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neptune

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #570 on: December 14, 2007, 12:22:53 PM »
Tigrotto, welcome back. Walt, did you understand table saw experiment, and did you have time to try it? Anybody else notice that In TT s time schedule for building V12 he mentions capacitors, but not copper tube, or coils or graphite. Must be much simpler then?

georgemay

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #571 on: December 14, 2007, 12:28:58 PM »
Hi Walter,
Excellent job.   Have you covered the frame yet?

All,
I don't know if you remember my battery charging test.  On December 9 I put AA NiMH battery I found in my garage.  Initial test shows .045V then I used piece of duct tape and hang the battery inside the pyramid. Pyramid is covered but not grounded and I kept 4th wall closed as well.  I am about to quit the test as I need to put collector inside.
here are the results:
 
9-Dec   8:00am   0.45      
9-Dec   2:00pm   0.505      
10-Dec   6:00pm   0.538      
10-Dec   12:00am   0.543      
11-Dec   6:00am   0.546      
11-Dec   6:00pm   0.55   
12-Dec   6:00am   0.556      
12-Dec   6:00pm   0.559      
13-Dec   6:00am   0.563      
14-Dec   6:00am   0.567   

There are no significant changes but it clearly proves that something is going on inside.
So please,  keep building/testing and post some results!

George



georgemay

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #572 on: December 14, 2007, 12:29:38 PM »
Hi Walter,
Excellent job.   Have you covered the frame yet?

All,
I don't know if you remember my battery charging test. .....................


...for some unknown reason, the previous message was posted twice. to save the space I deleted the contents of the second one.
George

neptune

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #573 on: December 14, 2007, 12:53:20 PM »
georgemay, interesting results on the battery test. Not life changeing, but may be significant none the less.At some point, I will do similar tests with other cells, zinc- carbon, nicad, lead acid etc, and also electrolytic caps. It would be interesting to attach a metal plate to each and of the cell, a sort of cap, and see what results.I think Walter is very close to a big breakthrough when he gets his frame covered.

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #574 on: December 14, 2007, 06:11:52 PM »
Hi Walter,
Excellent job.   Have you covered the frame yet?

All,
I don't know if you remember my battery charging test.  On December 9 I put AA NiMH battery I found in my garage.  Initial test shows .045V then I used piece of duct tape and hang the battery inside the pyramid. Pyramid is covered but not grounded and I kept 4th wall closed as well.  I am about to quit the test as I need to put collector inside.
here are the results:
 
9-Dec   8:00am   0.45     
9-Dec   2:00pm   0.505     
10-Dec   6:00pm   0.538     
10-Dec   12:00am   0.543     
11-Dec   6:00am   0.546     
11-Dec   6:00pm   0.55   
12-Dec   6:00am   0.556     
12-Dec   6:00pm   0.559     
13-Dec   6:00am   0.563     
14-Dec   6:00am   0.567   

There are no significant changes but it clearly proves that something is going on inside.
So please,  keep building/testing and post some results!

George



@George
When you take the battery out of the pyramid, please hang it somewhere else with the same duct tape and measure it for another week.  (a kind of control measurement)  Would be interesting to see what happens to it.

@All
You may have already known this, but I just realized it.  Covering the pyramid with wallboard (containing gypsum) is very similar to the original pyramids where they finished the outside with limestone.  (gypsum and limestone are similar but not exact) Just starting to make the connection.

Nut
« Last Edit: December 14, 2007, 06:33:03 PM by Nutcracker »

Pegasus

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #575 on: December 14, 2007, 06:59:54 PM »
Hello people...
Anyone here has tryed to put the wet sandquartz into the center of the pyramid?.I have repeated the experiment...and it works again.
I'm trying to get a digital multimeter to get precise measurements,because my analog one dont show the detailed numbers.Actually  with wet sand and graphite electrodes, not exposed to the pyramid,dont show voltage reading on the instrument.If I do the same measurements with the wet sand exposed with the center of the pyramid,I got voltage reading.The voltage augments if I remove the graphite electrodes,and immerse the probes directly in the wet sand!.I want to get some pics of this stuff to show here.I used a little old  pyramid made of aluminium pipes.The sand was wetted with tapwater (it is conductive...) Time exposition 24 hours.
The "battery" gets very fast polarization but seems to recharge leaving it alone for some minutes.What happening?.I dont expected tys type of result with aluminium;it was just for a simple experiment......

Coming soon....

Regards,
Cyrano.

vipond50

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #576 on: December 14, 2007, 08:53:13 PM »
@ Neptune

Is the V 12 doc or information on this site?
Maybe it could be posted to the Yahoo group files section for reference. I would do it myself,but do not have the complete doc.

