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Title: PLEASE PUT WORKING CIRCUITS only HERE (for everybody please give a share)
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 03, 2009, 02:19:49 PM
Hi everyone

I always want to try build new working circuits, now i encourage everybody to get different circuits from different threads, and put them here so that everyone will benefit, just a matter of copy and paste  ;)

AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, CIRCUIT MUST BE WORKING AND COMPLETE.  ;D

and that simple move will be a great help to anyone okay  ;)


i beleive this will work if everyone will make a move.


God bless to all of you and thank you
Tito L. Oracion
Title: Re: PLEASE PUT WORKING CIRCUITS only HERE (for everybody please give a share)
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 03, 2009, 02:35:46 PM
i love this circuit thats y i always want to share this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnJFonvzr1E


very simple and working!


God bless
otits
Title: Re: PLEASE PUT WORKING CIRCUITS only HERE (for everybody please give a share)
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 03, 2009, 02:44:42 PM
very obvious free energy


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwvqYAIRDsM



God bless
otits
Title: Re: PLEASE PUT WORKING CIRCUITS only HERE (for everybody please give a share)
Post by: gyulasun on March 03, 2009, 09:06:00 PM
i love this circuit thats y i always want to share this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnJFonvzr1E


very simple and working!


God bless
otits


Hi,

The circuit shown in the video works indeed as introduced.   There is one problem however.

Its microwatt or milliwatt output power comes mainly from broadcast stations antennas' electromagnetic energy furnished in by other people. 
Obviously some other manmade energy sources like the 50 or 60 Hz mains network can also induce power in the above circuit. 
If you could arrange all the world's manmade energy sources stop for a few minutes, the circuit would not give any output power worth of mentioning.

So sorry to say but this circuit produces no free energy in the true sense of "our mission" here on this forum.

Utilizing 'green' natural energy sources like wind or ocean wave or waterfall or geothermic etc. energies is one good way for mankind to survive...

rgds,  Gyula
Title: Re: PLEASE PUT WORKING CIRCUITS only HERE (for everybody please give a share)
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on March 04, 2009, 01:42:39 PM
If you could arrange all the world's manmade energy sources stop for a few minutes, the circuit would not give any output power worth of mentioning.

So sorry to say but this circuit produces no free energy in the true sense of "our mission" here on this forum.



Hi sir, good day

i beleive what you have said, but the reality is that we cannot stop them all so why not tapping what they throw its free, and i beleive that we can amplify that no matter how small it is, and i beleive our mission here is to learn how to tap and how to make it big. even the earth contributes with this noise and this is just a starting point.

Even Nikola tesla dream about this remember?  8)

anyway thanks for your response  ;D

God bless  ;)
otits

   
Title: Re: PLEASE PUT WORKING CIRCUITS only HERE (for everybody please give a share)
Post by: Peculian on March 18, 2011, 01:08:53 PM
If you could arrange all the world's manmade energy sources stop for a few minutes, the circuit would not give any output power worth of mentioning.

I do not agree with this saying.sorry.
Everyone knows that Planet Earth is a living planet and such has in it`s own self
oscilations or else life could not be possible.
If you do not believe this,than ask biologists.they know some more about these facts.
The only manmade "serious threat'' is ELF VLF frequencies aka HAARP - like project.

One more thing to consider is radiation comming to our planet from all around Universe.
Where do you people think Th.H.Moray "received" his cold-form of electricity ?
Have you read what Tesla himself sayed about Earth "is like a giant capacitor" ?
Regards.
Title: Re: PLEASE PUT WORKING CIRCUITS only HERE (for everybody please give a share)
Post by: MrMag on March 18, 2011, 05:02:01 PM
Hi everyone

I always want to try build new working circuits, now i encourage everybody to get different circuits from different threads, and put them here so that everyone will benefit, just a matter of copy and paste  ;)

AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE, CIRCUIT MUST BE WORKING AND COMPLETE.  ;D

and that simple move will be a great help to anyone okay  ;)


i beleive this will work if everyone will make a move.


God bless to all of you and thank you
Tito L. Oracion

It is funny that you started this thread. You want everyone to post their working circuit here but you also claim to have found OU yourself. Will you also be posting your OU device or do you just want everyone else to post theirs?
Title: Re: PLEASE PUT WORKING CIRCUITS only HERE (for everybody please give a share)
Post by: Magluvin on March 18, 2011, 09:31:16 PM
Hey Mr mag

Maybe Tito forgot about this one. ;]

And here is the thread. It is only 2 pages.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=5975.15

This should make interesting conversation here, considering. ;]


Mags
Title: Re: PLEASE PUT WORKING CIRCUITS only HERE (for everybody please give a share)
Post by: gyulasun on March 18, 2011, 11:52:26 PM
I do not agree with this saying.sorry.
Everyone knows that Planet Earth is a living planet and such has in it`s own self
oscilations or else life could not be possible.
If you do not believe this,than ask biologists.they know some more about these facts.
The only manmade "serious threat'' is ELF VLF frequencies aka HAARP - like project.

One more thing to consider is radiation comming to our planet from all around Universe.
Where do you people think Th.H.Moray "received" his cold-form of electricity ?
Have you read what Tesla himself sayed about Earth "is like a giant capacitor" ?
Regards.

Hi Peculian,

Thanks for reflecting on my post.  If you read carefully, I had referred to a particular circuit shown in the video, in this link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnJFonvzr1E Tito provided earlier, where a long wire antenna was connected to an Avramenko plug (in which the diodes are connected to make a voltage doubler rectification). Diodes type was Germanium 1N34, they normally are able to conduct current above 10-15 milliVolt or so forward voltages.
The shown circuit has nothing to do with that of Tesla or Moray. Tesla wrote about receiving 'radiating' energy from space that may come from everywhere, from stars, from the Sun, from distant celestial bodies etc, you also mentioned this.
IF you consider the frequency of these radiations from space, it surely starts from the lower edge of the microwave bands and goes up visible and unvisible light frequencies and beyond.  I also agree that Tesla dealt with energy 'contained' in the atmosphere, manifesting as lightnings during thunderstorms etc.

Now please consider the spec for 1N34 diodes, though they are very wideband rectifiers indeed, spreading from very low ELF to VHF and lower UHF bands but they are surely "blind" in the microwave bands and beyond where radiations from space are mostly known to come.
And Tesla did not include any diode in his circuits he patented for receiving energy radiation from space. 
Also, during a thunderstorm the 1N34 diodes may get very easily 'cooked' due to the extrem energies involved, these diodes were designed for dealing with maximum some hundred milliWatts or less.

