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Author Topic: First electrical power output from a Pyramid  (Read 519845 times)

Offline supersam

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #870 on: January 04, 2008, 03:50:00 AM »
@walter and all,

now that that is understood, i still think that the biggest problem i see is you don't have anything that connects to the balance of the circuit.  the copper is still going to function as a positive the same as the carbon.  think about switching one of your rods for a negative, either zink coated iron or magnesium. then you have a circuit!!!

lol
sam


@walter and all,

i have been following this thread and tt site since the begining.  i have also been following the earth battery thread.  in the earth battery thread and experiments, they have found that using cabon rod stuck into the ground always becomes the positive of the circuit and by using a magnesium rod stuck in the ground this becomes a negative pole.  by running this circuit through a led they are already generating enough power to light the led.  please don't let me take you off track, however,  tt never really finished describing his setup completely.  so we really can't be sure what his setup is.  it does seem to make a little sense to me however if you are using two carbon rods, maybe both actually positive with only a slight voltage differential due to the length of your positve carbon rods why your coils only produce when wound the same direction.  it also makes sense to me that if you also use a magnesium rod, negative, and a carbon rod positive, to form a circuit through your coils that are wound right handed and lefthanded and then ran in series with your capacitor,  you might expect to have a chance, with proper alighnment to get enough power to see if in fact the pyramid is doing anything to enhance this effect.

just my thoughts. kind of got a little discouraged about the actual build when tt pulled out,  since you guys are already way ahead my if someone could give this a try it might get some more of us watchers off our asses.  keep up the good work.

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sam

Offline atlantex

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #871 on: January 04, 2008, 08:00:53 AM »
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think about switching one of your rods for a negative, either zink coated iron or magnesium. then you have a circuit!!!

that would be a simple dirty chemical reaction in combination with the saltwater and sand.

I assume that's not what we want...   :P



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Offline Walter Hofmann

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #872 on: January 04, 2008, 11:48:45 AM »
Hi all,
I wana say in regards to galvanic cell it can not function as such because a galvanic cell allways needs two connection to the same cell one pos. and one neg. right? now even if the copper frame works as such second pol it is not connected to anythings totally insulated from the negative pyramide frame.
now I did some more testing. I had to take out the center cap because I broke one of the connector her I thoughd why not connect the two coils in series ( connect both together instead of the capacitor) the graphite rods still connected to ether of the coil ends, both coils are CCW wound. then put one connector from the big capacitor to the right side and the other pol from this capacitor to the pos. of the DVM and I was totally surprise that I had instant 0.34V even that the cap. was totally outside the copper frame. with just a bit turning the copperframe in ether direction I could see changing of the voltage up to 0.1V the highest was if this frame was about 3 degree eastward but the pyramide frame was set to excatly north. the center of the copperframe was set to 220mm hight from the base.
the out put is allways negative on the DVM.
greetings
walt

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #873 on: January 05, 2008, 03:14:24 AM »
@ walt,

i think what you are seeing is a result, however small of the earths magnetic fields running across your coils, just because the earth is spinning in a magnetic field!  you have so little voltage how can you asume anything else?  other than maybe "the grid", jezz i can get more voltage out of my laptop's stray capacitance!  what the f---k?  how can you possibly consider such voltage as even pertaining to anythin other than the earth?  if you can stick your two carbon rods in the ground, one two inches and one three inches, and get not only votage but amperage out, how in the hell are our fifty dollar pyramids, helping a damn thing. pardon my french!  the real question is, DOES THE PYRAMID HELP THIS ACTION?   screw what tt said!!  obviously something is wrong with that picture.  I SIMPLY DO NOT KNOW WHAT TT DISCOVERED, BUT IF WHAT HE HAS POSTED SO FAR IS ANY INDICATION, I CAN'T SEE WHY IT WOULD BE A PROBLEM!!!!

lolo
sam

ps: so since you have the hardware now, why not experiment on your own?  seems logical!!

