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Author Topic: First electrical power output from a Pyramid  (Read 414420 times)

Offline spacetrax

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #75 on: November 18, 2007, 08:24:42 AM »
Hi,
very nice that you came up again :-)
The first question that you should ask yourself - if your pyramid really works - is: do the mankind deserve to know the function principle? Every new device is a potential weapon in the hands of the usual (non-spiritual) people. If you look into the nature, the evolution of biological bodies of the animals was doubled by the evolution of the consciousness. A monkey is more conscious about its surroundings than a mouse is...
In my humble opinion, every invention should serve the evolution of consciousness - event if it serves to the wellbeing of the body, too.
I am not the kind of spiritual/religious freak, at all, I am just an aware observer of the nature...and I believe we should always keep an eye on the greater image of the wholeness, when we invent something.
Cheers!
Hello, my name is Thomas Trawoeger, and if you believe it or not, i am the inventor of the Pyramide. I found this website, because i am searching all few months for news about me. ;D

Well, allow me to tell you some very important things about me and my invention:

When i startet with my project in the internet, i was in hope to find some people to help me understannding the phenomenia.
But what happend? I found only people wich wanted to present my work as fake.

Nobody was able to give any clever comment, but everybody wanted Details, Plans and Schematics.

As we stopped the website trt-biopower.at, plenty of people cryed "fake", and even the Scientist of a great german Company tryed everything to bring the Idea into a deep grave.

So i did the best in this time. (even the same thing you should do with stocks) Turn around, and sleep...

In the last 2 Years we investet plenty of money to stop fake-presentations of my invention in the Internet.
So we stopped Mr. Nagels Fake on secret.tv and plenty of stupid postings with faked plans.
Even a Company in UK selled "original construction Plans" for my Pyramide....

Is that all you need????

Everybody wants to get a prove or a demonstration of the function. But nobody pleased for it.
I only heared: Show us, or you are a faker.....

Now i make the official Offer for everybody:
Tell me, why you believe, that your help is constructive for me, and i will invite you to me, to proof my Pyramide.
But it?s not very interesting for me if you say: Show me, and i will believe you.
(I?m not Jesus, and i dont sell any religion)

I wish you a nice discussion, and you can believe that i am the real one...
Mr. Pese should know, that it?s me..
 Yours sincerely
Thomas Trawoeger
(Mr. Flavio Thomas was a real Fake *maybe a wrong translation)



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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #75 on: November 18, 2007, 08:24:42 AM »

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #76 on: November 18, 2007, 09:27:05 AM »
@spacetracks: Your Post is the major Problem of my research. We don?t have any idea, from where the energy is comming.
We tryed the pyramide in different areas, and even in a pharaday Cage, but it works. (but we have differences in the Power)
We found out, that the pyramide works best in areas with bad energy lines in the floor. (Wasseradern) but it?s not possible for us to say anything about the effect itself.
It?s a little ugly to see something without any idea of the principe...
Since 2006 we don?t dearch for the principe, we only search for the increasing of Output.
yours sincerely
Thomas

PS. Sorry for my bad english ;)


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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #77 on: November 18, 2007, 10:38:09 AM »
Hi thomas,
you are absolutly right not everythings what we find that works can be explained now because we are just at the beginning of understanding nature. As inventor we should just work on the results and to make them better. during this process we understand more and more. I'f ben there and what should not matter is opinion from other people who just try to discourage others.
I believe that it works I am just interested to replicate it if I got time to work on it.
greetings
walt

@spacetracks: Your Post is the major Problem of my research. We don?t have any idea, from where the energy is comming.
We tryed the pyramide in different areas, and even in a pharaday Cage, but it works. (but we have differences in the Power)
We found out, that the pyramide works best in areas with bad energy lines in the floor. (Wasseradern) but it?s not possible for us to say anything about the effect itself.
It?s a little ugly to see something without any idea of the principe...
Since 2006 we don?t dearch for the principe, we only search for the increasing of Output.
yours sincerely
Thomas

PS. Sorry for my bad english ;)



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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #77 on: November 18, 2007, 10:38:09 AM »
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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #78 on: November 18, 2007, 10:46:12 AM »
Hi again,
this is quite impossible...if you found ways to increase the output you must have gained an idea about the working principle.  ::)  Maybe you just have not realised it yet...
Cheers!
@spacetracks: Your Post is the major Problem of my research. We don?t have any idea, from where the energy is comming.
We tryed the pyramide in different areas, and even in a pharaday Cage, but it works. (but we have differences in the Power)
We found out, that the pyramide works best in areas with bad energy lines in the floor. (Wasseradern) but it?s not possible for us to say anything about the effect itself.
It?s a little ugly to see something without any idea of the principe...
Since 2006 we don?t dearch for the principe, we only search for the increasing of Output.
yours sincerely
Thomas

PS. Sorry for my bad english ;)



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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #79 on: November 18, 2007, 10:47:16 AM »
That is FANTASTIC!