Regarding Moray, I do not know exactly what circuit he had inside his enclosed wooden box. Yes I read the descriptions and witnesses writings, and he surely used an antenna wire (and a ground) connection. He took out several kiloWatts from his box as the witnesses testified it. So I believe Moray was a genius to stumble upon the right material (a kind of mineral) which was able to convert a (probably very wide band) radiation (coming from either the atmosphere or space) to lower frequencies which were already managable by resonant LC tank circuits etc. (Some people speculate Moray used some radioactive materials too, for amplifying the tiny input from the antenna to the kW range.)
I do not think that the Moray circuit even if we do not know his exact setup, could be like the one shown in the above video.

These are briefly the reasons why I wrote for the circuit in the video that its antenna must have collected man-made radiation (coming from AC power lines, radio and television etc. transmitters) simply because the 1N34 diodes are not able to convert those types of radiations I mentioned in connection with Tesla and Moray.
I do not deny that energy can come from space or from the Earth or from its atmosphere. I simply cannot accept that the rectifier circuit shown in the video is able to receive any such energy, that is all.

Thanks,  Gyula
Title: Re: PLEASE PUT WORKING CIRCUITS only HERE (for everybody please give a share)
Post by: Omnibus on March 19, 2011, 12:03:56 AM
@gyulasun,

All is well and good when you say that output power comes mainly from broadcast stations antennas' electromagnetic energy furnished in by other people. However, you probably forget that here: http://actascientiae.org/v/comments.php?DiscussionID=9&page=1#Item_4 the OU is genuine and dos not come from extraneous sources. Of course, you’ll say that it’s not what you’re talking about. However, why not talk about something that is rather than talk about something that isn’t? I guess that was Tito’s intention to begin with.
Title: Re: PLEASE PUT WORKING CIRCUITS only HERE (for everybody please give a share)
Post by: MrMag on March 19, 2011, 01:41:30 AM
@gyulasun,

All is well and good when you say that output power comes mainly from broadcast stations antennas' electromagnetic energy furnished in by other people. However, you probably forget that here: http://actascientiae.org/v/comments.php?DiscussionID=9&page=1#Item_4 the OU is genuine and dos not come from extraneous sources. Of course, you’ll say that it’s not what you’re talking about. However, why not talk about something that is rather than talk about something that isn’t? I guess that was Tito’s intention to begin with.

Sorry, but quoting your own forum doesn't necessarily mean that it's proof of OU. If it is actually OU, what can you do with it? The amount is so minuscule it is pretty much useless.
Title: Re: PLEASE PUT WORKING CIRCUITS only HERE (for everybody please give a share)
Post by: Omnibus on March 19, 2011, 01:48:19 AM
It's not the quoting of whatever that matter. The facts matter and the facts indicate that it's the only instance of unequivocally demonstrated OU in an electrical circuit. That's what is significant. Scaling it is a detail.
Title: Re: PLEASE PUT WORKING CIRCUITS only HERE (for everybody please give a share)
Post by: MrMag on March 19, 2011, 04:58:58 AM
It's not the quating of whatever that matter. The fact matter and the facts indicate that it's the only instance of unequivocally demonstrated OU in an electrical circuit. That's what is significant. Scaling it is a detail.

I don't know what you mean by "quating". As far as I'm concerned, it has not been unequivocally demonstrated. So, have you closed the loop on your circuit? Have you ran it with a capacitor or battery for an extended time. I didn't think so. For all we know you might have just discovered a little glitch in spice. I'll give you credit for that. But I really think you need to do the scaling up before anyone will listen to you. It will not be significant until that is done.
Title: Re: PLEASE PUT WORKING CIRCUITS only HERE (for everybody please give a share)
Post by: Omnibus on March 19, 2011, 09:54:12 AM
Quoting.

No need for closing the loop or scaling up. We're not going to destroy science because some @MrMag doesn't understand how science works and typos are his main concern.

Title: Re: PLEASE PUT WORKING CIRCUITS only HERE (for everybody please give a share)
Post by: MrMag on March 19, 2011, 06:25:45 PM
Quoting.

No need for closing the loop or scaling up. We're not going to destroy science because some @MrMag doesn't understand how science works and typos are his main concern.

Why would scaling up or closing the loop destroy science? As far as I know, this is an OU forum and the people here are looking for a device that we can actually use. Are you saying that it can't be done with your circuit without destroying it?  Maybe your alleged discovery belongs in a science forum and not here. You try to come across as a scientist. Are you a scientist? What is your field of expertise?

I'm really not that worried about spelling but when a word is misspelled in a sentence that doesn't make sense, I usually ask. There is a spell check function on this forum and it's to bad that some people do not use it. We have many people here from all over the world and English is not their first language.
Title: Re: PLEASE PUT WORKING CIRCUITS only HERE (for everybody please give a share)
Post by: Omnibus on March 19, 2011, 06:32:08 PM
Science has its own requirements and it supersedes technology. Science is the important avenue. Technology is secondary. Give me scientific proof for OU and don't worry how it's gonna be applied. It will without a doubt. Oh, and, as a matter of fact, the power level in the effect I'm showing isn't that low even as is.
Title: Re: PLEASE PUT WORKING CIRCUITS only HERE (for everybody please give a share)
Post by: MrMag on March 19, 2011, 07:10:59 PM
Science has its own requirements and it supersedes technology. Science is the important avenue. Technology is secondary. Give me scientific proof for OU and don't worry how it's gonna be applied. It will without a doubt. Oh, and, as a matter of fact, the power level in the effect I'm showing isn't that low even as is.

I'm sorry but I disagree with you on that. Who cares what science says. If I can run my house off the grid with new technology, why would I care what science has to say about it. If I have to wait for the scientist to come up with something, I'll be waiting a very long time.

You give scientist to much credit. They live in a little bubble. If OU is discovered, it will probably come from some new type of energy conversion. It won't fit in their little formulas so it won't be accepted. They are the most closed minded people of all.

So, what is the gain of your circuit. How many volts in and how many out. I am asking for the actual real numbers not the simulated ones.
Title: Re: PLEASE PUT WORKING CIRCUITS only HERE (for everybody please give a share)
Post by: Omnibus on March 19, 2011, 07:23:19 PM
So, you're asking how many volts in and how many volts out and you think by knowing that you would know if it's OU. How pathetic is that. And, you have the nerve to go after people in this forum.
Title: Re: PLEASE PUT WORKING CIRCUITS only HERE (for everybody please give a share)
Post by: MrMag on March 19, 2011, 07:40:08 PM
So, you're asking how many volts in and how many volts out and you think by knowing that you would know if it's OU. How pathetic is that. And, you have the nerve to go after people in this forum.

