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vipond50

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #555 on: December 13, 2007, 08:01:20 PM »
Good Point Pontitex
WTF?
You just said it better than I did
Hmmmm.... Was here and did not say Sh*t ?

Could say more, but what's the point.

B.

helmut

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #556 on: December 13, 2007, 08:06:23 PM »
Hi all,

Thomas is back with great news!!!

http://trawoeger-pyramide.info/


there is also a new yahoo group for the TTP project.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pyramide-project


cheers

atlantex

At least : good news

Otherwhise he discribes in his Guestbook a story ,sounds like Nightmare.
That he retourns is a proof,that he is a brave Guy.
 With luck all Replikatioins will give out some current till Xmas.
helmut

neptune

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #557 on: December 13, 2007, 08:07:35 PM »
Magpower, I notice there is a big difference between the resistance between short graphite rod to copper tube, and long rod to tube. This suggests to me a possible break in the short rod. Others have had this problem without realising it.

duff

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #558 on: December 13, 2007, 08:37:34 PM »

I am closing the gap - frame together, painted and gypsum going on now.

Last night I cut my copper tubing tomorrow I will start on my capacitors.


Thomas is inspiring and is setting the mark high for us to live up to...


I only wish I knew the full history of this device. It's hard to make intelligent construction decisions without it.


-Duff



magpower

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #559 on: December 13, 2007, 09:03:11 PM »
Magpower, I notice there is a big difference between the resistance between short graphite rod to copper tube, and long rod to tube. This suggests to me a possible break in the short rod. Others have had this problem without realising it.

Each of my rods 90mm and 95mm measured approx 20 ohms, end to end, carefull not to break. And don't touch either. Now you connect 1 wire to each end and insert into tube, put sand around rod to hold in place, don't move it or will break. Now with ohm meter with one on tube and the other on wire you should have 0 ohms, or open circuit. I will post a pic later. But this is how I see it and no expert, just trying to steer the ship.

Once in tube its really hard to know if its broke, I did break 2 rods already,this step is tricky, the rest we see.


magpower

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #560 on: December 13, 2007, 09:03:25 PM »
Magpower, I notice there is a big difference between the resistance between short graphite rod to copper tube, and long rod to tube. This suggests to me a possible break in the short rod. Others have had this problem without realising it.

Each of my rods 90mm and 95mm measured approx 20 ohms, end to end, carefull not to break. And don't touch either. Now you connect 1 wire to each end and insert into tube, put sand around rod to hold in place, don't move it or will break. Now with ohm meter with one on tube and the other on wire you should have 0 ohms, or open circuit. I will post a pic later. But this is how I see it and no expert, just trying to steer the ship.

Once in tube its really hard to know if its broke, I did break 2 rods already,this step is tricky, the rest we see.


Tigrotto

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #561 on: December 13, 2007, 09:34:23 PM »
@ Pontifex,
Thankss for your constructive critics about me !
The reason why I was" a little bit strange" was this:
1. I understood that something is missing from v6 description, so that, there was not use to waste time to go ahead trying to reinvent Thomas's invention. Maybe i'm, wrong so that,
2. Should Thomas said all about V6, that means however something is going wrong, none of us managing to obtain more than...0.5V!!! Again, there are terms subjected to various interpretation, proving that the V6 description wasn't exhaustive.
These are true facts , not my interpretation!
This is why I preffered  to " wait and see" instead of complicate again the things!!!!
I told you about 1 month ago , like many of us, I'm an engineer, a physicist Dr. and i understood what it could be understandable; beyond this, the simple assumptions are not science, but fantasy!
Again, this is why I was silent!
Hope this helps ( at least for those to whom it may be of concern!)
Tigrotto

skywatcher

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #562 on: December 13, 2007, 10:28:39 PM »
I'll certainly try it just dont have pyramide yet, still buidling it (doing base with screws need it flexible)

I'm also busy at the moment building the frame, also without welding, but with screws.
I have also developed a good method to mount the side tubes with screws, although there are some odd angles. 