Offline Walter Hofmann

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #874 on: January 05, 2008, 11:52:59 AM »
Hi sam,
you are very confusing to me did you read my posts? then you should have realized long time ago that I do my own experiements but report back the results good or bad, what about you?
bitching around does not help and just to go what TT said ether.
greetings
walt

@ walt,

i think what you are seeing is a result, however small of the earths magnetic fields running across your coils, just because the earth is spinning in a magnetic field!  you have so little voltage how can you asume anything else?  other than maybe "the grid", jezz i can get more voltage out of my laptop's stray capacitance!  what the f---k?  how can you possibly consider such voltage as even pertaining to anythin other than the earth?  if you can stick your two carbon rods in the ground, one two inches and one three inches, and get not only votage but amperage out, how in the hell are our fifty dollar pyramids, helping a damn thing. pardon my french!  the real question is, DOES THE PYRAMID HELP THIS ACTION?   screw what tt said!!  obviously something is wrong with that picture.  I SIMPLY DO NOT KNOW WHAT TT DISCOVERED, BUT IF WHAT HE HAS POSTED SO FAR IS ANY INDICATION, I CAN'T SEE WHY IT WOULD BE A PROBLEM!!!!

lolo
sam

ps: so since you have the hardware now, why not experiment on your own?  seems logical!!

Offline Walter Hofmann

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #875 on: January 05, 2008, 12:07:13 PM »
Hi all,
I just examin the old picture from TT's video and the big capacitor look at your self
her http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/MGN_R-7athzIYLuwktD75K1TlTob3sPT--Aceb5USJl3Caj2quviIikw_3ToYfYlAxyYzfjxhrrL0iW1mJ_0Ds2MTS_6iW_-V6u6/V6/_pyramid%20picture%203.jpg,
watch for the connection on this cap one pol comes from the converter unit on one side ( right) and the positive of the DVM goes from the sam plate and the motor connection. the other plate is connected directly to the pyramide frame , the DVM and the motor.
what do you think of this.
greetings
walt

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #876 on: January 06, 2008, 12:12:54 AM »
I have new idea. If is true that pyramid can prevent food and drink go bad, it's probably change and dielectric constant of that material. That  change of dielectric constant (if exist) can be utilised for prodicting electric power.
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As seen from image, change in dielectric constant can be changed by placing dielectric in and out pyramid. Some additional explanation: if pyramid afect food and drink go bad, it's probably change and dielectric constant of that material -- change of dielectric constant change capacity of capacitor (dielectric of that capacitor) -- change of capacity cause change of voltage -- change of voltage is - AC voltage, wich can be conected to load and produce current -- capacitor conduct AC current, but not DC current, and then main capacitor won't be discharged

Water is taken as example in drawings

Offline supersam

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #877 on: January 06, 2008, 05:50:59 AM »
@walt and all,,

good luck, i just can't figure why you want look at the facts with the hardware.  take the long road if you must!!!

lol
sam

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #878 on: January 06, 2008, 09:28:32 PM »
@walt and all,,

good luck, i just can't figure why you want look at the facts with the hardware.  take the long road if you must!!!

lol
sam
HUH? ??? ???
jeanna

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #879 on: January 07, 2008, 07:19:59 PM »
@ supersam, we have no alternative except to take the long road, unless of course you know a shorter road, in which case, please tell.
              My next step is to replicate the v4 as closely as possible. Looking at the photo on page one of this topic, There are 2 areas of confusion regarding the circuit. First is the area near the blue object on the left side of the copper tube. we now know there is a reed switch here operated by a magnet, and both of these are unnecessary. The other area is identifying the 2 output leads of the capacitor. [ note that the drawing on this page shows only one out put lead. One lead is obvious. A black wire exits the cap at top left and connects to the 5 turn coil via a terminal block. The
only other output lead is the bare wire at cap bottom left. I think it connects either to the reed switch and thus to the left graphite rod and the converter output. A second, less likely possibility is that it connects to the copper frame near the reed switch.
     Thus the circuit is; 2 graphite rods connect together and the output is taken from the left rod, another wire from left graphite goes to the big coil then the small coil, through the cap and back to the left graphite[ or possibly to copper frame] Opinions welcome

Offline Walter Hofmann

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #880 on: January 07, 2008, 11:02:26 PM »
Hi neptune,
follow the wire on the left side from the top the righht graphite rod wire goes over a 1 turn to the left graphite wire is connected there to a black wire what goes in a kind of flat 5 tunr sandwiched between the cap plates on top and to the upper 5 turn coil the other end of this coil is directly connected with the 20 tunr coil on the bottom copper pie and from this coil other end goes to the terminal block on the left side wich connects to the big cap. the lower portion of the center cap is connected to this terminal too I think. the big cap has one connection coming from the lower coil and the same plate is also connected to the motor and the meter the other plate is conneted to the [yramide frame , the motor and the negative of the meter ( this is if the whole szenario is tru the two meter wire could also be coming from a outside power source, this would be then the toal fake) this missing lead from the cebntral cap has baffeld me too and I believe it does not work as a cap it works like a receiver and comprimator thats why the black wire on top is wedged between the plates. I will see soon how this works out
greetings
walt