Oh yeah, sorry, I meant watts. Even the smartest of us make mistakes once in a while. I'm not "going after" people. Why do you say this? I'm just asking questions?

So, what is the Wattage/Power in to out?

Title: Re: PLEASE PUT WORKING CIRCUITS only HERE (for everybody please give a share)
Post by: Peculian on June 22, 2011, 09:40:49 PM
Hi all.
Wow guys  :( .
Sorry to interrupt you, but please let`s stay On-Topic discussion !
The thread title says: PLEASE PUT WORKING CIRCUITS only HERE
so please let`s do just that.This is the only way we can go faster to our ultimate goal
achieving free endless energy for everyone.

I for myself am trying some Bedini stuff-like but to the moment not good results.
But, I will keep trying it and why not other people`s stuff if it has some basic proof
of working prototypes.Anyway.

Guylasun ,thank you for your reply.We need people like you in this forum.
You have done a great deal of experimenting as far as I am concerned.
I kept reading posts in this particular forum for years now,so I know some details ;)

Happy researching people!
Title: Re: PLEASE PUT WORKING CIRCUITS only HERE (for everybody please give a share)
Post by: MrMag on June 22, 2011, 10:49:45 PM
Those posts were 3 months ago. Since then Omni hasn't been around. Don't know if he was banned or just left. Either way is fine.

As far as I'm concerned this is a dead thread. You see, the person who started the thread that is called "PLEASE PUT WORKING CIRCUITS only HERE (for everybody pleas give a share)" Has a working circuit and refuses to share it. Nice guy.
Title: Re: PLEASE PUT WORKING CIRCUITS only HERE (for everybody please give a share)
Post by: z.monkey on June 23, 2011, 12:42:44 PM
Science, its what's for dinner...

This whole overunity thing is quite repugnant to me.  In an electrical or electromechanical device you are going to have resistive and frictional losses, and the output is going to be somewhat less than the input.  Even if the thing is built with the finest magnets and superconductors the efficiency is going to be less than 100% of the input.  Even the most finely crafted devices are only going to approach 97% efficiency...

The "overunity" effect you are looking for is caused by an external system coupling to an energy converter.  In the case of an alternator, which might have a moderate efficiency of 70% to 80%, ran by a gasoline generator, more like 45% efficiency, we can see there is no "overunity" there.  But if you couple the alternator to the wind using a turbine, then the alternator is the same efficiency, but the energy source is immeasurable, and free.  It costs nothing to spin the alternator with the wind, and the power generated by the alternator is free from fuel cost.  Are we breaking the laws of physics here?  No, the alternator has the same efficiency, but there is no fuel cost.  You could approximate the cost of the wind but attaching a propeller to the gasoline engine, and point it at the wind generator.  This is where it gets confusing.  Is a wind powered alternator overunity?  No.  Is it free energy?  No.  There is a cost associated with building, or buying the alternator and the turbine, and all the associated stuff, but it is cheap, and becomes cheaper the more you use it...

So, a working "overunity" electrical circuit, to put here, nope ain't got it.  I can show you dozens of circuits that simulate "overunity" but they are all coupled to an external energy system.  Moray's Radiant Energy Receiver, Tesla's Cosmic Energy Receiver, Radio Frequency Energy Receivers, and Electrinium are all receiving and downconverting the Sun's electromagnetic fields.  This is the common misconception, that energy can be created from nothingness.  I tell you it can, but it takes a Star to do it.  The electrical contraptions that claim "overunity" are merely riding on the coattails of a Star.  Sol is really the "Star" of the show.  The funny thing is we really don't know the electromechanics of how this works, yet.  There are the astrophysicists that say this, and the quantum physicists that that, and the spiritual people say different things, but the bottom line is that the only true energy source in this star system, is the Star, Sol...

Sol is the closest thing to a God that we can perceive.  The true nature, and physics of a star are still a mystery to us.  Some theories say that the core of a star is a fissure, a crack in heaven, and the energy, the brilliance of the higher planes of existence is shining through to the physical plane.  The star generates an energetic field which sets matter in motion, creates electromagnetic, and gravity phenomena.  Sol creates matter through accretion, animates matter, and makes life possible in an otherwise void space.  Sol is the reason we are here and can bicker about what "overunity" is.  He is also the source of "overunity"...

Someday we will refine a device that can directly downconvert Sol's electromagnetic radiation into electric current with a material analogous to Electrinium.  But, even then, it will still not be overunity.  The power provided to the device will still be more than the power coming out of the device, although it may be more than 99% efficient, and totally clean.  It doesn't need to be overunity, just free and clean, and in sufficient current to supply our needs.
Title: Re: PLEASE PUT WORKING CIRCUITS only HERE (for everybody please give a share)
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 24, 2011, 10:19:37 AM
Those posts were 3 months ago. Since then Omni hasn't been around. Don't know if he was banned or just left. Either way is fine.

As far as I'm concerned this is a dead thread. You see, the person who started the thread that is called "PLEASE PUT WORKING CIRCUITS only HERE (for everybody pleas give a share)" Has a working circuit and refuses to share it. Nice guy.

Soooo what do you expect after insulting me a lot!!!!!  ;D
the problem in every threads are people like you, sorry but that is the thruth.  ;)

and as of now we don't need this thread anymore cause there are already working circuits in the other threads so its not VIP anymore, its now up to you to do it  ;)

so long MR. magnifico  :D
Title: Re: PLEASE PUT WORKING CIRCUITS only HERE (for everybody please give a share)
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 24, 2011, 10:27:43 AM
To everyone

A real working circuit is just a matter of efficiency.

making a ringing effect inside the two caps prohibiting a discharging action from the source, and as it is ringing then a magnification is being done at the other coil.  ;)
Title: Re: PLEASE PUT WORKING CIRCUITS only HERE (for everybody please give a share)
Post by: SchubertReijiMaigo on June 24, 2011, 01:33:20 PM
@ z.monkey, stars are the source for electromagnetic radiation, this is our visible world, but what about invisible source, non conventional source.
Does the fact you don't see (we cannot mesure with our current apparatus) this source, is indeniable proof they don't exist ?

And about solar and wind: they are not FE but conventional and they are not cheap at all, they have high cost of service and maintenance, and they aren't clean at all (you need some energy manufacturate them especially solar panel with silicium and the pollution to manucfacture them...)
Windmill can not survive without gouvernement subvention and tax exemption...

