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Offline pese

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #105 on: November 19, 2007, 01:27:53 PM »
This is like christmas,
Thomas many thanks for your tune in.
Here a few Links with datas about this task.
Something for the warm evenings bofore we start:
Basic Informations
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Pyramidal_Electric_Transducer
Grandics paper
http://www.freeenergynews.com/Directory/Pyramid/GrandicsIE73.pdf
Grandics patent
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=6,974,110.PN.&OS=PN/6,974,110&RS=PN/6,974,110

Frohes Schaffen
Karl
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Der letzte Link  (Patent)
auf Google , mit Bildern , auch als PDF (abspeicherbar)
Gruss
Pese

http://www.google.de/patents?id=tncUAAAAEBAJ&dq=6,974,110

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #105 on: November 19, 2007, 01:27:53 PM »

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #106 on: November 19, 2007, 02:27:18 PM »
Just curious Thomas,

It's great that you are, but why are you here?

From your last website letter you clearly state that this invention is now a closed topic, and you can not discuss much about it.

Believing that this company that clearly now has control over your invention will eventually release it to the public in one form or the other, is quite naive....it hasn't happened yet, and there have been several similar occurances like this in the past with other inventions and discoveries.

I'm afraid that as long as you have handed over control of your discovery to some industrial interest, your invention will never see the light of day.

Disclosing your invention publicly would have been the fastest and surest way of seeing it becoming developed in efficiency and scale, and for it to stay in the public domain.

Alas, it is but too late.

Steven Mark's TPU is a perfect example of what happens when you hand over the technology (for token payment) to a company that convinces you your discovery will be developed and marketed.

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #107 on: November 19, 2007, 03:33:14 PM »
Just curious Thomas,

It's great that you are, but why are you here?

From your last website letter you clearly state that this invention is now a closed topic, and you can not discuss much about it.

Believing that this company that clearly now has control over your invention will eventually release it to the public in one form or the other, is quite naive....it hasn't happened yet, and there have been several similar occurances like this in the past with other inventions and discoveries.

I'm afraid that as long as you have handed over control of your discovery to some industrial interest, your invention will never see the light of day.

Disclosing your invention publicly would have been the fastest and surest way of seeing it becoming developed in efficiency and scale, and for it to stay in the public domain.

Alas, it is but too late.

Steven Mark's TPU is a perfect example of what happens when you hand over the technology (for token payment) to a company that convinces you your discovery will be developed and marketed.


He said that a company did have control over his pyramid, but that company didn't have ANY plans to commercialize his pyramid technology and decided to try to just bury his pyramid technology, which was against their agreement. So, Thomas and company took them to court and won. So, now there is NO agreements and there is NO company that can bury his pyramid technology. So, it isn't like the TPU.


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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #107 on: November 19, 2007, 03:33:14 PM »
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Re: IMPORTANT UPDATE !
« Reply #108 on: November 19, 2007, 03:41:21 PM »
Hello all:
First of all, i want to thank all the people here for the serious speak in this forum.
(I could tell you from older times and other forums..)

So i am happy, that  i found this community here.

But some of the old problems are still alive. Plenty of Contacts and plenty of Questions.
(Well, this is absolutely normal, but it could give some conflicts because i have a Job, and not too much time under the week)

The last two years showed us, that it is impossible to find a fair industrie for marketing this idea.
So i think, it will be the best, to swap the invention here in the Internet.

We will start in the first week of december to give you a detailed step by step Plan to construct pyramides everywhere in the world.
And everybody with a little feeling in Technic and Tools should be able to construct his own pyramide.
So everybody can proof the System, and maybe we can construct a small Community, where everybody is able to help the others...

I will construct a pyramide with plenty of pictures, measures, and so we can make it togehter and Online.
Its also possible to find some area in the Internet, where we can discuss problems and sucsess in a kind of Forum.

This will stop all problems with marketing, nobody will be the great Star, and so we have a good tool against all kind of Fakers.

Nobody can tell the world, that he is the great inventor of this idea, because it is fully opened in the Internet.
And maybe, we can show the Industry the long finger, because they can?t put the Idea into the grave...

