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Koen1

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #270 on: December 03, 2007, 04:23:17 PM »
Sorry pese, but I do need to ask you this question:

If it is true what Tigrotto says, that
"Thomas said : ALL the 8 "arms "  of pyramid have to be THE SAME LENGTH...
He added : also the base have to be a perfect square...",

then that means there is a very strict angle for the pyramids apex.

That does not accord with your statement that
"ONLKY thae QUARE ist definitly to give attention !!
Any change in the angel of the top have NOTHING to to with the power."

So do you mean to say that what Tigrotto said is incorrect?
That it does not matter how long the triangular sides are and at what angle they meet at the apex,
as long as you make sure the base is a perfect square?

So we could in fact make one that is very high and slim, like 30cmx30cm base and 200cm high?

and please don't get upset, I'm only asking... :)

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #271 on: December 03, 2007, 04:30:50 PM »
@ Gustav,
Here are the Thomas's words , 100% :

Only 2 factors are important:
1. The ground shape of the pyramid must be absolutely square.
2.The length of the pyramid upper corner rods must be the same as the base quadrat square rod lengths. So all frame rods are 100 cm long !

No comments! ( At least, no comments from my side!)
No need also to disturb again Thomas with these questions!
Tigrotto

neptune

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #272 on: December 03, 2007, 07:28:42 PM »
Pay attention . this is very important. Thomas said, that it is the inside surface of the plasterboard[coating] that has the important dimensions. Therefore, the upright [corner]rods are 1000mm long if measured from the floor. If these rods sit on top of the base frame, they need to be less than 1000mm. so, make the frame so that if you could measure the corner joint, inside the pyramid, between two adjacent sides, it would be exactly 1000mm.I have posted here because Thomas site is for serious constructors only. It is a shame that hurricane has not reappeared yet, but Thomas has verified that he is genuine[not fake] I have bought my steel, but no time for welding till weekend.My plan is to use all 30x30x3mm angle iron.We can all think of 1000 questions that can not be answered until we have working pyramids. I hope to build a v6, and change it to a V12 when info becomes available.The V6 circuit is very puzzling when viewed by someone educated in conventional electronics. It would seem to have a very high internal resistance. According to Hurricans published results, he gets about3/4 amp at 6volts. That suggests a load of about 8 ohms. There is no info about the nature of the load. Is it purely resistive? any inductance or capacitance? Still if the output is DC I guess it does not matter.I am in the UK in Lincolnshire. Are there any other constructors in my area?

pese

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #273 on: December 04, 2007, 08:41:21 PM »
@koen1

You can only say , WHAT OU KNOW
You cant never SAY that YOU NOT KNOW
You can NEVER SA that that wat i KNOW is WRONG
- because do have not the knowledge and not READ al that
Trawoeger have written  in Forum or mailed with me.

FORGET IT.
Is no Problem to take 1meter or take the Dimension from GIZEH
or any other Phra,mide in THIS WORLD.

Only the Flat must by an rigt square .

It make not "sense" to ask , if all people know this better .

If you look for an "kindergarden" this is not the right place.


IT IS TRUE that T.T. say in this forum take all ARMS 1 meter long

So all folks build on the same ITEM .
So he can better explay and leading you to an working
device . That is the only reason, to say NOW 1 Meter !

If you will have right , no problem , hold it , so long as you want it

Pese

Koen1

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #274 on: December 05, 2007, 12:02:02 PM »
@koen1

You can only say , WHAT OU KNOW
You cant never SAY that YOU NOT KNOW
Oh, but it is very easy to say THAT you don't know. It's stating exactly WHAT you do not know that is difficult ;)


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You can NEVER SA that that wat i KNOW is WRONG
- because do have not the knowledge and not READ al that
Trawoeger have written  in Forum or mailed with me.
I fear you misunderstand my point.
I am not trying to tell you you are wrong at all.
I am asking you what you think about the subject, because you and Tigrotto appeared to be saying contradictory things.
And I am of course asking you because you have made it very clear that you apparently have been following this for years now,
and therefore know more about it than me. Why are you turning that around and BLAMING me for not knowing?
If someone asks you where London is, do you blame them for asking and not knowing, or do you tell them where it is? ;)

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FORGET IT.
Forget WHAT exactly?
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Is no Problem to take 1meter or take the Dimension from GIZEH
or any other Phra,mide in THIS WORLD.
Well if that is the case then it shouldn't be a problem to use any dimensions as long at it is still a pyramid of some kind...right?
So whether or not a pyramid actually already exists in this world with those same dimensions (I mean height, length, width, not time and space)
doesn't really matter then, does it?
Oh, and again, I am ASKING, not telling you.

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Only the Flat must by an rigt square .

It make not "sense" to ask , if all people know this better .
It also makes not sense speak as Yoda to do. Better people will understand this not. ;) Sorry for the joke. :)
Do you mean to say that it is no use to ask people if they know if it works?
Why not? If there is any sort of theory behind it, or if mr Trawoeger has ever mentioned anything about the need for
a certain angle at the top or the length of the arms not being important during those years that I have not read about,
then obviously it DOES make sense to ask people who have been following mr Trawoegers work for longer...

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If you look for an "kindergarden" this is not the right place.
No, indeed this is not a kindergarten, this is a forum.
Which means that we discuss things here.
If you are unwilling to discuss things, then why post on the forum?
If you're looking for someone to insult, then I must disappoint you. Your insult is simply not clear enough to be insulting.
If it is not meant as an insult, then I am completely missing the point you are trying to make here.


