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CTG Labs

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #375 on: December 08, 2007, 06:04:29 PM »
Neptune,

Anyone who knows me on here knows I do not sit on my ass doing nothing and that I have spent over 10 years actively building and testing devices, not sitting in an arm chair.

If we get all the details and people are able to construct a working device I will happily eat my words...


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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #376 on: December 08, 2007, 06:09:12 PM »
The device has NOTHING to work what my school physics or EE is explicable say to me.

I agree. In the context of conventional physics, the device is completely nonsense.
If it really would work, physicists would really have problems to explain why.  ;)

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The idea behind school physics is that you get at least a glance from the most
primitive physical principles - and they show very straightforward experiments.
Even an electrical engineer is "tuned" to use available parts within their limits...

I think the problem is that if somebody sees a wound up wire - he thinks its a coil -
having a coil there makes him looking for a capacitor - then he can use the nice
formulas and is crazy as hell that he is able to calculate a frequency.

(a wound up wire can be a capacitor, an antenna, a delay line, a resistor,
a fuse, just mechanical (to avoid cables hanging around)...) ...(...)....is a wound up wire.
Or if you look on how its built - you have 2 coils and a capacitor in a very
compressed setup - because they are not separated nor shielded - you have
to expect that they work as one piece. you cannot assume that these are indiviual
parts....

Well, according to Thomas - you have the complete plans, you know every
material, every dimension.
You can calculate all stray and parasitic capacities, you can start to think
how the stuff would react to static and em fields of any direction ...

If you would see this setup in a context of very high frequency - some GHz -
everything makes a lot of sense. (even the gypsum plates).

Ok - there are no parts with printed electrical values on it ;-)  but this doesn?t
mean that it doesn?t operate in an electrical context.

If you would come as alien from another solar system - the way how we generate
rotational energy from 4-stroke engines  would be a very crazy thing ...
 
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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #377 on: December 08, 2007, 06:10:05 PM »
If we get all the details and people are able to construct a working device I will happily eat my words...

Same for me.  But i'm realistic, and such things are triggering my 'bullshit alarm'.   :(

Nevertheless i'm still hoping for positive results. People who already have invested much work into this project should continue, so that we will see if it's really working. I had not yet started working on it (only bought some parts and made some drawings) so i have decided to freeeze it until i see some positive developments.

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #378 on: December 08, 2007, 06:17:58 PM »
I think the problem is that if somebody sees a wound up wire - he thinks its a coil -
having a coil there makes him looking for a capacitor - then he can use the nice
formulas and is crazy as hell that he is able to calculate a frequency.

You are right. The whole thing should not be viewed in the context of conventional physics or electrical engineering.

I also don't think that the 'pyramid energy' (if there really is one) has anything to do with conventional EM fields.
If this would be the case, they could be easily measured with conventional equipment.

I have made some experiments with pyramids some time ago, and i did not see any unexplainable effects, and i also could not measure any unexplainable EM fields inside or outside of the pyramid. I don't rule out the existence of 'pyramid energy' but i think if it exists, it's something completely different, and not EM fields of any frequency.

CTG Labs

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #379 on: December 08, 2007, 06:21:51 PM »
I did an experiment about 7 years ago (repeated several times) where I had a copper wire frame pyramid and a paper pyramid.

I took 3 leaves from the same branch from a plant outside and placed one in each pyramd and a 3rd as a control.

I waited for them to dryout and die.  The control leaf rolled up, went brown and crumbled, the one under the paper pyramid, did not go crumbly and the one under the copper pyramid stayed greened and did not roll up.

In the book shape power it mentions how a group of engineers using extremely sensitive gauss meters have been able to detect a magnetic field around pyramids (made from any material) which gets stronger the better it is aligned with the earths magnetic field.


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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #380 on: December 08, 2007, 06:37:16 PM »
We should all wait and see what happens tomorrow. Patience is required here.

pese

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #381 on: December 08, 2007, 07:08:35 PM »
I could easily say my website was hacked and replace the page with a message saying "this domain will stay closed" and who would know any different? 

D.

if you ca say . IT MUST NOT BE UNTRUE !

Even if it need time , to clear up with his lawer , when the ist angry from surpressing.

