Author Topic: First electrical power output from a Pyramid (Read 534002 times)

mikey · « **Reply #90 on:** November 18, 2007, 08:21:43 PM »

Hi Tom,

I think that if you post your designs here they will be safeguarded by our community (at overunity.com). This way it will not hidden away from all of us, but also there are so many brilliant people here with so many skills that it will no doubt be developed to it's ultimate capability.

I agree with you that no invention will ever stop people from waging war on each other, but if (and I believe we will) and when we succeed with our quest for open source free energy I believe that energy will no longer be a reason that people will look to others with enviable eyes or wage wars for.

But for the time being we desperately need to find an adequate solution for our energy needs as we have raped the planet so much until now that we are on the brink, I believe, of worldwide multiple natural systems collapse.

So, in my humble opinion, if I were you, I would post the details of your research here for safekeeping and further development by the community.

Regards,

Mike

duff · « **Reply #91 on:** November 18, 2007, 09:10:32 PM »

I think that the only way to get the power back in the hands of the people is to strip the power for those that have it and that a full disclosure of a new form energy or method of obtaining energy hopefully will bring them to their knees and force a restructuring.

There are still many people on this earth that don't live and breath for money.

z_p_e · « **Reply #92 on:** November 18, 2007, 09:13:27 PM »

Quote from: mikey on November 18, 2007, 08:21:43 PM

Hi Tom,

I think that if you post your designs here they will be safeguarded by our community (at overunity.com). This way it will not hidden away from all of us, but also there are so many brilliant people here with so many skills that it will no doubt be developed to it's ultimate capability.

So, in my humble opinion, if I were you, I would post the details of your research here for safekeeping and further development by the community.

Regards,

Mike

I think it's too late for this....it sounds like Tom already sold out.

If true, then he probably is legally bound not to disclose anything about it. Too bad.

karl · « **Reply #93 on:** November 18, 2007, 09:44:51 PM »

Hallo Thomas,
so ist's recht. Das ist nicht der richtige Weg.
Wenns der richtige Weg w?re dann raushauen unter einem ganz anderen Aspekt und keine Diskussionen und Namen.
Dieses Katz und Mausspiel hier ging noch nie gut.

hansvonlieven · « **Reply #94 on:** November 18, 2007, 10:03:29 PM »

Tach Thomas,

Bitte schau dir mal die Diskussion ueber Stubblefield an in "earth battery experiments" Hier reden wir ueber Energiestroemungen die dich wahrscheinlich interessieren. Was ich von dir gerne wissen moechte, die Energie die du da anzapfst, ist die Gleichstrom oder gibr es da Schwingungen. Und wenn ja, welche Frequenz?

G'day Tom,

Please have a look at the discussion about Stubblefield in "earth battery experiments". Here we are talking about energy flows that might interest you. What I would like to know from you, is the energy you are tapping into a direct current or are there oscillations? If yes, what frequency?

Hans von Lieven

tao · « **Reply #95 on:** November 18, 2007, 10:25:45 PM »

Quote from: Thomas_Trawoeger on November 18, 2007, 07:42:04 PM

Hello all: After swimming in warm water (thermal bath) i want to answer for some of Questions here.
Well, in reality i?m not very interrestet in peace, freedom ans some other ethic questions.
Live showed me, that it is only important to keep peace in the own house.
We tryed a lot with great Companys, political assholes and some real "good friends" with very religious ideas, but absolutely no technical Background.
When i made my great travels in 2006 and partwise in 2007, i saw a lot of this beautyful Planet, but it doesn?t matter where you go, everywhere you will find war, twilight and cruel.

I can swear you, that even the best invention will not make peace and freedom, and as i saw, the people are only interrestet to make money and you can believe me: Nobody wants to install Pyramides to solve energy-problems in this world.

The best offers we got from people wich only wants to bring the technology behind fat walls!

Thats the only true, and this is what made me a little carefully.

Of Course, the storys that we sold our invention in 2006 where true. But the Contract was broken from the other Side.
(It was written to provide this technologie and it was written, that the puplic will be informend about every Step.)

But what happened really?: Everything was top secret, and on the end, the nice guys told me, that they found out: there was no function anytime!..... But they cashed nice and brave more than 390.000 Euros in little portions for more than a year....

