Author Topic: First electrical power output from a Pyramid (Read 550625 times)

duff · « **Reply #450 on:** December 10, 2007, 08:14:23 PM »

Quote from: vipond50 on December 10, 2007, 08:01:43 PM

Hello Duff
I do not understand your Q What do u mean??
Have any of u had a problem accessing the Overunity site???
Made it this time, but fought like hell 10 minutes ago
Keep getting this message
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value: 100000)"
What does this mean ?
Thanks Bill

Looks like stefan is have sql database probems.

-Duff

skywatcher · « **Reply #451 on:** December 10, 2007, 08:21:59 PM »

Quote from: duff on December 10, 2007, 05:07:14 PM

If you had you & your family's life threatened how would your react?

Kill him, before he could kill me.

Topic: showing and discussing results:
I don't understand why people are not willing to show and discuss their results. It's the only way to improve the construction, and i think this was also the reason for Thomas to share his plans. He can not do all testing and experimenting himself, because this would be very time- and money-consuming. If there are a number of people everyone could work on different aspects. If i read claims that 'someone has successfully replicated' the pyramid but wants to remain in the underground, this gives me a bad smell: Not only because this person acts in this way, but also because that's no proof of anything, and i even don't know if this person actually exists, or if someone only has made up this story for whatever reason. If i see photos of the working thing this is also not really a proof, but at least it would require more effort to fake it.

If i see this from several persons, it would become even more unlikely that it could be a fake...

Today i buyed some material and in the next days i will construct the frame structure. I will use the usual 20x20 mm steel pipes, but i will not weld them together, but connect them by screws and joints made of steel plates (angles). This will give me the flexibility to change the construction (for optimization) or to destruct it easily if it won't work. I will make photos of every construction step for documentation purposes.

vipond50 · « **Reply #452 on:** December 10, 2007, 09:38:45 PM »

Yes, but that was in a different life, Ok
I no longer work with that tech.

Bill

vipond50 · « **Reply #453 on:** December 10, 2007, 09:42:59 PM »

Yes, I NO longer work with that tech. If this is what happen to Thomas
then I totally understand, But I at least had a friend post my plans.
Funny thing is people can not follow directions, even though they had plans.
Bill

skywatcher · « **Reply #454 on:** December 10, 2007, 10:00:17 PM »

neptune · « **Reply #455 on:** December 10, 2007, 10:11:26 PM »

As i have said before, following plans is not as easy as some people assume. Look at the pages and pages of debate over the plans for a simple pyramid frame on Thomas web site. Even the simplest sentence is capable of being interpreted several ways.How else do lawyers make a living?
Judging by reports, we may have several V6 models completed by Christmas. What I really hope is that the guys who complete and do not get it working, publish their results, or lack of them , so that we can all help them, and suggest ideas. If nothing else we can make a list of modifications that don't work.There is nothing worse than a project that ends in mystery. Imagine a world where people were incapable of lying...

MT · « **Reply #456 on:** December 10, 2007, 10:13:34 PM »

Quote from: vipond50 on December 10, 2007, 08:01:43 PM

Made it this time, but fought like hell 10 minutes ago
Keep getting this message
"User 'hartiberlin1' has exceeded the 'max_questions' resource (current
value: 100000)"
What does this mean ?

DoS attack? Had same problem in the morning. Now it is ok.
MT

skywatcher · « **Reply #457 on:** December 10, 2007, 10:28:38 PM »

Quote from: neptune on December 10, 2007, 10:11:26 PM

What I really hope is that the guys who complete and do not get it working, publish their results, or lack of them

If it's not working, this is also a result.

In this case, there are three possibilities:

a) it was not built correctly
b) it was built correctly, but other factors (e.g. the environment/surroundings of the pyramid) prevent any functionality
c) the whole project is a fake, and can never and nowhere be a success

In cases a) and b) there is a good chance to fix it by comparing results.

