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Author Topic: First electrical power output from a Pyramid  (Read 491064 times)

Offline skywatcher

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #975 on: August 24, 2008, 01:35:15 AM »
After some months, i tried to have a look again at http://trawoeger-pyramide.info/ and got this:

(http://i36.tinypic.com/hrcylh.jpg)

Very strange...   ???

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #975 on: August 24, 2008, 01:35:15 AM »

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #976 on: August 24, 2008, 04:55:25 AM »
yea.
they locked thomas trawoger in a box, threw the box over a cliff, and threw the cliff into a blackhole.

unlike trawoger, i know to keep my name and face sepperate from my research.


in the years to come, i will see electricity from pyramids come back to earth.
and the mistakes made in atlantis, will be corrected.

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #977 on: August 24, 2008, 11:48:51 AM »
This is my feeling to what happen in this thread

In the first page that was the real sincere Thomas, then his website was under attack, then he disapper 15 days ! , and when he reappear he was not the same, he has been replace by another paid conspiracy agent to fool us all,

or it may be from the beginning that he was not really him ?

anyway that is a good sigh,  that is a probably a working device and we have not see it yet



and with Nitinnun we see more clearly how it suppose to work !

Hey Nitinnun, the NWO is able to find anyone on the net just by getting an email !   a friend of mine tell me this... all the net is infest, they can locate anyone writting on the net

if some inventor find something he is better take much care of the way he will send it to the net

Pyraman seem have been crunch too by NWO

i begin to understand your clock wise and counter clock wise explanation, it is very interesting

understanding the Nitinnun theory will make easy to create new device as well

thank you Nitinnun, many builders of the TT pyramid may get some hope to pursuit the quest

from my point of view we do need an easy electric pyramid , not to produce a lot of electricity but to show to the world that is working, it will be better to have a very simple thing for everyone to reproduce, than try complete powerfull model then

and the CW air and CCW ground theory is enough simple for me, i wonder what will happen with a large steel metal in the ground and a simple copper coil CW in the air, over a dune of sand

anyway i look forward your next shema !  and i hope you'll not be spot yet by the NWO


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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #977 on: August 24, 2008, 11:48:51 AM »
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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #978 on: September 05, 2008, 11:26:52 AM »
Hi all,

ave been reading thru all your posts from 2007. i think nitinnun has probably come closest to making a pyramid that can give out power simply becos his last diagram showed perfectly how power can be generated with natural materials. No capacitors, resisitors - just earth and metal. Whoever made the great pyramid at giza would have access to only this, nothimg more nothing less. No silicon chips or electrnic components!

my second point why he is the closest is becos every civilization that has awed men hav pyramids made during a period which was impossbile for them to make with their constraints. The egyptians, aztecz, mayas, incas, indians all had various forms of pyramid.

except for the egyptians, all others had flat topped pyramids. me being from india and knowing quite a bit about indian civilization, am able to draw clear parallels with what nitinnun and PYRAman have been talking about.

Hindus in india follow something called the Vedas which nobody knws when and who created it. it was taught orally generation to generation, no written stuff but it contains anyting u want to knw about in thw world. Highly scientific if u look close enough, it had volumes on architecture, town planning, ship building and air craft building apart from varios other topics right from daily life to death.

Hindu temples have something called Vimana which is pyramidal in shape and structure and is the largest part of the temple, there are seperate volumes and books on temple building which specifies very exact measurements and angles indicating a highly precise geometricala nd trigonometrical knowledge among the people who created it.

every temple till date in india is constructed in exactly the same way, its no mean job becos i can safely wager my balls that we have more than atleast a million temples in India. Transalated into a million pyramids!

Every vimana has odd numbers of antenna like structures made of copper right at the flat top! i have seen massive vimanas around 70 metres tall with 13 antenna like structures at the top.

right from the material and stone to be used for building the vimana to the exact measurements to be followed in given in the Vedas - our knowledge base.

Next coming to the sound waves - vibrating sand part ! the vedas have sections of poem like verses totalling more than 10 million which have to be recited at a particular tone and beat as a prayer to the statue of the god who is kept right under the Vimana(pyramid). it is said only this daily recital changes the vibrations in the air and strengthens the temple strength. any mistake in the recital will lead to side effects.

I am pretty sure after all your posts that some energy has to exist inside the pyramid and all of the them have a particular pattern like the shape, copper top and stones and sound waves.

Nitinnun if you can only make the pyramid u drew and if PYRAMAN shows up, i think we got a game in our hands. You guys got lotsa enthusiasm and talen, am just an electronics engineer gone bonkers over supernatural events and energy. but would be willing to help out if we are on the right track.

thought i shud share dis info wid u guys cos i the enthusiasm seems to be sagging just a bit off late:)

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #979 on: September 06, 2008, 09:37:12 PM »
daityan,

(I love it that I awoke this morning thinking of pyramids for my winter garden)

Could you post a picture of a or a couple of these vimanas with their antennae?

Is there a relationship between the size of the pyramid and the number of these antennae?