A good exemple of FE will be trafos (transformer), why when you put a load the secondary induce a CMMF to the primary ? Why they are wasting in this kind ? CEMF is energy also, but energy out phase of input (action --> reaction) so it's possible to have a "reactionless" trafo ? Not with conventional design, but what about Heins effect and Tesla/Gabriel effect ?

For me CEMF can be recycled and not wasting into primary anymore...
Just my 2 cents...
Title: Re: PLEASE PUT WORKING CIRCUITS only HERE (for everybody please give a share)
Post by: z.monkey on June 24, 2011, 01:51:32 PM
@ z.monkey, stars are the source for electromagnetic radiation, this is our visible world, but what about invisible source, non conventional source.
You are making an assumption that Sol only emits visible light...
Sol generates the whole spectrum up to cosmic rays.
He is the source of the invisible and "non-conventional"1 radiation as well...

1I don't know what that is...
Title: Re: PLEASE PUT WORKING CIRCUITS only HERE (for everybody please give a share)
Post by: SchubertReijiMaigo on June 24, 2011, 02:34:13 PM
Sorry I have made an error about visible or invisible world, when I speak about "Visible world" I speak all EM spectrum of course, and I speak about invisible world, I speak about time, gravity, dark matter, and other stuff like that...

When I mean non convetional, I speak about for exemple time, what is time, time is energy, AC power inductance and caps involve time in their equation, and even energy istelf, if you know inductance formula you see time stuff in the formula, and gravity, according is our current theory gravity is in relation with matter and mass, but what it's true nature of gravity can we make ernergy with it ?

When I speak about "non conventional source" is all about that, for me it's weird.
Title: Re: PLEASE PUT WORKING CIRCUITS only HERE (for everybody please give a share)
Post by: z.monkey on June 24, 2011, 04:16:53 PM
Man, weird indeed.  This is where everything, science, spirit, reality blends together.  Sol sets up a matrix which creates our reality.  All things are made from this matrix, including what you call invisible.  It stretches beyond what we call the EM spectrum.  Sol's emission frequencies reach up to what we call cosmic rays, so at those extreme frequencies we have extremely small particles, what you might call ether particles, the canvas upon which the universe is painted.  All other things that manifest are made from harmonics of that base frequency of the smallest particles.  They bond together and form larger particles, and their frequency lowers, eventually becoming large enough to be photons, then electrons, then atoms, and molecules, and eventually form dirt.  I am a dirt puppet.  Built from dust that was built from molecules, that was build from atoms, that was built from electrons, that were built from photons, that were built from ether particles.  As the atoms grow the form the whole elemental table, which includes stuff we don't know about yet, like dark matter.  The ultra heavy elements that could only form at the center of a star with exponential gravitational forces.

Time is a function of mass, directly proportional.  A very small mass, like a photon, has a very small time constant, while a very large mass, like the moon, has a large time constant.  Gravity is more like electrostatic attraction, rather than some mystery force, which is also directly proportional to mass.  The photon has a very low gravity, while the moon has a relatively large gravity.  So, probably I would say that both time and gravity are phenomena that describe mass relative to its energy level.

Its too early to be so philosophical.  Needz more coffee...
Title: Re: PLEASE PUT WORKING CIRCUITS only HERE (for everybody please give a share)
Post by: SchubertReijiMaigo on June 24, 2011, 07:14:32 PM
Thank you for responce, it's seems in effect it's more metaphysical than physical or science stuff, one thing is sure: the universe have again many secrets that must be discovered !!!
Title: Re: PLEASE PUT WORKING CIRCUITS only HERE (for everybody please give a share)
Post by: forest on June 24, 2011, 11:03:04 PM
The secret is one : why it is so hard to build a working device when I have plenty of ideas ?  ;D
See... - I can see it working in my mind but cannot make one...  how to break that barrier ?
Title: Re: PLEASE PUT WORKING CIRCUITS only HERE (for everybody please give a share)
Post by: MrMag on June 25, 2011, 11:24:59 AM
To everyone

A real working circuit is just a matter of efficiency.

making a ringing effect inside the two caps prohibiting a discharging action from the source, and as it is ringing then a magnification is being done at the other coil.  ;)

Yeah right. ::)
Title: Re: PLEASE PUT WORKING CIRCUITS only HERE (for everybody please give a share)
Post by: forest on June 25, 2011, 01:18:53 PM
Yeah right. ::)

C'mon. Tito cannot be more clear ! He is really trying to tell us, please be open minded.This is capacitive method of eliminating Lenz rule.
Tito, can you explain what is that BEMF, how is related to Lenz rule ? I know about Newton third law but still my mind is not working clearly enough to understand what is the nature of this effect.
I will explain what I know because time is short : when we have capacitor and coil in resonant circut there is one resonant frequency and many harmonics. If we put a bit energy inside it will vibrate while converting between magnetic and electric side : when it is charging capacitor it always flip-flop electric dipole in capacitor. You see now where is the problem ... capacitor is connected to the power source and working against it (sometimes). Clever man would try powering it from magnetic field but again there is a change ( I think) in magnetic dipole which acts against the initial magnetic power source.

Now look what Tesla done and think...efficient use of power source by capacitive method of eliminating lenz rule. Tesla named it "charges funnel"

You really don't know how hard is to feel that but have no ability to construct a working device  :'( I'm trying and trying and trying and what can ordinary poor man do from a piece of wood and a bunch of wires ? Everything ... if he has a plan of already working simple device..and nothing - if he is trying to build one in experimental stage  >:( where everything should be precisely measured and constructed for resonance, for example switching device.
Title: Re: PLEASE PUT WORKING CIRCUITS only HERE (for everybody please give a share)
Post by: MrMag on June 26, 2011, 06:10:47 AM
Forest,

Like this?   http://www.walter-fendt.de/ph14e/osccirc.htm


And Tito, don't try to put it on me. YOU are the one who said he was going to share his discovery and then it was YOU who decided not to share it. That was BEFORE anyone started to make you sad.
Title: Re: PLEASE PUT WORKING CIRCUITS only HERE (for everybody please give a share)
Post by: forest on June 26, 2011, 10:35:29 AM
No MrMag. Like in attached picture...
Title: Re: PLEASE PUT WORKING CIRCUITS only HERE (for everybody please give a share)
Post by: SchubertReijiMaigo on June 26, 2011, 01:34:59 PM
Forest
Quote
The secret is one : why it is so hard to build a working device when I have plenty of ideas ?  ;D
See... - I can see it working in my mind but cannot make one...  how to break that barrier ?

