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Author Topic: First electrical power output from a Pyramid  (Read 491403 times)

Offline tinu

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #900 on: January 15, 2008, 09:29:27 PM »
No TT no pyramid

Let?s add something to make it more interesting:
Yes or no TT, no pyramid.  ;D

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #900 on: January 15, 2008, 09:29:27 PM »

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #901 on: January 16, 2008, 01:23:56 PM »
I told you many times!
You're loosing time here!!!
No TT no pyramid ( if this was not a story!!!!) .
Tigrotto

so why are you loosing time by telling that we are loosing time ?

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #902 on: January 16, 2008, 06:58:48 PM »
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I told you many times!
You're loosing time here!!!
No TT no pyramid ( if this was not a story!!!!) .

was bist du denn f?r ein elender Heuchler???

Sag mal geht's eigentlich noch?, als TT sein Forum er?ffnet hat, bist du ihm fast in den Arsch gekrochen um an die Pl?ne zu kommen,
hast ihn telefonisch terrorisiert und das Forum mit dusseligen Kommentaren geflutet. Das Ende vom Lied war, dass du vom Moderator auf
einen normalen User degradiert wurdest.

Und jetzt wo TT weg ist (das Recht hat er sich immer vorbehalten, das wu?te JEDER ! ) beleidigst du ihn und beschmutzt seinen Namen, nur weil es nicht nach deinem Willen geht.

Weisst du was du bist, einfach nur Abschaum, garnicht wert die Technologie in die H?nde solcher wie dir zu geben.


schon erstaunlich dass es die Sorte "Mensch" doch wirklich ?berall gibt, einfach nur abartig

atlantex


p.s. als ich die Zeilen in deinem posting gelesen habe, fiel mir schlagartig einer der letzten Kommentare aus den Ruinen des TT G?stebuchs ein:

26.12.2007 - xxx
No GURU, no Christmas FUN, no...pyramid!!!
XXX

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #902 on: January 16, 2008, 06:58:48 PM »
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Offline neptune

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #903 on: January 16, 2008, 09:48:10 PM »
Could someone please give a brief translation of the above post, and more importantly the latest post on the Yahoo group pyramid site. Thankyou.

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #904 on: January 16, 2008, 10:52:35 PM »
Could someone please give a brief translation of the above post, and more importantly the latest post on the Yahoo group pyramid site. Thankyou.
@ Neptun
http://www.online-translator.com

@ All
TT hat Uns nur seine Erkenntnisse weitergeben wollen.
Er hat nicht mit der St?rke der Gegner in der Art gerechnet
als diese ihm Probleme machen.
Ich m?chte zur Zeit nicht in seiner Haut stecken und hoffe
dass er alles zur Ruhe bringen kann
Pese

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
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Offline duff

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #905 on: January 16, 2008, 11:36:37 PM »
Sorry I posted those translation links

We need human translations....
« Last Edit: January 17, 2008, 07:14:44 AM by duff »

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #906 on: January 17, 2008, 07:00:20 PM »
I am continuing to experiment.

After some thought I have dropped my sand level to just below the center conductor in the top horizontal copper tube. This will prevent the two sides from shorting via the copper wire.

I am also making adjustments in the salt solution level. I am making small changes and keeping accurate records of what has been injected. I wait a day or so before making further adjustments and record voltage levels between the carbon & copper every hour or so.  I have not yet reached a level where solution runs out the right hole and have injected 6 ml so far.

I've also been trying to determine if there is an interaction between the galvanic action of the copper and carbon, the pyramid alignment and height of the energy pickup device. So far I've seen no patterns that I can identify. The only thing I've noted is that the voltage with respect to the carbon and copper is higher with all 4 sides on.

I have never seen any voltage between the secondary capacitor and the pyramid frame other than an ac component. Yes - I have a separate ground from my house wiring and plumbing. It is a ground I setup on a previous experiment. The Earth Ground consists of 26" flat spiral (roughly 50 feet of 1/2 inch copper tubing) buried in a 16 inch hole with an 8 foot ground rod driven through the center to a depth of 16"+96"=112 inches. The ac component is a problem...


-Duff
« Last Edit: January 17, 2008, 07:53:50 PM by duff »

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Offline Walter Hofmann

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #907 on: January 17, 2008, 09:48:08 PM »
Hi duff,
I am so damne busy with work that I did have no time to do anything but I will tell from my experience :
I never was aible to get some water out of the second hole and the answer is that the water gets up in the vertical sand, thats why I injected about 4mL on ether side very slow,
also I found that with the pyramide frame connected to the ground ( totaly seperated 10 feet in the ground) that the voltage what is shown goes down about half,
the covering of all four side's did not make any difference against just three side's, even the bare frame brought pretty much the same result
I have on the secondary cap after charging thru the converter DC and just 0.004V on AC
I only measure between the pyramide frame and the caps or converter . the converter is not connected at all to the pyramide frame this is in order to avoid any influence from a galvanic cell so to speak.
The kick start with a battery brought after the initial voltage run down nothing.
the highest output was the converter set to a hight of 230mm from base and a bit of true north, the pyramide frame set to true north. it was 0.845V, but just one time never again more then 0,4V.
maybe this helps
greetings
walt


I am continuing to experiment.