We have an "start-pont" to dou aur own exeriences now. . Devices oroeundt ths "basic-knowledge"
WILL WORK.  Ask not : why?.
Pese

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #382 on: December 08, 2007, 07:12:25 PM »
I could easily say my website was hacked and replace the page with a message saying "this domain will stay closed" and who would know any different? 

D.

if you ca say . IT MUST NIT BE UNTRUE !

Even if it need time , to clear up with his lawer , when the ist angry from surpressing.

We have an "start-pont" to dou aur own exeriences now. . Devices oroeundt ths "basic-knowledge"
WILL WORK.  Ask not : why?.
Pese


Pardon?

pese

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #383 on: December 08, 2007, 07:16:02 PM »
@ CLG.

No .. is ok .
Any can say what the mean an think - also change his mind , from time to time. We are LEARNING ALL ....
GP

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #384 on: December 08, 2007, 07:34:25 PM »
Hi to all,

I'm here as well, nice to see you waiting really I do hope that this is the right time.

Ciao

ROBERTO

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #385 on: December 08, 2007, 07:46:48 PM »
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I also don't think that the 'pyramid energy' (if there really is one) has anything to do with conventional EM fields.
If this would be the case, they could be easily measured with conventional equipment.

Skywatcher,
 Have you seen this patent?
http://www.rexresearch.com/grandics/grandics.htm
I hope you can call an oscilloscope as conventional equipment :)

As to releasing info about V12 I guess we have to leave it to Thomas, as I believe it is not an easy decision on his part.  I am happy enough that I have a pyramid to work with.  It is a lot of work ahead me but it is fun.  Those who started the project I strongly encourage you to continue testing even without v12 info.  Who knows we may come up with better pyramid?  :P
George

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #386 on: December 08, 2007, 08:43:05 PM »
To CTG Labs. Did not mean to offend. What I meant was let us encourage those who are working on this,and let us not condemn it without a fair trial.Sorry....Neptune

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #387 on: December 08, 2007, 09:12:34 PM »
Hello Group
After reading the new postings i had a Q come to mind.
How many in the group have actually constructed a pyramid, with the converter?

If a few, Do any of u have any data to share, I posted what i have seen so far, Galvanic battery, even though, i see fluctuations to the readings when i relocate the converter or pyramid or both in relation to each other, I see a sweet spot "if u will "
The meter reading fluctuations are on the AC & DC side. The readings are in mV's, but still a reading?
So why am I seeing fluctuations in the readings by just rotating the Z axis?
Any others see this?
Bill

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #388 on: December 08, 2007, 09:41:45 PM »
This post is in reply to those who sent me private messages. Please in future if you have questions for me post here. Thanks to tinu,Adrianu,Pese, Lofty, and alespr. I have not yet completed the V6 pyramid I am working on. Tinu, dont give up yet, we need guys like you. I expect you tried all the things I suggested the other day. New things to try will emerge daily on here, why not try outside, or at another house? If all else fails, set it aside for a while. Hopefully Thomas will be back.Lofty, Thomas`s Web site is closed at present.Ales pr, most of your questions and more would be answered by the diagram drawn byAcerzw, which I have, but don't have the skills to send it to you.Does anyone have a link for this? I believe the wire for the coils was 3mm[one wound clockwise and one anticlockwise.] 9 turns on each side. SALT water level determined by lower hole. Do not block holes.The3mm diameter graphite rods touch the sand. Fill entire tube structure with sand. The central capacitor has 5 pos plates and 5 neg. with air spacing.However I plan to use a plastic dielectric. I am NOT the expert. Just trying to help. Best to post future questions here. There are better brains here than mine. Happy experimenting everyone.

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #389 on: December 08, 2007, 10:11:39 PM »
.Does anyone have a link for this? I believe the wire for the coils was 3mm[one wound clockwise and one anticlockwise.] 9 turns on each side. SALT water level determined by lower hole. Do not block holes.The3mm diameter graphite rods touch the sand. Fill entire tube structure with sand. The central capacitor has 5 pos plates and 5 neg. with air spacing.However I plan to use a plastic dielectric. I am NOT the expert. Just trying to help. Best to post future questions here. There are better brains here than mine. Happy experimenting everyone.

One Menber , have the totally forum saved on his hard-disk.
I hope he will copy some picts to OU , if TT cant or will not
more open his forum) We habe to thank him.

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@Neptun
dont forget, gipsum (rigips)  (wall and plate). TT. say it is important.

Pese