I know, this is not in the interest of a few guys here, but it is the best for the great mass....
yours sincerely
Thomas Trawoeger

PS. We will broadcast all the news, and the location of our Project here just in Time!...
So please stop to  ask me for Plans and Datails. You have my word, that you will get it.
We only want to make it secure, and without any problems with any laws....


I couldn't be any happier to see this Thomas!

Please don't be discouraged by anyone who would speak bad about you or your technology, or people that are very skeptical of your technology.

I am very happy that you have chosen to Open Source your pyramid technology. Even if all you wanted to show us was a smaller pyramid that only put out a few Watts, that would make EVERYONE here, the true free energy researchers, SO HAPPY, because we could finally have a concrete example of a working free energy device! This alone is worth more than anything in the world. To be able to have a device that we build from your instructions in our hands would mean the world to us!

I assure you, you will certainly be known as the true inventor of this technology, even when you release it for the world to see.

You have no idea how much this would mean to me, that you would so generously release the details of your technology, this is a truly courageous thing!

I patiently await the first week of December. This will be a Holiday to remember...

Thank you Thomas!
« Last Edit: November 19, 2007, 04:51:22 PM by tao »

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #109 on: November 19, 2007, 03:58:34 PM »

I totally agree with you TAO!!

Regards,

Mike

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #109 on: November 19, 2007, 03:58:34 PM »
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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #110 on: November 19, 2007, 06:20:34 PM »
Thanks for bringing me up to speed. Apologies to Thomas.

Glad to see he was able to win his technology back from their clutches.

Looking forward to seeing some details.

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Be carefull, Thomas
« Reply #111 on: November 19, 2007, 06:44:57 PM »
Hi Thomas,
I'm kindly advising you to be carefull in sgaring the information about your GREAT offer you'll do for the "Free Energy Community of Researchers".
I mean:
You told us everybody that at the beginning of December you'll start to disclose all about your invention.
I don't like to be persone preventing you to do this.
I imagine between us, men having hobby the pyramids, there are not persons thinking in a different manner!
Beware of politicians !
It sounds like a joke what i'm saying here , but... could happens.
My advise is ( and aplogize because I dared to give you an advise!):
Limit your Forum "exits" to a limited number of Forums!
It's up to you deciding!
Ovidiu Petria ( Italy)

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« Reply #111 on: November 19, 2007, 06:44:57 PM »
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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #112 on: November 19, 2007, 06:47:19 PM »
Well Guys, so we will do it :-)
i reserved a special Website (small and secure), and i will give you the Link as soon as we can put in the Content.

There are only 3 Questions:
1.) My english is a little poor, and so we have to decide, if we provide the Info in english or in german.
(any comments?)

2.)Is it possible to check the personality of a websiteuser without Credit-Card or something else?
(we want to give access only to real persons <fake-defense>)
(any comments?)

3.) Is there any idea to hold my impressum silent, Phone and Mail got a little stressy the last hours....
(impressums are necessary to hold a website legal, bur i know from older times the negative sides of this..)

yours sincerely
Tom

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #113 on: November 19, 2007, 07:10:27 PM »
Good questions Thomas,

You might want to understand that false identities can be made up, even with credit cards and the like, so how can this really work?

I vote for english, but that is because I do not speak or read German! if the vast majority want German, I guess I will need to use a translator program or site.

these are my thoughts, comments. I am looking forward to seeing your site and the info to allow me to perform a replication. Good Luck.

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #113 on: November 19, 2007, 07:10:27 PM »
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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #114 on: November 19, 2007, 07:14:55 PM »
ummm .. your going to release the information to open source .. but .. you are going to have a credit card validation ... and you are going to release the information bit by bit .. not as a whole plan ... all i can say is.. whaa hahaahahaha ... scam !!!!!!!!

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #115 on: November 19, 2007, 07:16:14 PM »
Hi Thomas,

I would recommend you do two things.