@ supersam, we have no alternative except to take the long road, unless of course you know a shorter road, in which case, please tell.
              My next step is to replicate the v4 as closely as possible. Looking at the photo on page one of this topic, There are 2 areas of confusion regarding the circuit. First is the area near the blue object on the left side of the copper tube. we now know there is a reed switch here operated by a magnet, and both of these are unnecessary. The other area is identifying the 2 output leads of the capacitor. [ note that the drawing on this page shows only one out put lead. One lead is obvious. A black wire exits the cap at top left and connects to the 5 turn coil via a terminal block. The
only other output lead is the bare wire at cap bottom left. I think it connects either to the reed switch and thus to the left graphite rod and the converter output. A second, less likely possibility is that it connects to the copper frame near the reed switch.
     Thus the circuit is; 2 graphite rods connect together and the output is taken from the left rod, another wire from left graphite goes to the big coil then the small coil, through the cap and back to the left graphite[ or possibly to copper frame] Opinions welcome

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #881 on: January 07, 2008, 11:16:41 PM »
Haven't read through all the posts, but i did notice everyone using perfect pyramids, without getting myself into another long conversation, My only contribution is that this started with the Egyptians, and considering we still to this day cannot build a structure 30 stories tall without a variance of 4 inches from centre top to centre bottom, with laser lines, and the pyramids are less than an inch out, they clearly were masters of design. that being said the pyramid angles on the perfect Egyptian pyramids is not a 45 slope but in the 50's forget off the top of my head, but it may be crucial.

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #882 on: January 08, 2008, 09:00:55 PM »
Hi Walt, and thanks for your input.However I am inclined to agree with Duffs post on the Yahoo site when ha says that the black wires visible at the upper corners of the central cap, are just to connect individual positive and individual negative plates. You idea of a coil interleaved with the plates is feasible. As always it is best for us all to try different ideas.Re the V4. Assuming the central cap plates are sized as in V6 [ and there may be only a total of 6 plates in the v4 cap] then the copper frame is considerably taller. we do not know the length of the graphite rods in v4, and there appears to be no saltwater drain holes. I am experimenting with a test tube full of sand, to try to create a formula to determine what quantity of saltwater will wet a given volume of sand. Thus I can put the saltwater in before the sand.
            Is anybody satisfied,or not, that they can demonstate any effect , however small, that happens inside the pyramid, but not outside.
           Also does anybody who has a theory about the origin  of "pyramid" energy" have a theory about the shape or direction  of the field, rays, etc inside the pyramid. The more we find out, the less we realise we know...

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #883 on: January 08, 2008, 09:29:39 PM »
Sure,

The origin of the theory the pyramids provided some form of current was made by one of the archeologists in the late 1800's early 1900s when he kept getting zapped by small electric shocks from the wine bottle from which he was drinking directly.

The theory was at the time that the wine acted like vinegar creating some form of battery, naturally batteries have to be charged, eluding to the possibility there was some form of magnetic or electrical field, this was further strengthed as a possibility when the clay jar batteries were found, with the terminal connections.

I am unsure if reproductions of the jars were ever made to test them, they are in one of the museums.

I personally believe that the effect is actual, based on the measurements of Giza etc having relevent measurements to the circumfrence of the earth, how they knew this is unknown, but i am sure that it is relevent hence my previous note on the angle, That being said, i suppose i should have noted that point in repect to the other dimensions as your starting point for size being scale.

I don't believe they invented an incandescent bulb, so my question was never did they work, but what did they use them for.

sorry bout the spelling, but the site spell checker doesn't seem to be working all the time lately, and time is more precious to me than grammer.

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #884 on: January 08, 2008, 09:43:06 PM »
these may be helpful to get your measurements and give you also some insight as to who else used them

http://cycle-of-time.net/43200.htm

http://www.gizapyramid.com/newton.htm