Thanks for your post. I find it most valuable.

jeanna

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #979 on: September 06, 2008, 09:37:12 PM »
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Offline daityan

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #980 on: September 08, 2008, 07:47:43 AM »
Hi Jeanna,
have attached a few of the vimana photos of some prominent temples in india, these are some of the more famous ones. but if u see any town, village, city or metro in india, almost every 4th street u wud see a small roadside temple with a vimana.

if u see the pics, u wud see small structures made of copper at the top of the vimana, they are actually made of 6-7 seperate parts which are then assembled to make the Kalasam or the antenna like thing.

take a look and leme knw wat u think. :)

to me, a capacitor or electrical circuits aint the way to go cos obvisouly this wasnt the way the original creators of the pyramids went about. it shud b far more simpler than the V6 pyramid that thomas proposed.

the one nitinnun suggested somehw seems to be in the right direction cos of its simplicity in theory and matrerials used. but then Nitunnun now seems to have disapeared:)

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #981 on: September 08, 2008, 07:48:48 AM »
this is my latest educated guess, regarding how thomas trawogers badly demonstrated mess works.

does anybody disagree with this?

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #981 on: September 08, 2008, 07:48:48 AM »
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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #982 on: September 08, 2008, 08:18:15 AM »
i kinda agree with your guess, but my point is thomas seems to have introduced unwanted/useless elements into the design to confuse/ward off people who would want to replicate it.

For example the magnet! why would we need a magnet here? your theory will work without the magnet becos the diagram alrdy has steel and copper which automatically conducts the CW and CCW ions, a magnet becomes redundant.

Also one more thing that we might hav left out, all pyramids are placed north-south in line with earth's magnetic field, maybe we shud try to plug in this concept and we might actually come up with the original design which was polluted intentionally by thomas to keep replicators at bay.

the original design which you had made in an earlier post without the copper tubing etc also seems to fit.

on the whole, i think we shud scrap thomas's idea on the pyramid and start with our own cos once we get the concept the design aint that tuf to figure out. A simplistic pyramid design without copper tubings et all made of any material but ofcourse with the copper and steel coils/plates shud b a gud starting point.

wasting energy on TT's design seems to be a waste of time, lets shft the focus on geting something working on sound principles which we seem to be figuring out quite well now. lets all get some materials ready and start trying it out once we freeze on a design.

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #983 on: September 08, 2008, 08:28:21 AM »
i'm still working on the pyramid.
i'm just trying to discover a missing piece in my knowledge, which is evading me.

2 days ago, i realized that there must be something critical that i need to do, but have not been doing.
something involving the the clockwise coil, and the counter-clockwise coil.

i think that one of the two coils "collects" CW so that it can be used,
and the other coil "collects" CCW, so that it can be used.



as for the illuminati.
those dark clowns cannot touch me.

they cannot even successfully daydream about touching me. let alone do it.


i have asked the pleiadians,
the andromedans,
the sirians,
the arcturians,
the asshole ummites,
all 1,001 other species of space-hippy space-elf pokemon,
archangel micheal,
lord metatron,
lady "diamond-hide"nada,
jesus tapdancing sananda,
a partridge in a pear tree,
and every willing entity in the entire freaking universe,
to protect me from the illuminati.

so that i may spread technology, without being found dead in a laundromat parking lot one day.


even if the dark clowns could find me, than i am 6 times more untouchable to them, than Al Capone.
minus an income tax evasion conviction.

if they even tried to lift a finger against me, than my invincible horde of protectors would hand them an ice cream cone containing 24 flavors of -blocked.


other than that, i believe 124% that i am fully protected from harm.

and that makes it impossible for them to so much as sneeze at me.
hoping that their dark clown germs might somehow give me a cold.

even the dark-clown common-cold, coming from their snotty dark clown noses, cannot touch me!

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #983 on: September 08, 2008, 08:28:21 AM »
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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #984 on: September 08, 2008, 09:05:35 AM »
haha dats a gud one:)

u knw wat, there aint no Illuminati, the only illuminati is Greed ! Thomas got enveloped by his own greed to make it big and make money out of smtin that aint his.

anyone who disapears is only running after money, he jus quits n goes after funding, corporates watever not! no illuminati, no dark clowns! its jus their own greed!

nutin to fear, as for me i simply wudnt care if there is an illuminati lookin to exterminate me! cos if they have stooped to such levels where they need to send out assasins to kill people like me, then sure as hell those assasins wud be seriously underpaid --> incompetent killers, can quite handle them myself:)

dude jus get the design going, watver help u want, we are here! get d design out n we can start!

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #985 on: September 08, 2008, 09:15:27 AM »
this pyramid is 4 feet wide at the base.
it is built of folded steel sheets, gypsum drywall from the hardware store, and zip ties.


1:
i marked each gypsum triangle, by cutting along the edge of a huge steel wire triangle.

2:
i hammered hundreds of holes into the cut-mark, with a flathead screw driver and a hammer.

3:
i turned the gypsum drywall over, and cut the indentations from the holes.

4:
i cut 3 strips of steel sheeting. one for each side of the triangle.

5:
i bent back the ends of each steel side. so that the edges could overlap perfectly.