In my case this more a lack of money than a lack of idea or experiment, for example The Tesla/Gabriel device have a nanoperm toroid (I wonder if this necessary for operating since this is more like a magnetic diode than the Heins effect permeability gradient...) This nanoperm cost me over 100 Euros, and I have the odered on Ebay the shield about 39 Dollars and 34 dollars for shipping, for the wire I use "housing" wire (the wire we use in our house) that my father have in his garage... You understand now what we have a lack of research, replication, etc ?

If you don't have the money you can't conduct the experiment, if you can't make experiment, you can't analyse or correct your theories, if you can't correct your theories, your theories is just BS speculation, and if your theories is BS speculation you can't conduct the right experiments... ;D

This the true problem again: money, and since we are trying to break some 200 years old "conservation laws", no body will support you in your research, the last solution is to put your hard earning money...
This a one man against an entire army with a wood sword...   :o
So end of story, unfortunately...
Title: Re: PLEASE PUT WORKING CIRCUITS only HERE (for everybody please give a share)
Post by: core on June 27, 2011, 12:18:48 AM
Note: You need to 'Roll your own' driver circuit.

Respectfully,

Core
Title: Re: PLEASE PUT WORKING CIRCUITS only HERE (for everybody please give a share)
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 27, 2011, 04:28:00 AM
And Tito, don't try to put it on me. YOU are the one who said he was going to share his discovery and then it was YOU who decided not to share it. That was BEFORE anyone started to make you sad.

oh ya i remember that time, but you don't know what is happening in my life then and you are one added bad taste in a soup and that's the reason why i back out from my first plan.  ;D

anyway that's not important to me anymore and i learned thats why i'm now sooooo very careful.  ;D

somebody got somebody not that's the way it is now
somebody give thanks somebody curse. thanks for those who appreciates.  ;)
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Post by: MrMag on June 27, 2011, 04:36:42 AM
oh ya i remember that time, but you don't know what is happening in my life then and you are one added bad taste in a soup and that's the reason why i back out from my first plan.  ;D

anyway that's not important to me anymore and i learned thats why i'm now sooooo very careful.  ;D

somebody got somebody not that's the way it is now
somebody give thanks somebody curse. thanks for those who appreciates.

Sorry you had something going on in your life, so do I and a lot of others. I was hoping that you would change your mind and share. But since you don't want to, fine. That's in the past so let's drop it and move on. There are some interesting posts here now and I would like to see what becomes of it.
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Post by: MrMag on June 27, 2011, 04:39:22 AM
Forest and Core,

Where did you find these schematics or did you do them and what are they suppose to do. I know the second one is Teslas hairpin on Forest post but the first one is unfamiliar.
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Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 27, 2011, 04:53:47 AM
C'mon. Tito cannot be more clear ! He is really trying to tell us, please be open minded.This is capacitive method of eliminating Lenz rule.
Tito, can you explain what is that BEMF, how is related to Lenz rule ? I know about Newton third law but still my mind is not working clearly enough to understand what is the nature of this effect.
I will explain what I know because time is short : when we have capacitor and coil in resonant circut there is one resonant frequency and many harmonics. If we put a bit energy inside it will vibrate while converting between magnetic and electric side : when it is charging capacitor it always flip-flop electric dipole in capacitor. You see now where is the problem ... capacitor is connected to the power source and working against it (sometimes). Clever man would try powering it from magnetic field but again there is a change ( I think) in magnetic dipole which acts against the initial magnetic power source.

Now look what Tesla done and think...efficient use of power source by capacitive method of eliminating lenz rule. Tesla named it "charges funnel"

You really don't know how hard is to feel that but have no ability to construct a working device  :'( I'm trying and trying and trying and what can ordinary poor man do from a piece of wood and a bunch of wires ? Everything ... if he has a plan of already working simple device..and nothing - if he is trying to build one in experimental stage  >:( where everything should be precisely measured and constructed for resonance, for example switching device.

We cannot remove the reality that there is and there is still a leak isn't it? Now, what we want is to eliminate the direct flowing but the whole energy effect is being use by us, its like bearden.
another thing, it should always be running in one way, that means no left and right turn and U-TURN  ;D

for this project we only need 3 caps 2 diodes and a lot of coils. but we can also do this using 2 caps and one diode. 8) 
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Post by: Magluvin on June 27, 2011, 05:55:25 AM
Hmmm  lots of coils

I wonder,  if you have 2 coils, say 2mh each, if we put them in parallel, would the inductance change?

Im just guessing here, as I have not really seen many or any examples of parallel inductors.

Why would the inductance change if they were in parallel.

In series I can see a change, but parallel, im not sure.

Mags
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Post by: Magluvin on June 27, 2011, 06:07:56 AM
The only reason I say this is because of Titos ingredients.

2 caps 1 diode lots of coils.

2 caps for a lot of coils?  I can only figure parallel.

Otherwise, many bifi coils so they are resonant to the driver, made of 2 caps, 1 diode, and "n" coils.

Titio the puzzle maker.  ;]

Mags
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Post by: Magluvin on June 27, 2011, 06:10:06 AM
2 caps 1 diode lots of coils?

no switches?
no battery?
no transistors?
No antenna?

Hmmm,  the puzzle that has no picture.  ;]

Mags
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Post by: forest on June 27, 2011, 07:11:01 AM
I posted picture.It's Tesla Harpin circuit. Read text below picture.
I have two questions :

1. Is there a way to use electrolyic caps in harpin circuit ? If so then how connect them ? That would allow to test very small  circuit with small voltages like 12V even ! Tesla said it is possible but capacitor need to be huge (in capacity) and expensive. Now we have electrolytic caps which are quite cheap.

2. Can somebody post a circuit which allow charge harpin capacitors to 800V (+400V and -400V) efficently (meaning many times per second) ? I've build  for my circuit (described in amplification thread) a string of 1uF 400V caps and edn with 3uF 800V cap in harpin embodiment. Second problem will be to find electronic way to discharge this cap.
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Post by: Magluvin on June 27, 2011, 07:20:03 AM
hey Forest

maybe the huge caps tesla was talking about back then, these days are not so large..   ;]

Mags
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Post by: forest on June 27, 2011, 09:20:33 AM
Mags

Only electrolytic, but electrolytic are polarised
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Post by: Magluvin on June 28, 2011, 12:43:00 AM
Forest, just use 2 electrolytic caps in series with the + together. If you want 100uf then each cap need be 200uf
Try to use quite a bit higher voltage ratings as to what you need.  If you need 200v, us 400v, just to be in the clear.
How many uf are you looking to use?
Mags
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Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 28, 2011, 04:33:57 AM
2 caps 1 diode lots of coils?

no switches?
no battery?
no transistors?
No antenna?

