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Author Topic: First electrical power output from a Pyramid  (Read 440111 times)

Offline ytinurevo

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #1035 on: June 20, 2010, 09:07:37 PM »
Why don't YOU do that and post your results?
One reason is because I still don't have the english transcription of the german video to learn how the system works. All links I found are dead.

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #1035 on: June 20, 2010, 09:07:37 PM »

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #1036 on: June 21, 2010, 07:22:28 AM »
One reason is because I still don't have the english transcription of the german video to learn how the system works. All links I found are dead.

http://www.rexresearch.com/trawoeger/pyramid.pdf

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #1037 on: June 22, 2010, 09:42:20 AM »
http://www.rexresearch.com/trawoeger/pyramid.pdf
Okay great, thanks.
So Thomas knew about the North etc.

I have read the topic's pages from 1 to 49.
I learned that Thomas joined the forum and posted instructions on how to build the V6 of his system. He set up a website (now closed) planning to create a small community and help it make a successful replica but the site got hacked over and over, then he was blocked from this forum, in the main time he (?) opened a yahoo group that had big activity in december 2007/january 2008. Thomas posted only once there for an unknown reason. Still on that group, user tapier21 said that he got 0,91V and user mr_art_vandeley  said that to keep Giza's ratio you had to use dimensions of 1x1m base x0,9537m edge (instead of 1x1x1m as Thomas said) - what's up with all that ?
On the group you'll find all V6 files (instructions, drawings, photos).

I quite don't understand Thomas' attitude, he always said that he was going to give full V6 and V12 instructions no matter the threats against him, but he never did and he never said he was abandoning to save his family or anything.
In a case like this, when you are threatened, the purpose of the threat is to make you not do something, but if you do it (publish full instructions) then there is no more reason to threaten you or even punish you. It seems that the threats he received where not serious because instead of doing what they said they will do (I don't know what it was, something like beating him up) they stole stuff in his garage and destroyed computer data !

Another explanation for the global failure could be that the Thomas on the forum and the yahoo group has never been the real Thomas but an agent from Siemens, the only kind of people able to understand the system and thus give wrong building instructions to bury the project (which is what happened).

In any case, I believe in the power of the pyramid and I believe it's possible to convert it to electricity.
I'm even starting to think that the Giza pyramid what nothing else but a power plant.
If Thomas' pyramid with a volume of 0,2357m3 got 19,22W then the Giza pyramid with a volume of 2592341m3 would have had a power of 211388698W (1/4 of our power plant but it could be 10 times more since they mastered the science and Thomas didn't really)

By the way, did any frenchman work on this system ?

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #1037 on: June 22, 2010, 09:42:20 AM »
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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #1038 on: June 22, 2010, 07:32:36 PM »

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #1039 on: June 22, 2010, 11:37:29 PM »
You will have a lot of problems to determine if your results are from the electric field of earth or from radiostations... unfortunately it makes experimentation hopeless because if you try to isolate and put aluminium foil around your setup to prevent radio station waves, you will also most likely exclude earth electricity as well  :(

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Offline NickZ

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #1040 on: June 23, 2010, 06:00:30 AM »
     @ All:
      Aether energy which the pyramid is focusing towards the center is similar to the effect of a magnifying lens focusing the suns rays.  And may not be affected by aluminum as that metal is not magnetic. Although Aether energy is also more than just magnetism,  it is equally found outside the pyramid as well as inside of it, but is more concentrated or condensed in the center by the spiraling effect and power of the vortex.
  I have spent about 1/3 of my life sleeping inside a 7 foot pyramid that is placed over my bed,  and can say that the pyramid structure in general and its as yet untapped powers are still a mystery to me.
   I think that there is still much more to be learned and rediscovered about those geometrical energy forms and what they can really do. 
   As far as the possibility of the production of electricity goes, I would think and it has been shown to a small degree, that there is a very good chance of that too.  But the secret purpose(s) and function of the Pyramids of Giza is still to be discovered, which I feel is now getting closer by the day, to being known by all. 
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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #1041 on: June 25, 2010, 01:53:24 AM »
fritz said:
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Take a look at this patent:
http://www.faqs.org/patents/app/20080315587
This patent application number exists, but the drawings aren't included for free with the text.

Here's the whole application at:   http://www.pat2pdf.org

http://www.pat2pdf.org/patents/pat20080315587.pdf

Personally, I would have added an coil to the top of the pyramid to see how that affected output.

Take a look at:

http://www.rexresearch.com/grandics/grandics.htm

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #1041 on: June 25, 2010, 01:53:24 AM »
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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #1042 on: June 25, 2010, 04:16:16 AM »
  @ All:
    Although I do think that the energy from a pyramid can be tapped, I would like to see a real working model first , but not one that needs all kinds of additional sources connected to the grid, or batteries to make it produce anything.  If the pattents are valid, why are they being ignored, as these pattents and ideas have been out for years now.  Or, have I been missing something?
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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #1043 on: June 25, 2010, 05:25:56 AM »
Quote from: NickZ link=topic=695.msg246542#msg246542 =1277432176
  @ All:
    Although I do think that the energy from a pyramid can be tapped, I would like to see a real working model first , but not one that needs all kinds of additional sources connected to the grid, or batteries to make it produce anything.  If the pattents are valid, why are they being ignored, as these pattents and ideas have been out for years now.  Or, have I been missing something?
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At the risk of sounding cynical, these patents may actually work, since they need verifiable test results to back up claims.  However, if the Gov't wants people to be dependent on fossil fuel and the political power that these politicians maintain over the population, then worthwhile patents will be *ignored* forever.  They, the politicians,  don't want anyone to be independent or self-reliant.