6:
i hammered the flat head screwdriver through the steel, wherever i needed a hole.
(i twisted the screwdriver head, to widen the hole enough, to align all 3 holes, to slip the zip tie through)


this pyramid should work, since all 4 steel triangles are electrically touching each other.


i am still working on my pyramid project.
i'm just looking for a missing piece, for the guts of the pyramid.

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #986 on: September 08, 2008, 11:12:34 PM »
Hi Jeanna,
take a look and leme knw wat u think. :)


Thanks for the pic Daityan,

I am having trouble seeing a pyramid in them. Is it just also always covered by a dome?

The third pic has the look of a very elongated and tall building somewhat like a pyramid, but not much like the others.

So, what was it that was put out in the vedas as directions for how these should be made.

I think this is a very big clue, and thank you,

jeanna
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Hindu temples have something called Vimana which is pyramidal in shape and structure and is the largest part of the temple, there are seperate volumes and books on temple building which specifies very exact measurements and angles indicating a highly precise geometricala nd trigonometrical knowledge among the people who created it.

every temple till date in india is constructed in exactly the same way,

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #987 on: September 09, 2008, 06:43:03 AM »
Hi,
I now believe that the device of Thomas Trawoeger is a kind of pyramid enhanced electroliser for making hydrogen, for further use in an electricity cell. You know the central device has an open pipe end. Maybe that is the hydrogen output? Thomas never said what this pipe was meant for.
Is there a chance that some sort of sand (SiO2 +???) releases hydrogen ?

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #988 on: September 09, 2008, 12:43:15 PM »
this what i have found on vimana, just look like my 2 cents

http://thebigtemple.com/architecture2.html

and

Vimana at resonance

http://www.humanresonance.org/vimana.html

i have not read it yet, it seems very interesting...

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Vimana Fourth-Density Craft
Ancient Sanskrit knowledge is preserved in humanity's oldest books, the Vedas of India, relating the technological feats of a civilization capable of not only airborne flight but even interplanetary travel. Yet, as in our contemporary industry, these advanced achievements were plagued by destructive technologies.
The Vedic Mahabharata text details the destructive effects of nuclear warfare with unmistakable descriptions of the mushroom cloud and radiation sickness - a text that was completely beyond modern comprehension until the events of 1945 at Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Japan. The melted remains of those two modern cities informed a new understanding of the fate of ancient cities like Pakistan's Harrapa and Moenjo-daro, which evidently suffered an identical nuclear annihilation several thousand years ago as attested by still radioactive skeletons strewn about their streets.
The complex technical knowledge contained in these oldest Vedic scriptures has already produced breakthroughs in material science which provide insight into one of the most deeply veiled aspects of ancient human technology - the control of gravity. Later Sanskrit texts such as the Vimana Shastra (quoting Lohatantra), Amsu Bodhini, and Kritaka Vajra Nirnaya, contain extensive metallurgical formulations of various alloys of gold, silver, copper, zinc and iron.

that is not exactly what we are looking for, someone may find better link....

EDIT: and http://www.book-of-thoth.com/article1593.html

The Singing Pyramid


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For this reason, I believe that the Egyptians were attempting to harness the vibrations of the Earth itself.

To understand this, we must grasp the fact that the planet we live on resonates and vibrates, though at a very low frequency that none of us notices. It does this partly because of its shifting tectonic plates but also because it is bombarded from outer space by electromagnetic radiation from the sun and by other cosmic rays.

It is therefore possible, as the writer Christopher Dunn has suggested, that the Great Pyramid functioned as an acoustic horn – harnessing the vibrations of the Earth.

These low frequency vibrations would have travelled up through the foundations of the Pyramid and caused the granite beams above the King’s Chamber to resonate in sympathy. The idea behind the different sizes and masses of the beams may have been to generate harmonics of the Earth frequencies, i.e. to raise them to an audible level (the human ear can detect frequencies down to about 16 Hertz). These subtly modified vibrations would then have been transmitted down into the chamber below, which was designed to amplify and broadcast the sounds.




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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #989 on: September 09, 2008, 08:48:59 PM »

Is there a chance that some sort of sand (SiO2 +???) releases hydrogen ?

More than a chance.
I have been messing around with the crystal battery things. - just a little-

It seems that in a basic environment - like around pH11 or more  (maybe pH13 is needed) sand dissolves into liquid. To some extent sodium silicate is there.

If this is mixed with some clay the the Sodium and Aluminum are there as well.

So, the Aluminum begins to dissolve and H2 is the gas that is liberated.

I have popped it I am sure. Each bubble that formed popped as I lit it.

Also, the Al electrodes would dissolve around the mixture and make bubbles of H2. TT had us use copper and the copper electrodes do not produce this effect.

I don't know about the carbon electrode. I have been wondering about carbon as an electrode in electrolysis action. It is a possibility, I think.

I made several mixes so I can't be very explicit here, but this is definitely a chemical reaction that can happen.

Now, with just sand in a saline solution, I think not. There needs to be alkalinity and aluminum present. But this is very easily added.

But, then again, sand + salt water + carbon... maybe.

Good idea spacetrax, thanks.

jeanna


 

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