Well, we took the Contract to Judgement, and we won the right about our "Non functioned invention".
Now the other side was going to the Judge, because they found a function this Summer....

(This is like Children-Play)

Meanwhile, i am allowed to speak, and i will speak. But i don?t know, how i will make it right this time...

Maybe we will only communicate with Universitys, to find out where this power is coming from...
(But you will find no University for that Theme :-(

Maybe you have some idea, to solve this problem....

Maybe it would be really a good idea, to provide all plans here in the Internet, but what happens, if we do this?
believe me, the planet will not become more friendly...
Nice greeting
Tom

I spent over $50 trying to rebuild your pyramid Thomas, and I even searched the world looking for why your pyramid would work.

My research led to me to associates which I have since contacted many times via emails and such. One is a Phd and the other a theoretical physicist that a top university.

You can find SOME of their work here: http://www.gizapyramid.com/DrV-article.htm

The theoretical physicist's name is, VOLODYMYR KRASNOHOLOVETS
The other gentleman runs gizapyramid.com, John DeSalvo

I shall post the emails at a later date, but once they gentlemen say your device when I presented your works to them they got VERY excited. Volodymyr in an email explained to me exactly hows your pyramid works, based on his INERTIONS theory. He could see exactly how your device operates, using the magnet to activate and everything.

These men have done YEARS of EXPERIMENTAL research to back their findings and are truly and genuinely helpful.

I would also like to mention one other thing Thomas. You say that releasing the plans for your device won't bring peace and that a lot of people just want to bury the knowledge of it, well I can assure you that if you released your device on OU.com or a forum akin to this like gn0sis.com or the like, EVERYONE would be doing replications, and I GUARANTEE that if their replications WORK, then they WOULD be using them to power their homes, and they would in turn tells their friends and their friends would tell their friends, and it would spread like a virus and that alone should be worth everything! By releasing the info, without trying to get $, which you already got, you could easily help thousands of lives!I know many people in the free energy community who are just able to pay their energy bills and who desperately need assistance and FE in their lives and so they come on the internet everyday looking and hoping for that next disclosure or discovery. So, please think about everyone involved when you consider holding back construction details. There is always OPEN SOURCE too.

Micha · « **Reply #96 on:** November 18, 2007, 10:49:24 PM »

Hallo Thomas ,hier noch ein Gedanken der Dich auf der Frage nach einer Erkl?rung ?ber den Ursprung der von Dir entdeckten Phenomene nicht wirklich weiterbringt ,aber vielleicht dennoch interessant sein d?rfte .In dem Buch , es hei?t Gespr?che mit Seth , Erstausgabe Anfang der 70er, steht im Ansatz einiges ?ber Deine Beobachtungen , zumindest im weiteren Sinne .
Laut Seth gibt es auf der Erde einige wenige sogenannte Hauptkoordinationspunkte und weiter sehr viele Unterkoordinationspunkte , diese stellen Schnittpunkte verschiedener Realit?ten dar : Diese Schnittpunke sind unter anderem eine Konzentration von Energie , die sich wiederum in einigen physischen und auch psychischen Dingen ?u?ert , wie zb.deutlich h?here Kreativit?t der darin lebenden Menschen , l?ngere Lebensdauer der sich darin befindlichen Bauwerke .Messbar auch in einer leicht abweichenden g Konstanten .Genannte Hauptkoordinationspunkte sind in ?gypten Gizeh,S?damerika Tenochtitl?ns, und auch New York .
Die Unterkoordinationspunkte lassen sich mathematisch herleiten ,zumindest wird das so behauptet . Die math.Hergehenswiese wird nicht genannt , wahrscheinlich vorrausgesetzt .
Interessante ist ,das Du eventuell eine Apparatur entwickelt hast mit der sich Uk.. lokalisieren lassen , und es sich vielleicht sogar noch Energie gewinnen lie?e .GuteSache bleib dran und halte uns auf dem laufenden .