If someone is interested, i can post this in a separate thread (with photos).  :)

Hope to finish the frame at the weekend, then i will start making the other parts.

IndianaBoys

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #563 on: December 14, 2007, 04:12:38 AM »
If you have a PetCo in your area, they have a very fine quartz desert sand that they sell in 5 and 10 pound bags.

They use it in their reptile cages:

http://www.petco.com/product/4957/Zoo-Med-Repti-Sand.aspx

Best regards,

IndianaBoys


Look what I just bought! LOL...

5 lbs for $10... PURE quartz sand, no additives, and very fine...

Thanks for the heads up IndianaBoys.

Tao,

Glad you found it useful.

You might also consider experimenting with this product:

     Borosilicate Ceramic

Replace the fine quartz sand in the copper pipes with the borosilicate ceramic.

Also can be added to paint and create a coating that should really amp up the available power.

Apply this to the inside of your pyramid (drywall).

     http://www.heatshield-r20.com/howitworks.html

Best regards,

IndianaBoys

atlantex

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #564 on: December 14, 2007, 09:24:00 AM »
Hello,

Quote
Hi folks,

just to remember, here is the yahoo group for Thomas's and our project.

A lot of people are already registered and I think it's good to have an alternative, just in the case that overunity.com is unreachable, like the last days.


http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pyramide-project


@Thomas, you can have everytime the whole control over these group, no problem.

sky


There are also a new statement from Thomas.


atlantex

passion1

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #565 on: December 14, 2007, 10:00:03 AM »

I'm also busy at the moment building the frame, also without welding, but with screws.
I have also developed a good method to mount the side tubes with screws, although there are some odd angles. 

If someone is interested, i can post this in a separate thread (with photos).  :)
Skywatcher

I am also starting on my frame this weekend and the welding (if necessary) is going to be my biggest headache, so please post your pictures!

Walter Hofmann

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #566 on: December 14, 2007, 11:40:49 AM »
hI ALL,
i DID ANOTHER QUICK TEST I had one broken rod and had not replaced it but I set the open U-frame with one rod in , inside the pyramide and connected the DVM and watch it the DVM started with 0.05V but run up pretty fast to 0.43V. I also did the same outside the frame nothing just 0.05V no fluctuation even after 1 hour not more. I believe it shows that without any load in this case it was the DVM there is no voltage. I will try the same setup with my special build tester what has switched resistors of different values and a DVM for voltage and also a amp meter just to see if anythings changes with different load and if there is any current at all.
I also was wondering whats happen with the voltage it was just 0.23V and then I reliesed that I had a couple pieces of aluminum laminated styrofoam insulation boards laying inside the pyramide frame and as I took them out the voltage did go up and fluctuated again. I expirienced a change in voltage just by going in to adjust the U_frame with my hand.
greetings
walt

vipond50

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #567 on: December 14, 2007, 11:52:06 AM »
Walter
In my brief tests on my first unit I also noticed what you are noting. I also saw a increase in E when i touch the frame of the pyramid even though it was earth grounded. I figured that it must have been static charge.
BTW what kind of lights do u have in your work area? This could be a contribution to the charge that U are noting.

Thanks for posting your data and observations

Regards
Bill

Walter Hofmann

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #568 on: December 14, 2007, 11:56:07 AM »
Bill,
I have flouresence light but they are off all the time if I test and my pyramide frame is not grounded to avoid any influence from the main power. I also have it standing right now in a metal building and I will bring it outside on the week end to see whats happen there if there is any changes at all and also grounding it with a totally seperate grounding rod 8 feet.
greeitngs
walt

Walter
In my brief tests on my first unit I also noticed what you are noting. I also saw a increase in E when i touch the frame of the pyramid even though it was earth grounded. I figured that it must have been static charge.
BTW what kind of lights do u have in your work area? This could be a contribution to the charge that U are noting.

Thanks for posting your data and observations

Regards
Bill

vipond50

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #569 on: December 14, 2007, 12:00:15 PM »
Hi Walter
Excellent, look forward to your results of the outdoor tests.
Tell Then.
Thanks
Bill