After some thought I have dropped my sand level to just below the center conductor in the top horizontal copper tube. This will prevent the two sides from shorting via the copper wire.

I am also making adjustments in the salt solution level. I am making small changes and keeping accurate records of what has been injected. I wait a day or so before making further adjustments and record voltage levels between the carbon & copper every hour or so.  I have not yet reached a level where solution runs out the right hole and have injected 6 ml so far.

I've also been trying to determine if there is an interaction between the galvanic action of the copper and carbon, the pyramid alignment and height of the energy pickup device. So far I've seen no patterns that I can identify. The only thing I've noted is that the voltage with respect to the carbon and copper is higher with all 4 sides on.

I have never seen any voltage between the secondary capacitor and the pyramid frame other than an ac component. Yes - I have a separate ground from my house wiring and plumbing. It is a ground I setup on a previous experiment. The Earth Ground consists of 26" flat spiral (roughly 50 feet of 1/2 inch copper tubing) buried in a 16 inch hole with an 8 foot ground rod driven through the center to a depth of 16"+96"=112 inches. The ac component is a problem...


-Duff


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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #908 on: January 17, 2008, 10:47:51 PM »
@ Duff
I confirm almost all of your findings (or lack of those as it was the case), except the influence of presence/absence of external sides on the voltage. (But the voltage can be influenced by many things, including small variations in temperature; please check it as a possible cause.)

Saltwater might possibly come out at 12-15ml or more, depending on the hole height and other variables (sand texture, etc). But at that quantity of water the whole sand will be pretty much soaked.

@all,
There are many contradictions in the V6 description we have. Some of them do not simply reconcile. For instance, sand will obviously prevent the graphite rods from ?oscillating? at its ?free end?. Wet sand will do much worst?

Much talk can be done on the above issues (/on existing contradictions) but I guess it would be pointless.
I?d rather say in conclusion that it was definitely a hoax. And sorry pese, atlantex and others but I won?t buy the ?enemy story? anymore.
Check for yourself: if not an incredible coincidence, while hundreds of us were waiting for the ?guru? to come back, it seems he was on a prolonged holiday and nothing more: http://74784.iboox.com/
Then, although I?m not sure it can be verified anymore, I?m telling you that the company?s site was updated during those days; obviously, the story about lack of any internet connection was another lie. I don?t know about the burglary and about the threats threat but I do suspect that the old forum was hacked by TT himself; professional opinions on site security and hacking issues were already posted into this forum and elsewhere.

Now, we may search for free energy but I don?t think is fair that our time and resources as well as we, as human beings, are TT?s playground. Nobody asked him to make promises in the first place and to later mess with them. At least, speaking for myself I do not consider of being his fool and to me, until proved the opposite by himself, he is an ordinary liar or maybe just an ill person. Every bit of information I have (there is more besides the above already posted) points toward this sad conclusion. Comments?

Sorry for being maybe too direct,
Tinu

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #908 on: January 17, 2008, 10:47:51 PM »
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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #909 on: January 17, 2008, 10:54:43 PM »

Hi duff,
I am so damne busy with work that I did have no time to do anything but I will tell from my experience :
I never was aible to get some water out of the second hole and the answer is that the water gets up in the vertical sand, thats why I injected about 4mL on ether side very slow,

Walter,

My approach is much like yours. First I inject water in the right side and then the left. No solution ran out the right side when injecting the left. I injected in the right side first attempting to create an equal distribution of water and injected the left side last so that the drain action could work when the proper amount was reached.

I agree that the water is being absorbed by the sand in the vertical tubes but at some point the water should run out. I am going slow in a effort to try to determine the precise amount of salt solution it takes to saturate the sand and then produce run off.

On a previous attempt I saw water run out the right side after 6ml but I was injecting it much faster than this time and I got no results.

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also I found that with the pyramide frame connected to the ground ( totaly seperated 10 feet in the ground) that the voltage what is shown goes down about half,
the covering of all four side's did not make any difference against just three side's, even the bare frame brought pretty much the same result

I think you are refering to the voltage between the secondary cap and the frame. At the moment  I am not so much interested in that voltage. I am trying to determine the influence of the pyramid orientation and height of the pickup device on the galvanic action.

In my case the ground does not seem to be influencing the galvanic action. I have run tested with and without the ground connected to the frame. Again I'm NOT looking at the voltage between the secondary cap and frame which is grounded.