Hmmm,  the puzzle that has no picture.  ;]

Mags
;D

no switches? of course there is and i prefer reedsw or 2n2222
no battery? of course there is but starting only after circuit is energize change it into a big uf cap
no transistors? yes no transistor
No antenna? yes not antenna version but we can do it also using antenna as source

and here is the pic => ;D lol

for control, don't forget Zdiode ok goodluck

and b4 i forget, currently your approaching in a wrong way as what i am is reading in your post try different one, don't forget tesla's simple work just a little modification ok?.
oz, ir, hp.....etc

Goodluck everyone
the main ingredient are already there all you have to do is ARRANGEMENT.
This circuit is amazing i'm telling you, that is if you can get it.  ;)

The thing that should be happen is that, as if you are using the source but not actually destroying it but you are using it. very hard to understand isn't it but its true.  ???  ;D

The a20 in memory of the computer is considered an error or leak but becomes a way to expand.  8) amazing

God bless you all
otit L. Noicaro
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Post by: Magluvin on June 28, 2011, 05:04:38 AM
Hey Teets

Thanks for the info reply. ;]

I have been messing with the igniter circuit. I have some hope for the idea. Im getting close to golden. ;]  When you say its all about efficiency, I get it.  Everything all around us, circuit wise, is inefficient.  Ou is there. We just have to get rid of the inefficiencies.  Right?  ;] We have to get around the bad designs we are taught, shown and are accustom to.

If I may ask, what freq of operation should we aim for with your ingredients? Just a range. Or does it not matter?

Thanks   :-*

Mags
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Post by: Peculian on June 29, 2011, 02:24:55 AM
Forest and Core,

Where did you find these schematics or did you do them and what are they suppose to do. I know the second one is Teslas hairpin on Forest post but the first one is unfamiliar.

Hi @ all! & MrMag !
The "unfamiliar" circuit is the one Don Smith used in his demonstrations of COP
more than unity hundreds if not thousands of times greater.
Tito is right in telling the basic components are there.The same claims were given by
Don Smith himself which originated from Tesla`s works & researches.
As Smith points out you should not "kill" the Dipole aka the source of energy And at the same
time you have "copies" of the first energy source without depleting or destroying the source
itself.
Yes it is not complicated,and that is the good news!
Even Kapanadze and other Free Energy Researchears who had good results based their
success in Tesla`s research-conclusions !!!  ;)
No secrets here guys,just some study on the original work of Tesla and a lot of patience
because this is not a joke anymore.
Have a look at this statement done by Don Smith in Free Energy (Tesla again  ;D )Conference
http://www.mediafire.com/?yc0xwqa33ebzyjc
We (free energy enthusiasts and researchers) are
"fighting" against the regime of monopoly and controlling the whole-world energy needs of people.

Unfortunately ,as many of you guys and gals here me too I am in the bad position
of very limited economical sources.. and my researches about energy independence are somehow slow  :(
This is of course a result of people being controlled on every efforts done to independence
and freedom especially when it come in the Energy needs .hmmm
Anyway we should definitely try to resolve this node as quickly as possible for ourselves
and our families and friends.  ;)
Keep on guys.Never give up.  :)
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Post by: Tito L. Oracion on June 29, 2011, 05:53:43 AM
Hey Teets

Thanks for the info reply. ;]

I have been messing with the igniter circuit. I have some hope for the idea. Im getting close to golden. ;]  When you say its all about efficiency, I get it.  Everything all around us, circuit wise, is inefficient.  Ou is there. We just have to get rid of the inefficiencies.  Right?  ;] We have to get around the bad designs we are taught, shown and are accustom to.

If I may ask, what freq of operation should we aim for with your ingredients? Just a range. Or does it not matter?

Thanks   :-*

Mags

In getting the peak mode we prefer the fastest one but there is always a sweet spot for that fastest point to always having the pure and strongest effect.  ;D
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Post by: forest on June 29, 2011, 07:01:14 AM
;D

no switches? of course there is and i prefer reedsw or 2n2222
no battery? of course there is but starting only after circuit is energize change it into a big uf cap
no transistors? yes no transistor
No antenna? yes not antenna version but we can do it also using antenna as source

and here is the pic => ;D lol

for control, don't forget Zdiode ok goodluck

and b4 i forget, currently your approaching in a wrong way as what i am is reading in your post try different one, don't forget tesla's simple work just a little modification ok?.
oz, ir, hp.....etc

Goodluck everyone
the main ingredient are already there all you have to do is ARRANGEMENT.
This circuit is amazing i'm telling you, that is if you can get it.  ;)

The thing that should be happen is that, as if you are using the source but not actually destroying it but you are using it. very hard to understand isn't it but its true.  ???  ;D

The a20 in memory of the computer is considered an error or leak but becomes a way to expand.  8) amazing

God bless you all
otit L. Noicaro

wow! are you telling it can be done using 2n2222 ? does it mean low voltage circuit ???? if so - is that harder to get in low voltage electronic circuit ?
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Post by: penno64 on June 29, 2011, 07:35:14 AM
Hi guys,

Where is the circuit diagram you are working on ?

I would like to play if thats ok.

Penno
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Post by: Magluvin on June 29, 2011, 06:23:50 PM
Hey Pen

No circuit yet.  =[   But from the list, I venture to say that a coil and reed(magnet biased to be closed) are set up as a self oscillator. Add a cap(no value determined for anything so far) and diode(where is the diode n cap?, dunno).  But Im guessing the other coils are bifi, all tuned to the oscillator. 

Thats just my initial thoughts.

mags
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Post by: penno64 on June 29, 2011, 08:33:32 PM
Thanks Mags,

Sounds like the vibreedo coil  ???

Not sure if it was here or over at EF.

Regards, Penno
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Post by: scratchrobot on June 29, 2011, 08:59:29 PM
Note: You need to 'Roll your own' driver circuit.

Respectfully,

Core

Hi Core, interesting circuit, did you buld it? Do you heve more details?

regards
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Post by: Magluvin on June 30, 2011, 05:18:42 AM
In getting the peak mode we prefer the fastest one but there is always a sweet spot for that fastest point to always having the pure and strongest effect.  ;D

Cool   Thanks Teetles    ;]

So high freq is preferable, but we can do it also at lower freq.  ;]  I like.   I think Romeros coils are doing it. Bifi and the rotor gets to a speed that the pulses get the coils peaking.  ;] 

Ya know Teets, Im just only now(recently)getting it in my thick head that the bifi can be a self contained resonator..