I do not know if I may be of constructive help to you and I?m not asking you to reveal the setup because I understand you do not want to reveal it.
However, since you are here, do you agree to provide some basic answers and guidance to those interested in walking along the path? I speak about simple questions like: what is the power density for a setup one can build at home without having your knowledge and experience; how to search for various effects (what are the critical requirements: pyramid size, materials, detection etc.); which would be a first setup you recommend for seeing/measuring something relevant?

I?m asking not only because I?d be interested but also because you were very right about the manipulation issue: the whole subject is so badly presented over internet that one can not distinguish between facts and lies.

I appreciate very much you being here and your willingness to cast some light on the subject.
Many, many thanks in advance,

Tinu


@spacetracks: Your Post is the major Problem of my research. We don?t have any idea, from where the energy is comming.
We tryed the pyramide in different areas, and even in a pharaday Cage, but it works. (but we have differences in the Power)
We found out, that the pyramide works best in areas with bad energy lines in the floor. (Wasseradern) but it?s not possible for us to say anything about the effect itself.
It?s a little ugly to see something without any idea of the principe...
Since 2006 we don?t dearch for the principe, we only search for the increasing of Output.
yours sincerely
Thomas

PS. Sorry for my bad english ;)



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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #79 on: November 18, 2007, 10:47:16 AM »
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Offline spacetrax

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #80 on: November 18, 2007, 10:52:11 AM »
Again posting :-)
Maybe your invention has the same energy source as the Stubblefield Battery, just yours is over the Earth surface. See here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3500.msg59769.html#msg59769

Cheers!
Tica

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #81 on: November 18, 2007, 10:55:23 AM »
G'day Thomas,

You say you have no idea where the energy is coming from.  FANTASTIC !!! This way lies knowledge. I will help wherever I can.

Hans von Lieven

http://www.keelytech.com will give you an idea what I am about in case you are interested. Auf deutsch gehts auch wenn du Fragen hast.
( If you have questions, German is OK.)

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Offline karl

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #82 on: November 18, 2007, 12:30:34 PM »
Hallo Thomas,

das h?tte ich nie gedacht da? die dich hier ins Forum kriegen.
Aber gut.
Besteht interesse an einer fusion in deinem Raum oder ist's zu hei? f?r diskussionen.
Wie ich hier sehen konnte sind die richtig forciert auf dich zugesteuert.
War dir das recht?
Ich habe noch mehr begeisterte Bekannte in meinem Umkreis.
Aber alles noch leere Theorien, ein paar wackelnde magnetpendel und ein paar gefrackte (und noch neue) Magnetmaterialien.
Alles gute f?r deine weiteren Entwicklungen.
Falls Du was brauchst (LC-Meter, Mu-Metall, Metaglas, Magnete etc.) kannst Du mich ja mal direkt in diesem Forum kontaktieren.
Ich bin nicht weit weg und halte meine Hand sch?tzend ?ber dich.

Viele sonnige Gr??e aus dem selben Land
kaRLfunkel

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #83 on: November 18, 2007, 12:42:35 PM »
Hallo nochmal,
aber eine der vern?nftigsten Erkl?rungen, die ich je in diesem Forum gelesen habe.
Wasseradern sind nat?rlich Leiter, die durchflossen werden.
Deshalb kann man auch um eine Wasserleitung ein magnetfeld generieren.
GUTGUTGUT.
Das wird dann quasistatisch sich langsam ?ndernd sein (mond-gekoppelt nat?rlich).
d.h. der Empf?ngerkreisschiebt sich mit einer Mondphase durch ein komplexes gebilde von minimas und maximas?
d.h. der Einflu? der Planetarenkr?fte k?nnte man aus dem empfangenen Signal mit Hilfe eines sternenkundigen herausfinden?
Kennst Du die Labortageb?cher von Thomas Townsend Brown?
Gravitative sich ?ndernde effekte lassen sich in jedem Material nachweisen, verst?rken oder gegenhalten.
Ich habe mal versuch mit Mineralien gemacht, die sich selbst aufladen und dann in einem bestimmten Schwingungsmuster leben.
Dazu habe ich LAGONA (Bio-Laden) Mt. Mourillionite Gesteinsmehl zwischen zwei Kondensatorplatten gekippt.
Die Schichtsilikate wandeln ?therdruckdifferenzen in eine kaskadierte Spannung um, die an der Oberfl?che abgenommen werden kann.
Nat?rlich auch alles Mondphasengekoppelt.
Na gut. Viel Gl?ck und frohes Schaffen.
Ich schau mal hier im Forum vorbei.
Viele Gr??e (immer noch Sonnenschein).
kaRLfunkel

