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Author Topic: First electrical power output from a Pyramid  (Read 459548 times)

Offline Tigrotto

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #165 on: November 21, 2007, 01:50:10 PM »
Hi everybody,
I just posted here the electric circuit I think would be .
Please, could someone answer to my question : Where to connect point E, please?

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #165 on: November 21, 2007, 01:50:10 PM »

Offline Tigrotto

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #166 on: November 21, 2007, 02:57:14 PM »
Hi everyboby,
In order to not have misunderstandings on V6 description::
Like many of our friends here, I'm a scientist (physicist) and I understood well what is understandable !
1. But, due to the fact that there are some details "out of common scientific logic", this is why I preffered to ask those of us that knows this maybe directly from Thomas.
this is why I drawed the electrical circuit and this is why I asked you kindly : Where to go from E-POINT?
2. Thoms said here many times asking for our patience. In the same time he posted the V6 .
I don't want to waste time if this time can be recovered, this is why I'll try these days to replicate the V6.
In order to do this  I need to know :
A. Is this circuit correct what i posted here?
B. Where comes E-POINT : At A,B,C or D???
Pretty simply questions askink no more than a few words if one knows precisely the answer, otherwise, patience.
If I'm the only one asking these two details doesn't mean I'm the only one working here. I repeat, maybe from a non-scientific point of view the things are easier to understand!
We are here to help us together. And I ask you very kindly your help.
As me, maybe others os us are trying now to replicate .
Thomas himself invited us to "transparence" , following his example.
If Thomas himself will find ten seconds to answer these questions,will be great.
I'm sure these answers are the among others answer too .However, he's the "first voice" in this Orchestra.
Thanks in advance,
Ovidiu

Offline Koen1

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #167 on: November 21, 2007, 03:07:01 PM »
Well I do agree that the description of where exactly E connects to could be clearer.

But what I find more interesting is that it appears to be a fairly simple galvanic stack, like Stefan already remarked, which oscillates the building charges.
If however it were merely a case of oscillating charges that are tapped by using the coils, one would expect a form of ac or pulsed dc, but apparently the output is dc with an occasional ac spike...
Besides that, it is claimed the magnet is necessary for the circuit to work... Which is a bit odd...

Another matter of interest is the granite/quartz connection... Is is necessary to have quartz and/or granite in the pyramid base? If so, and if it needs to be granite, then what role does it play?
And why the copper tubing?

I do not find the "new" descriptions any more revealing than the previous guesstimated circuit.

mr. Trawoeger, can you please give clarity on these subjects?

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #167 on: November 21, 2007, 03:07:01 PM »
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Offline starcruiser

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #168 on: November 21, 2007, 03:14:54 PM »
Hi everybody,
I just posted here the electric circuit I think would be .
Please, could someone answer to my question : Where to connect point E, please?


It appears that your second capacitor is wired incorrectly, the output is taken across the second capacitor. The hot side comes from the collector (hanging in the pyramid) and the ground is from the frame of the pyramid. "E" goes to "A" from what I can tell.

It appears that the 2 additional wires are for measurements. Hope this provides a bit of clarity.

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #169 on: November 21, 2007, 03:17:09 PM »
@tigrotto: Sorry, i can?t follow your problem. Your schematic is pretty nice, but where?s the problem to fix connector E?
Do you wait for the well roasted Birds flying into your open mouth?

There is only one possible point for Connection E. Try it, and you will see, I am right.

Better idea: Wait for the whole Community if we built the Pyramide together. You don?t waste time, because we have plenty of it.
(You can?t earn any honour, because there are running some pyramides in different areas <if it?s true, but i hope so>)

I will give answers to the right time for everybody at the same time.

@Koen1: Pleas read the Thread carefully. The most important things are written above.

lg, Tom

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« Reply #169 on: November 21, 2007, 03:17:09 PM »
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Offline Thomas_Trawoeger

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #170 on: November 21, 2007, 03:23:58 PM »
@tigrotto: Sorry, but your Diagram is absolutely not correct. Please edit or delete it. Nobody needs some plans with own interpretation, because there would be too much guys following this idea.
I am on the fast search for some translator for my description in english. It will declare everything.
(And if you have ?nderstood this, you can paint as much as you want)  :D
bye, Tom

Offline Pegasus

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #171 on: November 21, 2007, 03:33:27 PM »
"Oil closes in on $100 a barrel"
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/ca88b4fe-97ec-11dc-9e08-0000779fd2ac.html?nclick_check=1

I want to see the Bush face,when he will know that the petrol is no more useful.....
It will be a great personal satisfaction.... ;D ;D ;D

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #171 on: November 21, 2007, 03:33:27 PM »
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Offline Tigrotto

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #172 on: November 21, 2007, 03:34:51 PM »
Apologize to all!
I'll wait !
I didn't dare to hurt nobody here.