Walter Hofmann · « **Reply #458 on:** December 10, 2007, 10:41:13 PM »

what is my probleme with the most reports is that some people are afraid to tell the real results because they dont wana be attacked the other side is that others have a ego probleme and wana be better then the rest.
any how what I am wondering is if there is allready a seperate group who did get via PM the plans because they dont show up here anymore ( ovidio and some others)
I does not matter to me but it is just strange.
greetings
walt

Quote from: skywatcher on December 10, 2007, 10:28:38 PM

Quote from: neptune on December 10, 2007, 10:11:26 PM
What I really hope is that the guys who complete and do not get it working, publish their results, or lack of them

If it's not working, this is also a result.

In this case, there are three possibilities:

a) it was not built correctly
b) it was built correctly, but other factors (e.g. the environment/surroundings of the pyramid) prevent any functionality
c) the whole project is a fake, and can never and nowhere be a success

In cases a) and b) there is a good chance to fix it by comparing results.

MT · « **Reply #459 on:** December 10, 2007, 10:42:33 PM »

Learned yesterday: for people who gonna use graphite sticks from pencils you do not have to splinter wood to get it out, just burn wood above flame, graphite stays

Concerning pyramide I have so far base and 2 edges. Cutting iron aint cutting butter but it is doable and moreover fun. Still have a bit shaky hands from it. Also managed to get the rest of material (copper tubing, Ts and turns) except sand. Rigips 12,5 mm was to my big surprise at shop!

Just got idea to build galvanic cell from piece of copper tube stick from pecil and some sand + salt water how much Volts it would give. It would be interesting to learn about these things as it plays some role seems in device. But I wont build it today thats for sure.

good night to everybody,
MT

skywatcher · « **Reply #460 on:** December 10, 2007, 10:55:47 PM »

Quote from: Walter Hofmann on December 10, 2007, 10:41:13 PM

any how what I am wondering is if there is allready a seperate group who did get via PM the plans because they dont show up here anymore ( ovidio and some others)
I does not matter to me but it is just strange.

We don't know... but if the V12 plans have the same amount of detail as the V6 plans we have, then it's not sure they will succeed without help of the community. Except, when they are getting continuous support from Thomas. But i don't think he is doing this.

Quote from: MT on December 10, 2007, 10:42:33 PM

Just got idea to build galvanic cell from piece of copper tube stick from pecil and some sand + salt water how much Volts it would give. It would be interesting to learn about these things as it plays some role seems in device.

As soon i have completed the whole setup, i will measure the voltage between the coal sticks and the copper before the converter will be put inside the pyramid, to see if the voltage increases after putting it inside the pyramid. Even if it increases only some mV (or some percent) this would be a sign that something is going on.

magpower · « **Reply #461 on:** December 10, 2007, 10:56:41 PM »

Just an update I have mine built with all sides now, tonight will find center and start the inside job. I just bought the pencils and its a job to take the wood off, thats a good help, MT burn it off, thanks! My large 12 by 12 copper sheet should be here this week. To find center I was thinking of making a small hole in center of plates then using a laser pointer, to shoot through the hole, might be better than rods, we see.

With Sand I got some play sand as a sample, don't know if this is good or not, but free is free. I really hope a test before xmas and the inside should go faster.

wayne

Localjoe · « **Reply #462 on:** December 10, 2007, 11:04:41 PM »

Copper and graphite yeilded our best results in the earth battery thread, i would be interested to see what quarts sand in a mixing bowl with some salt water and these two electrodes put out.

georgemay · « **Reply #463 on:** December 10, 2007, 11:23:26 PM »

The copper tubes are not connected to anything. This is not a standard cell.
george

hansvonlieven · « **Reply #464 on:** December 10, 2007, 11:38:17 PM »

Quote from: MT on December 10, 2007, 10:13:34 PM

Quote from: vipond50 on December 10, 2007, 08:01:43 PM
Made it this time, but fought like hell 10 minutes ago
Keep getting this message
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value: 100000)"
What does this mean ?

DoS attack? Had same problem in the morning. Now it is ok.
MT

These problems started occurring when Stefan changed servers. They started happening long before this thread was being initiated.

Hans von Lieven

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