For the English.
talking about a book from the earlie 70s called Talks with Seth , and he is explaining that there are a couple of koordination points and sub koordination points all over the world . One is in Gizeh and South America Tenochtitl?ns also New York is one . The difference in the K points is that there is a lot of energie ,usefull as more kreativity fore the human beeings, also there is a differences in the gravitation . The nature of the points is a crosing of realities , if you are thinking that this
sounds esoterical , yes you are right , but why not .The EXOTERIC will not give us the surched answers
Sorry for the bad english
Micha

hansvonlieven · « **Reply #97 on:** November 18, 2007, 11:04:44 PM »

G'day Micha and all,

Software for the calculation of grid points is available here http://www.worldgrid.net/Software/GridpointAtlas.htm

It's expensive though.

Developed by Bruce Cathie.

Hans von Lieven

Micha · « **Reply #98 on:** November 18, 2007, 11:18:35 PM »

Hallo Hans ,
bin ja wirklich ?berrascht wo Du Dich ?berall auskennst .!!!
Deine Vita w?rde mich ja schon mal interessieren , auf Deiner Seite ist ja nicht viel zu erfahren .
Gru? aus der alten Heimat
Micha

hansvonlieven · « **Reply #99 on:** November 18, 2007, 11:22:56 PM »

Quote from: Micha on November 18, 2007, 11:18:35 PM

Hallo Hans ,
bin ja wirklich ?berrascht wo Du Dich ?berall auskennst .!!!
Deine Vita w?rde mich ja schon mal interessieren , auf Deiner Seite ist ja nicht viel zu erfahren .
Gru? aus der alten Heimat
Micha

Meine Vita lass ich absichtlich aus dem Spiel, ich will dass Leute meine Arbeit beurteilen, nicht mein Leben :-)

Gruss aus Australien

Hans

Thomas_Trawoeger · « **Reply #100 on:** November 19, 2007, 09:56:30 AM »

Hello all:
First of all, i want to thank all the people here for the serious speak in this forum.
(I could tell you from older times and other forums..)

So i am happy, that i found this community here.

But some of the old problems are still alive. Plenty of Contacts and plenty of Questions.
(Well, this is absolutely normal, but it could give some conflicts because i have a Job, and not too much time under the week)

The last two years showed us, that it is impossible to find a fair industrie for marketing this idea.
So i think, it will be the best, to swap the invention here in the Internet.

We will start in the first week of december to give you a detailed step by step Plan to construct pyramides everywhere in the world.
And everybody with a little feeling in Technic and Tools should be able to construct his own pyramide.
So everybody can proof the System, and maybe we can construct a small Community, where everybody is able to help the others...

I will construct a pyramide with plenty of pictures, measures, and so we can make it togehter and Online.
Its also possible to find some area in the Internet, where we can discuss problems and sucsess in a kind of Forum.

This will stop all problems with marketing, nobody will be the great Star, and so we have a good tool against all kind of Fakers.

Nobody can tell the world, that he is the great inventor of this idea, because it is fully opened in the Internet.
And maybe, we can show the Industry the long finger, because they can?t put the Idea into the grave...

I know, this is not in the interest of a few guys here, but it is the best for the great mass....
yours sincerely
Thomas Trawoeger

PS. We will broadcast all the news, and the location of our Project here just in Time!...
So please stop to ask me for Plans and Datails. You have my word, that you will get it.
We only want to make it secure, and without any problems with any laws....

mikey · « **Reply #101 on:** November 19, 2007, 11:24:58 AM »

Hi Thomas,

That's absolutely great news!! Together as a community we can and we will make a difference!!

Regards,

Mike

pese · « **Reply #102 on:** November 19, 2007, 12:24:11 PM »

Hallo Thomas,
alles Gute hier f?r Dein "Unterfangen".
Lass Dich nicht wiederholt stoppen (Febr 2007) durch
"Angebote", denn die Gr?nde sind oft "hinterh?ltig".
LG Gustav

karl · « **Reply #103 on:** November 19, 2007, 01:09:18 PM »

This is like christmas,
Thomas many thanks for your tune in.
Here a few Links with datas about this task.
Something for the warm evenings bofore we start:
Basic Informations
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Pyramidal_Electric_Transducer
Grandics paper
http://www.freeenergynews.com/Directory/Pyramid/GrandicsIE73.pdf
Grandics patent
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=6,974,110.PN.&OS=PN/6,974,110&RS=PN/6,974,110

Frohes Schaffen
Karl

karl · « **Reply #104 on:** November 19, 2007, 01:17:12 PM »

Here is again a link to Thomas's information side:

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Pyramid_Power:Thomas_Trawoger

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