See, I told you I was slow.  Duh.  ;]

So can we connect the oscillating driver to the other many coils via cap?  Or is it that the other many coils just need to be in the vicinity of the reed oscillator?  ;]

thanks again Teets.  your puzzles are starting to look like a Picture.  lol   tell me, is it pretty?   ;]

Magsy
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Post by: Magluvin on June 30, 2011, 06:28:55 AM
TWEETS!!!!!   HEY!!!!

Been posting tings, yes tings..     I think I found the answer.  Well I didnt find it, Its just what bruce was talking about and a thane vid and romeros ting,  yes ting, and something you always said.  ;]

Ok, I hope you will confirm, so Forest can have heat this winter.  ;]

When you say lots of coils, do you mean a many strand multifilar coil?   

 :-*


Magfi
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Post by: core on June 30, 2011, 07:09:52 AM
Hi Core, interesting circuit, did you buld it? Do you heve more details?

regards

Yes, I am rebuilding a new version that can handle more power on the primary, mainly the transistors. My driver is a simple 555 ic set-up that also could use a revamping. As it stands now time is my enemy. Since I do air conditioning work I am a little busy and have little free time for building, however I will tell you the following:

1 - Ignore the secondary if you will, it is a Hybrid off an Eric Dollard theory I came up with.(Actually the secondary contains two capacitance's when you consider the top of the secondary to earth ground.)
 
2 - The meat and potatoes of the circuit is the primary set-up. Actually, I am surprised it hasn't been posted on any other forum.

3 - The primary circuit is not mine and comes from a much more authoritative source on the subject that should be well trusted.

4 - The first thing that should grab your attention is the very interesting way the bifilar coil is wound. Noticed the capacitor between the bifilar? Haven't seen that anywhere?

Give it a shot you have nothing to loose doesn't cost much to build. Note, you do not have to use a 'tube' and 'wire' like I did. A straight up bifilar works just the same.


BTW - Any chance we can keep on topic and talk about posted 'working' circuits and not imaginary circuits?

Regards

Core
 
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Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 02, 2011, 04:07:12 AM
let us just make concentrate on romero's  tech, just forget everything here its cause its getting good  ;D
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Post by: Magluvin on July 02, 2011, 05:26:40 AM
 ;)
Title: Re: PLEASE PUT WORKING CIRCUITS only HERE (for everybody please give a share)
Post by: MrMag on July 02, 2011, 07:47:12 AM
Forest, just use 2 electrolytic caps in series with the + together. If you want 100uf then each cap need be 200uf
Try to use quite a bit higher voltage ratings as to what you need.  If you need 200v, us 400v, just to be in the clear.
How many uf are you looking to use?
Mags

You can't reverse an electrolytic capacitor + is always positive and - is always negative. It could explode if you hook it up backwards.
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Post by: Magluvin on July 02, 2011, 03:56:36 PM
You can't reverse an electrolytic capacitor + is always positive and - is always negative. It could explode if you hook it up backwards.

Then explain non polarized electrolytic caps.

Mags
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Post by: MrMag on July 02, 2011, 04:46:18 PM
Then explain non polarized electrolytic caps.

Mags

I guess if they are not polarized, it would be OK. But the ones that are polarized are a different story.
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Post by: CompuTutor on July 02, 2011, 05:40:02 PM
Then explain non polarized electrolytic caps.

Mags

"Special capacitors designed for AC operation are available, usually referred to as "non-polarized" or "NP" types. In these, full-thickness oxide layers are formed on both the aluminum foil strips prior to assembly. On the alternate halves of the AC cycles, one of the foil strips acts as a blocking diode, preventing reverse current from damaging the electrolyte of the other one."

Reference:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrolytic_capacitor

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Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 07, 2011, 10:36:32 AM
Three caps is all we need for free energy.

2 10uf
1  10,000uf
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Post by: forest on July 07, 2011, 10:26:29 PM
Tito , the last one could be just 6800uF / 25 V ?  :-\  I have no other to start with :'( Two former also have just 2x 5uF (5 x 1uF/400V in parallel) in series  ::)
Not a lot of coils but 3 on primary in series and 3 x 3 in secondary mixed (in series while parallel then in 3 chunks in series)  Complicated  ;D
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Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 08, 2011, 02:11:49 PM
no! you can use them also but what is important is higher voltage rating and 2 smaller uf so that the dielectric are far from each other safe from shorting.

and we can make a lot of coils or unlimited coils allowed.  8)


 ;D
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Post by: forest on July 08, 2011, 02:36:36 PM
no! you can use them also but what is important is higher voltage rating and 2 smaller uf so that the dielectric are far from each other safe from shorting.

and we can make a lot of coils or unlimited coils allowed.  8)


 ;D

Now I know why it is so hard task...  :'( Where did you find 10uF for higher then 400V ?
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Post by: gyulasun on July 08, 2011, 08:45:07 PM
Now I know why it is so hard task...  :'( Where did you find 10uF for higher then 400V ?

ebay: http://cgi.ebay.ca/2-ASC-HYP2-10uF-1400VDC-10-Polypropylene-Capacitors-/200607050891?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eb51cac8b

http://cgi.ebay.ca/8-Arcotronics-C4C-1-2uF-1200V-Polypropylene-Capacitors-/190548365352?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c5d915028

http://cgi.ebay.ca/2-Plastic-Cap-LQ20-205-V-2uF-2kV-Foil-Capacitor-/190531642095?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c5c9222ef 

Farnell:

http://uk.farnell.com/vishay-roederstein/mkp1848-610-094p4/capacitor-mkp-1100v-10uf/dp/1791633?Ntt=1791633 

Gyula
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Post by: Shokac on July 09, 2011, 02:19:05 PM
Three caps is all we need for free energy.

2 10uf
1  10,000uf

How to connect these capacitors?
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Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 11, 2011, 02:27:19 AM
How to connect these capacitors?

and that is the magic short secret  ;D but main components are already there, and once you discover it then it can change the world the way it use electricity!  8)

now you are now allowed to become mad at me cause i can't tell.  ;D
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Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 11, 2011, 02:31:46 AM
Now I know why it is so hard task...  :'( Where did you find 10uF for higher then 400V ?

can't you not make your own? hmmm, you can make it using 2 magnet wire #26awg.
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Post by: forest on July 11, 2011, 06:39:17 AM
can't you not make your own? hmmm, you can make it using 2 magnet wire #26awg.