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #84 on: November 18, 2007, 01:12:08 PM »
O.K.
Gibt's mal nen Workshop an einem Wochenende bei euch?
Ich will ja schon mal so'ne Kiste f?r meinen Garten.
Meine Ansicht dazu ist folgende.
Nach einem mir bekannten Schema ist die Pyramidenform eine Art Hornantenne f?r alle m?glichen Frequenzbereiche.
Schaltungstechnisch gibt's ne M?glichkeit zur Umwandlung der mehr oder weniger zuf?lligen Imulsartigen Signale in eine
schwingende oder dann gleichgerichtete Form.
Die Signale resultieren aus allen m?glichen kosmischen und irdischen Einfl?sse im Wechselspiel.
Besonderst die Signale, die bei blitzartigen Entladungen in der Stratosph?re entstehen sind interresant.
M?glicherweise kann man das in einem verkerkleinerten Aufbau und der Simulation mit einer geladenenPlatte ?ber der Spitze simulieren und dann Skalieren.
Interresantes Thema.
W?rde ich mich reinh?ngen.
Aber so viel Output?
Reicht das wirklich um den Ventilator zu betreiben?
Das ist enorm.
Wenn Du an einem Treffen bez?glich eines Informationsaustausches interresiert bist k?nnen wir ja mal die wirklichen e-mailadressen austauschen.
Viele Gr??e
karl

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #85 on: November 18, 2007, 02:19:33 PM »
Dear Thomas
As you can see,there is a big community of searchers.
And all of us like to share knowlege and learn of you.

For Mankind It is more importand then ever bevore,that Free Energy and Human Rights become planetised.
At the Time our Money as Taxes and Fees are used to feed kartells,which are trying to monopolise
Energy,Food & Nonfood Produktion ,and all Health Systems,and all kind of Marketing as well.
Governments sitting via the  Banks direkt at the Pumps and other sources to succing out all wealth
 of the peoples hands.
As you can imagine,i am not interestet in this kind of new worldorder,and many of my friends too.

For Example Chas Campbell,Dr.Stiffler,Dr.Bearden,EM devises,Harti,Bob Kosthoff,Bedini,Newman,La fontes,Denis,Gustav,OTTO,MEM
and many many others, had all ready opend there treasure chests and supply others with there knowlege.

I which as much as i can,and i beg you,that you came here,to become one of us.
"Welcome"
helmut

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #86 on: November 18, 2007, 04:00:22 PM »
Hello Mr. Trawoeger....
Can you explain us  why you dont want to show us the details of your device?. OUR PLANET needs the free energy because its near the ecological collapse!.If you expect that the governments will give us the tools to supply our energy problems,you are deceived...you cannot sell free energy,so you cannot earn money from it;This is the main problem,so they will never show us how to do!.
The revolution have to start from simple people that have gained some knowledge in this field,and this is the true spirit of this forum.Everyone have to take their own responsibilities toward OUR PLANET,included you!.Otherwise you have no coscience,and this is not the right place for you....

Regards,
Pegasus.

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #87 on: November 18, 2007, 06:00:20 PM »
Quote from: Thomas_Trawoeger
We found out, that the pyramide works best in areas with bad energy lines in the floor. (Wasseradern)


Dear Mr. Trawoeger,
Are you refering to underground water energy lines?  Years ago I did some pyramid experiments related to biomagnetism not to electric energy at all.  Experiments convinced me that there is something about the pyramids, but at the time I didn't know what to do next with it and stopped.  At the same time I was also involved with underground water search using divining rods but I never connected that force with pyramid.  Running water, earth battery and pyramid power might be the same thing.
George

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #88 on: November 18, 2007, 07:36:52 PM »

Mr. Trawoeger,

Could you give us a little history of the development of the pyramide.

You state that the Accu-loader was the Mother of your invention.

What types experiments were your originally doing and what anomalous effects were you observing?


Thanks,

-Duff

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #89 on: November 18, 2007, 07:42:04 PM »
Hello all: After swimming in warm water (thermal bath) i want to answer for some of Questions here.
Well, in reality i?m not very interrestet in peace, freedom ans some other ethic questions.
Live showed me, that it is only important to keep peace in the own house. :P
We tryed a lot with great Companys, political assholes and some real "good friends" with very religious ideas, but absolutely no technical Background.
When i made my great travels in 2006 and partwise in 2007, i saw a lot of this beautyful Planet, but it doesn?t matter where you go, everywhere you will find war, twilight and cruel.

I can swear you, that even the best invention will not make peace and freedom, and as i saw, the people are only interrestet to make money and you can believe me: Nobody wants to install Pyramides to solve energy-problems in this world.

The best offers we got from people wich only wants to bring the technology behind fat walls!

Thats the only true, and this is what made me a little carefully.

Of Course, the storys that we sold our invention in 2006 where true. But the Contract was broken from the other Side.
(It was written to provide this technologie and it was written, that the puplic will be informend about every Step.)

But what happened really?: Everything was top secret, and on the end, the nice guys told me, that they found out: there was no function anytime!..... But they cashed nice and brave more than 390.000 Euros in little portions for more than a year....

Well, we took the Contract to Judgement, and we won the right about our "Non functioned invention".
Now the other side was going to the Judge, because they found a function this Summer....

(This is like Children-Play)

Meanwhile, i am allowed to speak, and i will speak. But i don?t know, how i will make it right this time...

Maybe we will only communicate with Universitys, to find out where this power is coming from...
(But you will find no University for that Theme :-(

Maybe you have some idea, to solve this problem....

Maybe it would be really a good idea, to provide all plans here in the Internet, but what happens, if we do this????
believe me, the planet will not become more friendly...
Nice greeting
Tom



 

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