A)  Continue with your plans for the website disclosure (hopefully in English)

B) At the same time give all information you wish to disclose to someone like Stefan Hartmann here at Overunity.com

Many of us here at OU.com can build your pyramid and have all the tools to do it.
Also, time is very important now that you have made your intentions known to disclose how to make your pyramid generator. Many thanks to you Thomas!

Regards,

Dan

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #115 on: November 19, 2007, 07:16:14 PM »
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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #116 on: November 19, 2007, 07:17:23 PM »
i cannot imagine how the language would be relevant in a concise set of technical drawings ???

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #117 on: November 19, 2007, 08:26:55 PM »
Hi everybody,
My opinion is :
1. Language: Let Thomas decide upon. I dare to ask him to give both languages if this will be not a great task for him. All of us will start from the same line!!!
Stefan Hartmann it looks like to have a much better English!!! Maybe could help you to translate! Not offens, Thomas!
2. I propose a method of "registration " directly at Thomas. I think about this and the final method i'll let you know this evening ( night). Limited number of persons ( decided by Thomas himself), otherwise, Thomas will really "collapse" under the pressure of questions!!!
3. None will be allowed to write to Thomas, but only among us.
Thomas will have a "buffer person" ( why not Stefan Hartmann !) gathering questions of the same content and periodically will ask you.
Comments?
Moreover, what is the Thomas's opinion!

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #118 on: November 19, 2007, 08:33:27 PM »
Well Guys, so we will do it :-)
i reserved a special Website (small and secure), and i will give you the Link as soon as we can put in the Content.

There are only 3 Questions:
1.) My english is a little poor, and so we have to decide, if we provide the Info in english or in german.
(any comments?)

2.)Is it possible to check the personality of a websiteuser without Credit-Card or something else?
(we want to give access only to real persons <fake-defense>)
(any comments?)

3.) Is there any idea to hold my impressum silent, Phone and Mail got a little stressy the last hours....
(impressums are necessary to hold a website legal, bur i know from older times the negative sides of this..)

yours sincerely
Tom



Thomas, this sounds great!

1. I would prefer in English, myself, but I could always use software to translate from German if need be.

2. It will be hard to verify a real person, since so many things can be faked, even credit cards. I don't think that credit cards would be a good idea because many people just won't join because of it. Personally, I am willing to do whatever it takes. Paypal could always be used. I could for instance PayPal you $1 and with this, you could verify my personal information. It isn't perfect, but it does save us from having to hand out credit card information or something like that. I understand that you have seen a lot of fakes and people selling fake devices based on your work and that is not right, so I understand why you want to first only release your detailed construction plans to REAL PEOPLE. So, I am with you in this Thomas, whatever it takes!

3. Do you mean that a lot of people tried to call you and mail you and you wish to now minimize this? I suggest that you keep your new secure site without much information on the pages for contact, don't put email or phone information anywhere on the site, perhaps just have a login screen for the site's opening page. Then, on the secure pages, you can place some of this information.


I look forward to working with you on replications Thomas!

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #119 on: November 19, 2007, 08:34:52 PM »

Hi Thomas,


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i reserved a special Website (small and secure), and i will give you the Link as soon as we can put in the Content.

I'm not sure what you mean by small website.

You certainly want to consider your bandwidth and the load the server may encounter. I suspect news of this will spread like wildfire and you may end up with many people hitting the website.

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1.) My english is a little poor, and so we have to decide, if we provide the Info in english or in german.
(any comments?)

I have not had any problems understanding what you have written. I also hope you will choose english.


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2.)Is it possible to check the personality of a websiteuser without Credit-Card or something else?
(we want to give access only to real persons <fake-defense>)
(any comments?)

I agree with starcruiser, it is almost impossible to validate identity. You might require real user names rather than aliases, but again there is no assurance as to the real identity.


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3.) Is there any idea to hold my impressum silent, Phone and Mail got a little stressy the last hours....
(impressums are necessary to hold a website legal, bur i know from older times the negative sides of this..)

Sounds like a messy situation.

State that you will only respond through the website and emails will be deleted.

Change your phone number and give it out only to trusted individuals.


Regards,

-Duff

 

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