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IT IS TRUE that T.T. say in this forum take all ARMS 1 meter long

So all folks build on the same ITEM .
So he can better explay and leading you to an working
device . That is the only reason, to say NOW 1 Meter !
Ah, well at least this part is clear. :)
So it does NOT matter what length the arms are, as long as the sides of the base square are all equal,
but to make it easier to compare the replicated versions built by the others,
mr Trawoeger has decided to use 1 meter sides everywhere, so that everyone build the same 1 meter pyramid.
Thank you for clearing that up.
So we CAN in fact build a pyramid with a base of 1x1m and a height of let's say 2m, if we wanted to.


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If you will have right , no problem , hold it , so long as you want it
Pardon?
Oh you mean to say "if it works, no problem, make it as high as you want to"?
Ok then.
Well thanks for clearing this up.
You see, this is why I asked you and not Tigrotto. Clearly Tigrotto has followed the recent building instructions,
but thinks that the dimensions have to be exact on all points, whereas you have been following it for a longer time
and know that some of the dimensions, like the square base, are crucial, but others like the height are not.

pese

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #275 on: December 05, 2007, 01:53:26 PM »
Sorry Koen, i excuses me, some people talk only to talk, I try to avoid for myself. So it makes no difference, whether Gizeh or Cheops. It must hang together with the centre point with every corner "somewhere else" lies. Certainly this will test everybody which has with 9 watts not enough and will experiment.
Greeting Pese.

Think on it "Gipsum" (that was new for me)

Trigrotto , will not say anything against. He do this work , and can say, that what he know .

if i belive to know.. , i ca sepkulate and say this. all others (i hope) is right.

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Trawoeger's Pyramid Power webpage hacked again, database deleted!
« Reply #276 on: December 05, 2007, 02:01:53 PM »
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Server Script started on Nov. 26. 2007 0 mirrors watching........  All Mirrors infected... SQL Database deleted by * ADMIRAL BLACK :-)*

Mirror system gives  red alert!

vipond50

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #277 on: December 05, 2007, 02:08:58 PM »
Yeah, What happened to the site????? I did receive a message PESE
Who ever the heck he is?????
Bill

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #278 on: December 05, 2007, 04:22:47 PM »
THOMAS SHOULD PUBLISH NOW ALL TECHNICAL DETAILS OF V12  and not wait until Christmas, if he wants to do so, because somebody is obviously trying to prevent him from disclosing everything. His forum was obviously hacked, the bad guys are trying to stop the disclosure.

Yeah, What happened to the site????? I did receive a message PESE
Who ever the heck he is?????
Bill

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #279 on: December 05, 2007, 05:02:32 PM »
Hello outside there:
Well, our nice Servers and mirrors get bombed totally... Everything is damaged, all SQL?s are deleted, and if we take the backups to the Servers, everything is deleted in less than 30 seconds... (I am that sad, because you can?t see my tears in the eyes)

Well, we have to search for a better way to go ahead. Maybe we can go online this evening....
ng, Tom

(It seems to become "kindergarden" still on this site! Mr. KOEN, and Mr. PESE!)

vipond50

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #280 on: December 05, 2007, 05:10:25 PM »
Thank You Thomas
Very sorry to here of this prob and i am to sad of here this development. Hope to here better news soon  :'(
Thanks
Bill

tao

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #281 on: December 05, 2007, 06:32:50 PM »
Hello outside there:
Well, our nice Servers and mirrors get bombed totally... Everything is damaged, all SQL?s are deleted, and if we take the backups to the Servers, everything is deleted in less than 30 seconds... (I am that sad, because you can?t see my tears in the eyes)

Well, we have to search for a better way to go ahead. Maybe we can go online this evening....
ng, Tom

(It seems to become "kindergarden" still on this site! Mr. KOEN, and Mr. PESE!)


Thomas,

Your faithful mod here!

That is horrible what has happened to the site, but it only confirms what we know about certain people that don't want information to reach the masses.

It seems you have set the date Thomas, December 9th!

It is a shame it couldn't be done the slower way and on the forum, but this is probably the best idea now, because the forum has already been hacked twice now, by powerful forces.

tao

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #282 on: December 05, 2007, 06:39:31 PM »
Where is my last post? (Mr. Stefan)  :o
Well I can do it twice:
Look to www.trawoeger-pyramide.info, and follow the small klickable hint on the Site:
Here you will get the Full V12 File    (74,2 MM-Zipped)
Good luck, and merry Christmas
Tom

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #283 on: December 05, 2007, 07:13:43 PM »
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The right guys will have access to these File, and i hope, you know, how to get in....
Hmmmm, maybe I am not one of the right guys......

1. Available on Sun 9th under username and password from the (hacked) forum?
2. Available now for the people who know the right pass ?

Sorry Thomas, I am puzzled about this....

Heads up Thomas, I feel very sorry about the recent development but you are still alive.
Maybe Stefan can give us the opportunity to discuss things on his board?

Many thanks to you and greetings, Pontifex 

vipond50

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #284 on: December 05, 2007, 07:27:53 PM »
Thanks Thomas
I will be glad to wait tell Sunday and for all the guy's that helped Thomas.... Thanks also
U deserve the right ;D

Regards
Bill