@ Dr. Tigrotto & Group - Sorry about the the abusive wording, please accept my apology. I was out of place for posting that.
I would be curious to what branch of physic's U are working in. I minored in Astro Physic's while working my first Geology degree. Later went on to acquired a degree in Mechanical Engineering. Its funny that even with a bit of academia I still feel like a neophyte when it come to this subject
We need folks like u here to help work this tech.

Best regards
Bill

skywatcher

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #577 on: December 14, 2007, 08:56:54 PM »

I'm also busy at the moment building the frame, also without welding, but with screws.
I have also developed a good method to mount the side tubes with screws, although there are some odd angles. 

If someone is interested, i can post this in a separate thread (with photos).  :)
Skywatcher

I am also starting on my frame this weekend and the welding (if necessary) is going to be my biggest headache, so please post your pictures!


Here they are:  http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3753.0.html    ;D

neptune

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #578 on: December 14, 2007, 09:31:53 PM »
@Vipond50, As you know we have only part of the V12 info. I agree it should be posted on the Yahoo group site, but I personally do not have the necessary skills. Could anyone oblige please.
@all. sometimes on forums guys exchange heated words. I hope no one is offended, and anyway this is a sign of passion, which drives us in all we do. I may have said this before, but it culd be vital . Specification of V6 says the coils on the copper frame shuld have a Diameter of 25mm. This suggests some kind of former between the copper tube and coil. I have now cut all plates for the main capacitor. I am thinking of using plastic dielectric. Frame welding tomorrow hopefully.

georgemay

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #579 on: December 14, 2007, 10:12:45 PM »
@George
When you take the battery out of the pyramid, please hang it somewhere else with the same duct tape and measure it for another week.  (a kind of control measurement)  Would be interesting to see what happens to it.

@Nut,
Thanks for the suggestion.  I will certainly do that and report back in a few days with results.  Will try to hang it at the same direction (North + ; South -) but few meters away from pyramid.
George

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #580 on: December 14, 2007, 11:39:48 PM »
@Tigrotto

 >:( Please stop antagonizing Thomas on his own website!  >:(

He said he'd have V12 specs for us in a few days, so please at least wait until they arrive before pushing his buttons about V6, costs, etc.

There's a lot of us out here trying to be courteous, please don't mess up our opportunity!

tak

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #581 on: December 15, 2007, 01:20:59 AM »


 >:(Yeah! >:(

Walter Hofmann

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #582 on: December 15, 2007, 12:00:14 PM »
Hi cyrano,
something must be wrong at your setup because if I put wetsand ( what should not be in the pyramide setup) then you should see at least 0.4V measured graphite rod to copper tube because that works as galvanic cell. I also got 0.4 to 0.5V with dry sand and the electrode against the copper tube.
greetings
walt

Hello people...
Anyone here has tryed to put the wet sandquartz into the center of the pyramid?.I have repeated the experiment...and it works again.
I'm trying to get a digital multimeter to get precise measurements,because my analog one dont show the detailed numbers.Actually  with wet sand and graphite electrodes, not exposed to the pyramid,dont show voltage reading on the instrument.If I do the same measurements with the wet sand exposed with the center of the pyramid,I got voltage reading.The voltage augments if I remove the graphite electrodes,and immerse the probes directly in the wet sand!.I want to get some pics of this stuff to show here.I used a little old  pyramid made of aluminium pipes.The sand was wetted with tapwater (it is conductive...) Time exposition 24 hours.
The "battery" gets very fast polarization but seems to recharge leaving it alone for some minutes.What happening?.I dont expected tys type of result with aluminium;it was just for a simple experiment......

Coming soon....

Regards,
Cyrano.

neptune

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #583 on: December 15, 2007, 12:18:24 PM »
Hi Walt. I think that Cyrano is measuring the voltage between 2 graphite rods in a vessel of sand,and I am not sure that copper is mentioned, or involved. If this is correct, this is a different ball game, and as I understand it a galvanic cell needs 2 differerent substances to act as electrodes. so if the experiment of Cyrano[pegassus] is repeatable, with voltage inside pyramid but not outside, then, without doubt, we have actual proof of something weird and measurable happening inside the pyramid.

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #584 on: December 15, 2007, 12:21:04 PM »
I've been following this thread very closely and it's very impressive to read that ALL of you are getting 25% the power-out, one gets by sticking a copper pipe into the earth.  Maybe you just need to increase the size of your Pyramid's by four x4.

- Schpankme