Offline Koen1

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #173 on: November 21, 2007, 03:37:10 PM »
"Oil closes in on $100 a barrel"
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/ca88b4fe-97ec-11dc-9e08-0000779fd2ac.html?nclick_check=1

I want to see the Bush face,when he will know that the petrol is no more useful.....
It will be a great personal satisfaction.... ;D ;D ;D

And this has what to do with the pyramid? Nothing? Ah, that explains why you posted it here... ?!

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #173 on: November 21, 2007, 03:37:10 PM »
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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #174 on: November 21, 2007, 03:53:39 PM »
Mine is little humor,whaiting the end of tyranny.  ;D
Maybe you havent calculated the conseguences of the new technology on global scale....

If the pyamids wil works,I suggest Mr.Trawoeger as winner of the Overunity Prize,just for his benevolence to the humankind...

Offline Pegasus

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #175 on: November 21, 2007, 04:14:51 PM »
A question to Mr.Trawoeger:It is just a casuality the the Grand Gallery of the Keops pyramid have almost the same angle of of your end capacitor?

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #175 on: November 21, 2007, 04:14:51 PM »
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Offline Pegasus

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #176 on: November 21, 2007, 04:24:06 PM »
http://www.rods.ru/Html/English/FrameStructure1.html

Strange use of familiar (to us) galvanic battery by ancients.....

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #177 on: November 21, 2007, 04:47:41 PM »
Mine is little humor,whaiting the end of tyranny.  ;D
Maybe you havent calculated the conseguences of the new technology on global scale....

Of course I have... But to any intelligent person it is clear that oil is a dead end. That is no reason to keep pointing out that oil is excssively expensive...

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If the pyamids wil works,I suggest Mr.Trawoeger as winner of the Overunity Prize,just for his benevolence to the humankind...
Well I would like to conclusively determine whether there is actual over unity going on before we do that  ;)
And it is not as if there are no other over unity devices out there already; the utilisation of environment temperature to produce a 135% c.o.p. for example in the Zaev Capacitor array (http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/nzaevncp.htm), or the mini-romag generator (http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/mromag.htm)...

Seems to me that we need to figure out where the energy comes from; is it tapping into the potential difference between ionosphere and earth, modulated by the 4 perpendicular axis of the pyramid antenna, and picked up by the coils around the capacitor? (as described in a research paper, I forgot the url) Does it also work in a Faraday cage? Is the magnet crucial to operation? Does the circuit also work with other oscilations (and without the pyramid)? Is the buildup of charge in the oscillating circuit similar to the experiments some people have been doing with capacitors and coils in a magnetic field (which appear to show a shorter self-charge time forthe caps), or is it specifically tailored to 'hook into' the pyramids' exact energy flow? What are the charateristics of said presumed 'energy flow' then? If this is the case, does that not mean that the energy is actually coming from the pyramid already, and that we are 'only' converting it?

The theory that ionospheric charges could generate a clock-like decaying sine wave in a coil wrapped around (or, obviously, inside) a metal pyramid due to the (self-)modulations of the electrostatic potential in the 4 perpendicular planes seems like a possibly viable explanation. But accoring to that theory to get any usefull amounts of energy one would have to build it quite large. On the other hand, the energy output of the pyramid is currently only enough to run a small fan, so it's not very much, and it might well be in line with said theory.
If that is where the pyramid draws its energy from, it is not actually an over unity device as it taps into the energy stored in the ionosphere... Just like geothermal energy is also not over unity. But yes, it might be a very usefull power source...  :)

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #178 on: November 21, 2007, 05:18:39 PM »
Hi,

you misunderstood the main point on your sketch, the salt water level is very low, so that it does NOT touch the graphit slabs. The salt water is only in the lower part of the assembly, otherwise it would be a galvanic battery, which it is not.
Cheers!

Apologize to all!
I'll wait !
I didn't dare to hurt nobody here.



Offline Tigrotto

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #179 on: November 21, 2007, 05:36:43 PM »
Hi to all,
Guys, please stop these messages by means of which we create confusion.
I mean messages trying to understand how to built the experiment.
I don't speak german,I know a little bit only;  but I translated all the text . Nevertheless, even if I understood all the sentence, it still miss some information.
I dare to say ( without give the name of persons to whom I spoke this day) , even among "old forum members " there is a lot of confusion regarding important details of the setup. It's the reality that can not be made in doubt!
This lead me to the conclusion that only Thomas knows all about what he posted on his site ( V6).
Untill Thomas will explain us this missing information, let's don't "reinvent" his invention, please!
I did a mistake and I understood why. I'm an impatient person and i loose a lot in my life about this! :-[
Everyone of us are "impatient". As much we're impatient , as much we risk to create confusion. And the most important point is that Thomas don't like ( my own opinion) as we create confusion.
We risk to collapse all this great Group experiment Thomas is about to start with everyone of us, not for money, but for us and for many many others after us!
All I posted here are only my own thoughts!
Ovidiu
 

 

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