role in this setup. OK, the voltage rises, but this doesn?t mean that it will produce some amperage...
Walt, you should put a load on the output, and also connect the long 2-plate-capacitor before you can get some decent output, I guess...unless the long capacitor was also a kind of a trick, meant to hide the real principle.
The fact that the voltage sharply decreases when the pyramid is earthed is quite mind-boggling. Normally the earth should provide the pyramid with some free electrons, but in this case it seems to act like a deep throat

, swallowing all the energy the pyramid produces...
It?s a pitty that TT does not say anything anymore. Actually I believe now that he never wanted to disclose the principle.
BUT we can reinvent the wheel

Cheers,
Spacetrax

duff · « **Reply #788 on:** December 29, 2007, 04:25:03 PM »

Fri Dec 14, 2007 - Thomas states: "I found out, that there are some guys posting to my descriptions absolutely false details. This is not because they are stupid, this is because they want to prevent success."

It appears nobody has bothered to track down who he might be referring to and where you have been lead astray but YOU HAVE TAKEN A WRONG TURN.

skywatcher · « **Reply #789 on:** December 29, 2007, 08:15:43 PM »

I figured out a construction method for the capacitor without a need for soldering the copper plates.

I used 0.5 mm copper because i couldn't find 1 mm, and it's easier to cut.
Central screws are M4 nylon screws, contact screws are M3.

Pirate88179 · « **Reply #790 on:** December 29, 2007, 09:17:10 PM »

@ skywatcher:

Nice fabrication work there. Very impressive.

Bill

Tigrotto · « **Reply #791 on:** December 29, 2007, 09:33:46 PM »

Nice fabrication, yes, I agree, but it worths a slightly bit more than nothing!!!
We are here to make art, not science!!!
Tigrotto
P.S. About two months ago we started this "project". no results and I told you why! Everyone is free to go ahead !!! Even if in from of him it is a wall!
tigrotto

skywatcher · « **Reply #792 on:** December 29, 2007, 09:42:57 PM »

Quote from: Tigrotto on December 29, 2007, 09:33:46 PM

P.S. About two months ago we started this "project". no results and I told you why! Everyone is free to go ahead !!! Even if in from of him it is a wall!

You may be right, but when i have started a project, i will bring it to the end, regardless of positive or negative results.
Even negative results are results. And i want to see it with my own eyes.

I had already bought most of the material before TT vanished, so it would be sensless to throw it away without even trying it.

Only if the whole case would be a 100% hoax, experimenting would be completely senseless.
If this thing ever worked, then there is a chance of reproducing it, even if this chance is very low (in this point, i agree with you).

Walter Hofmann · « **Reply #793 on:** December 29, 2007, 10:05:10 PM »

nice work.
but there will be a probleme if this works as a cpacitor then the value would be different because the plate area counts.
greetings
walt

Quote from: skywatcher on December 29, 2007, 08:15:43 PM

I figured out a construction method for the capacitor without a need for soldering the copper plates.

I used 0.5 mm copper because i couldn't find 1 mm, and it's easier to cut.
Central screws are M4 nylon screws, contact screws are M3.

georgemay · « **Reply #794 on:** December 29, 2007, 10:06:49 PM »

Quote from: Tigrotto on December 29, 2007, 09:33:46 PM

no results and I told you why!
tigrotto

Hi Tigrotto,
I didn't have any positive results. Rather pyramid is sucking all the power from the setup, like it is connected backwards. Maybe you will have a suggestion how to rearrange it a bit so we could try some different ideas.

Thanks,
George

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