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #1043 on: June 25, 2010, 05:25:56 AM »
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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #1044 on: June 25, 2010, 05:54:45 AM »
Lee:

I respectfully disagree.  If indeed this did work and was exposed on OU.com, as well as other research sites, I would hope that replications would travel like wildfire and no one could stop that.  Since this did not happen, I have to conclude that there was nothing here really.

I may be wrong, I hope I am wrong and will be the first to admit it.  But, if there were really something to this, I should think we would all know about it.

I am not trying to be contrary here at all, this is just my opinion.

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #1045 on: June 25, 2010, 06:14:37 AM »
....
Personally, I would have added an coil to the top of the pyramid to see how that affected output.

Take a look at:

http://www.rexresearch.com/grandics/grandics.htm

--Lee

Thank you Lee,

In all that research I do not remember anybody putting a coil around the outside, nor making the entire pyramid out of aluminum.
It was very different.
This seems possible and feasible.

And I agree about putting the coil on the top outside.

I made a couple of conical coils in a way that is sort of described on those pages, and I described them in these 2 videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84jr0GlYvYA
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9fbn01_clA

At the time I was getting lots of great and usable voltage spikes from just the plain joule thief secondary, so I never pursued it.

The thing here is that the voltage source could be from static charge.
I guess the build must be bigger than 1 foot square, because in his trial he used an outside source High voltage generator.
In this thread TT said 3 feet on the base, I believe, but it was very different with that galvanic thing going on inside.
This paper seems totally different. (and worth a try)

thank you,

jeanna

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #1045 on: June 25, 2010, 06:14:37 AM »
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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #1046 on: June 25, 2010, 04:56:46 PM »
  @ Lee:
   I did try to make the 6 foot pyramid design a couple of years ago, following as best I could on the patent. As I already had the 6.5' foot copper tube pyramid, and made some coils for it. But, it is not an easy venture, as it requires tuning to resonance, and I for one did not have any results.  That of course does not mean that it can't be done, but I would need to see a real working model with some real specific parts and instructions,  to give it another go at it.   But Not one that needs all the test instruments to make it work.  I do see some possibility though, and think that it's worth trying.  As there have been no follow-ups on the 6 foot design, and it did come out a few years ago, I would think that there may be more to it than meets the eye.  Same goes with most patents about electric or magnetic generator designs. There is always some information missing, and so it has been impossible to replicate any of them. 
  If you have any luck with it, please let us know,  I'll be glad to get involved, as I am interested, but will not try again until there is more proof,  and a true working model.
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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #1047 on: June 25, 2010, 09:10:52 PM »
Lee:
I respectfully disagree.  If indeed this did work and was exposed on OU.com, as well as other research sites, I would hope that replications would travel like wildfire and no one could stop that.  Since this did not happen, I have to conclude that there was nothing here really.
Point taken.  We can all express our opinion.  But, people who complain can become unwelcome targets.  Have you heard of Karen Silkwood?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_Silkwood

This can happen to anyone who becomes a big enough problem to "vested interests".  The Gov't has the guns and the law on their side.  As King David and the Apostle Paul said, in effect, No man is good enough.  All are evil.  That goes for law enforcement, the military and politicians as well.
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I am not trying to be contrary here at all, this is just my opinion.
Sure.  I merely take a different opinion based on personal experience which I choose not to discuss in further detail.
But, I recognize you're a Moderator and I can accept your opinion for that reason.  With a few exceptions (occasional insults and arguments from a few Members), anyone can present their opinion here at OU.  Let's all learn something.

--Lee

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #1048 on: June 25, 2010, 09:19:47 PM »
@jeanna
You made some good points with respect to your Reply #1045.  The place I'm borrowing a computer on has a policy of not watching YouTube videos (inappropriate for some children--this is the Salvation Army).  There's another site with headphones available I can go to next week, so I can generate a better response to your post.

In the meantine, it occurs to me that there's a lot of possible experimentation to be done with various versions of this invention and general design.

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Re: First electrical power output from a Pyramid
« Reply #1049 on: June 25, 2010, 09:54:32 PM »
  @ Lee:
   I did try to make the 6 foot pyramid design a couple of years ago, following as best I could on the patent. As I already had the 6.5' foot copper tube pyramid, and made some coils for it. But, it is not an easy venture, as it requires tuning to resonance, and I for one did not have any results.  That of course does not mean that it can't be done, but I would need to see a real working model with some real specific parts and instructions,  to give it another go at it.   ....
  If you have any luck with it, please let us know,  I'll be glad to get involved, as I am interested, but will not try again until there is more proof,  and a true working model.
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Nick,
I am going to look for some still I might have made when I made that video, so I can show lee.
I want to describe what I saw, because it fits with the comments Peter Grandics made on the rex website article.

I made a conical shaped bifilar coil to append to the "secondary" of a joule thief circuit.
It is basically a pancake coil pulled down into a cone shape.

I connected the end of one wire to the beginning of the other wire as you do with a pancake coil.
I got low to moderate results.
But then, I put the toroid onto the tip of the cone and it took off.

So, when it was working it looked like the wardencliff tower in shape and proportions.

OK?
to sum it up...

The jtc produces pulses in the toroid.
I wind about 6 additional turns around the same toroid to magnetically collect those pulses, and
attach the 6 turns to the open ends of the conical pancake coil and,
place the toroid on the tip of the cone.

I showed a complex and very active scope shot.
(I think it tunes itself and 'finding' resonance is not necessary.)

Peter describes that the electrostatic charge is wrapping over the pyramid and he adds a small capacitor coil around the tip of the pyramid to collect and utilize the e-static charge.

I hope this explains it well enough to be helpful.

thank you,

jeanna

 

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