My data is showing a slight trend toward higher voltages related to galvanic action with four sides on. Also, the last few nights I'm seeing higher voltages  starting around 22:00.

I've condsidered connecting a data logger to it but  I'd need to do some calabrations before beginning and it's cold in the garage right now...


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I have on the secondary cap after charging thru the converter DC and just 0.004V on AC
I only measure between the pyramide frame and the caps or converter . the converter is not connected at all to the pyramide frame this is in order to avoid any influence from a galvanic cell so to speak.

Same as yours - My converter is not connected to frame or ground.

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The kick start with a battery brought after the initial voltage run down nothing.
the highest output was the converter set to a hight of 230mm from base and a bit of true north, the pyramide frame set to true north. it was 0.845V, but just one time never again more then 0,4V.
maybe this helps
greetings
walt

I have tested at 233mm & 177mm so far and tried alignment with true north, a few degrees west of true north and magnetic north.


Did anyone get the pictures of Thomas & his wife posted at trawoeger-pyramide.info.

When I saw that picture I thought that looks like Flaivo Thomas who Thomas claims was a fraud.

I think Flaivo video shows the pyramid face aligned to magnetic north. The tic marks to the left are for alignment to true north.

I don't know what city Thomas lives in but most of Austria's magnetic declination is approximately 2 to 3 degrees East depending on your location. So the tic marks to the left (west) would make sense.

Thanks Walter for the input.

-Duff

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Trawoger pyramid cracked..Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #910 on: January 19, 2008, 11:48:37 AM »
I think I understood how the egyptian pyramids worked.
So, you know that pyramids dehydrate bodies, so what if they produce HEAT from inside ?
Now, by studying different sections of the old pyramids, I noticed that all of them had wells deep underground, where from they must have extracting water, in times when the desert was fertile land and water level was near the earth surface. By some means they conducted the water through the corridors and passages, thus reaching even the queens and kings chamber. I remember I read somewhere that when they first opened the great pyramid, they found salt on the walls, the walls being also a little erroded by salt. So, here we have the salted water of Trawoeger.
I think that Trawogers pyramid produces primarily heat, and when the copper frame is heated, some peltier effect comes into play, because there are more different metalls built into the frame. Then he collects the high current-low voltage and converts them by means of spool and condensers. You notice that the coil is not made directly on the copper pipe, maybe because the pipe gets hot?
Also, when you look to his old pictures, on the first site of this thread, you see the open hole of a narrower copper pipe, attached to the main copper frame. Maybe he added salted water in order to TUNE the copper frame to the frequency of the pyramid. I dont know if the V6 has something right in it, so we could start by making the frame shown in his picture.

I also have to say something else. After I understood how the pyramid works, I wanted to keep it for myself and make a lot of money with it, but as I rejoyed at that idea, something strange happened, in my head I heard a very loud and penetrating thought saying DONT BE SELFISH! That gave me the chills and kind of scared me because of its strength, that was definitely NOT my thought, so I decided to register here and tell the solution to you all. I will build my own pyramid and try it, but some of you have already built pyramids, so you can try it first.

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #911 on: January 19, 2008, 08:56:51 PM »
@PYRAman. Whilst not wishing to totally discount your theories, i think the heat idea is unlikely. If the pyramid caused a significant temperature rise, I think someone would have already noticed this. Also the effect could be tested without a pyramid, by just heating the converter. If this device could provide 15 watts output with a hardly noticeable temperature rise, it would be very useful in other applications. Nevertheless, I am always interested in your views.

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #912 on: January 19, 2008, 09:33:13 PM »
Theory of Operation...

I?ve seen a circuit used as detector for scalar/torsion waves.
You use a permanent magnet inside a faraday shield which
is exposed to a coil with one open end, tuneable cap to select
the proper frequency.
The theory behind this setup is that the scalar/torsion waves alter
the field of the permanent magnet which is causing a time variant
magnetic flux in the coil - which stimulates the energy transfer between
the open coil and the cap.

This is as far I am thinking about the closest match to what I?ve seen
on the video to v4 converter.

An open point is how the AC is rectified - but this can be due to the
materials used.

In such a case the pyramide construction would act as a directional
lens which concentrates scalar/torsion waves.


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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #913 on: January 19, 2008, 10:15:00 PM »
@fritz, I was very interested in your post, What was your source for this information? Is there any possibility of a diagram or circuit diagram? This could be the key to unlocking the mystery.
@all. Notice the discussion going on in the other forum about different types of graphite/carbon rods. Is this one of the keys to higher output?

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #914 on: January 19, 2008, 10:29:29 PM »
@neptune

Mr. Bearden has it: http://www.cheniere.org/books/starwarsnow/scalardetector.htm

Its not too identical - but it "feels" the same.

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