 :o now you are even more mysterious
bifilar coil for 10uf ?
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Post by: Magluvin on July 11, 2011, 07:19:40 AM
Hey Tito

Any chance we could get a no. of turns for that capacitor?  ;]

Also, do we need a core?

I know these are too much to ask, but its a lot of work and a lot of wire if done wrong.  And if done wrong, it can be discouraging.  Can you get my drift?  ;]

We still have a lot to figure out beyond the coil. :-*

Thanks for the info 

Mags
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Post by: MrMag on July 11, 2011, 07:47:10 AM
and that is the magic short secret  ;D but main components are already there, and once you discover it then it can change the world the way it use electricity!  8)

now you are now allowed to become mad at me cause i can't tell.  ;D

Never  ;D ;D
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Post by: Tito L. Oracion on July 12, 2011, 10:06:26 AM
Hey Tito

Any chance we could get a no. of turns for that capacitor?  ;]

Also, do we need a core?

I know these are too much to ask, but its a lot of work and a lot of wire if done wrong.  And if done wrong, it can be discouraging.  Can you get my drift?  ;]

We still have a lot to figure out beyond the coil. :-*

Thanks for the info 

Mags

i just made a simple estimation, first make a, let say, a couple of turns then check the capacitance then that's it continue up to.... . by the way i'm using digital capacitance meter.

yes with core.

? is it easy to walk if you have 4 feet?  ;D
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Post by: Magluvin on July 12, 2011, 11:47:40 PM
i just made a simple estimation, first make a, let say, a couple of turns then check the capacitance then that's it continue up to.... . by the way i'm using digital capacitance meter.

yes with core.

? is it easy to walk if you have 4 feet?  ;D

4 feet?  hmm, this could mean a few things....

Single layer 4 feet long?   Or is it diameter?  emm, probably  a big core if its diameter. So nay to that.  :-*

Or is it with four feet, we can say put one foot in front of the other?  ;)

So I will say 4fi for the fee fi fo fum.  ;]

By the way, thats a nifty and simple way to work out the capacitance without getting dirty.  I like. Never thunk it. ;]

Thanks tweetles.

Ive been workin a big side job on a motor home. So wont get to do anything till the weekend.

One more ting.  Yes ting. ;]   

If I have a roll of 26 awg, of which I do ;] , would you say 2500ft is enough to git r dun!   ;]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtAUsVXB9OU

Mag n net


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Post by: forest on July 13, 2011, 09:06:12 AM
a bug with 4 feet ?  ;D 4 coils or coil with 4  ?
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Post by: Magluvin on July 14, 2011, 06:42:05 PM
a bug with 4 feet ?  ;D 4 coils or coil with 4  ?

Well, your question is proper here.  4 feet could just mean 4 leads coming off of the coil, and not necessarily 4fi.

Well, I have some empty wire spools that measure...

3 in. length
3.4 in dia

The core is .9in. outer (plastic tube) dia.

I measured the wire, 26awg, and calculated that I can get near 4700 turns, single strand if done nice and neat and full to the rim.   

I find that these plastic(1/16 in walls) tend to bend outwards as the no. of turns gets thick. So keeping it neat is tough with these spools unless support is added.

I figure that all of any turns are less than a foot, so I have enough wire for something bigger.

Will try some stuff this weekend...  Hopefuly im not wasting my time. ;]

Mags

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Post by: forest on July 19, 2011, 10:23:58 AM
I ask myself how to avoid using diodes. If output is radiant energy could I just use ordinary diode bridge rated 1000V ? I think output will be like car ignition coil , mostly positive but with a nasty negative lowervoltage spike before . I wish it could be possible to shape coils in such way that output will be only positive thus eliminating diodes.
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Post by: CompuTutor on July 19, 2011, 11:19:04 AM
...If output is radiant energy could I just use ordinary diode bridge...

You ask good questions across the threads,
but I am forced to bare myself on this one.

No one, not anyone, knows exactly what "Radiant" is.

If they claim so they are idiots, probably.

We know of it currently,
we can prove it exists,
we can use it (SSG, Etc.).

The science community,
and society as a whole
would be farther ahead,
if existance were acknowledged !

To be clear, I am not a Bedini-ite per say,
but he made his own junctions continuously.

And enough unconventional magnetic relationship experiments
to assure us he "Bumped" into and answer on the issue.

If I had to bet on anyone having this answer
it would be John (NOT the "other" guy...)

I've only seen a few raw physics posts admitting rectification,
and even fewer releases by John (Bedini) and Eric (Dollard)
concerning sucessfully rectified radiant energy.

But the neon bulb lighting off of the plastic casing of a battery
in John's vids should indicate a need for unconventional parts.

Fast-recovery diodes to detect availability might be a start,
but an over-the-counter part to "rectify" radiant is unlikely...

Again, I hate to sound like a fatalist,
but would USA allow that part to be made ???

I mean for public purchase,
not military-only release .

we need to learn to use actual matter to sort this out,
by that I mean disimillar materials that DO sort it out.

we see "Rectifiers" as silicon junctions,
I seriously doubt that is the correct solution.

Dissimillar conductive METAL matter cohesed is more likely
to be the answer to rectifying what we know-not a-lot about.

Pulses from collapsing coils do contain reverse EMF,
or as more commonly cited CEMF (Counter...),
but they ALSO contain additional energy too.

Show me a link to a component that claims to rectify
"Radiant Energy" forum disputers intending to say this is crap...

It is there,
we know it is,
we try to use it,
some succeed at it.

Forest wants to recify that,
nothing wrong with that !

Ever search for:
"Radiant Rectifier"
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Radiant+Rectifier%22&hl=en&newwindow=1&num=100&lr=lang_en&ft=i&cr=&safe=off
Two bull-crap results makes my point
Title: Re: PLEASE PUT WORKING CIRCUITS only HERE (for everybody please give a share)
Post by: CompuTutor on July 19, 2011, 11:35:06 AM
I kept this seperate,
wind TWO SEPERATE windings on the outside of an insulator tube,
with a conductive collector tubing inside of the insulator tube.

Then connect the windings in series to obtain a sustained potential
between the windings to obtain the capacitor characteristics needed.

This obviously is an AC-Oriented occurance involving extraneous BEMF conditions.
Title: Re: PLEASE PUT WORKING CIRCUITS only HERE (for everybody please give a share)
Post by: forest on July 19, 2011, 08:22:19 PM
CompuTutor

I need it to rectify to store in electrlytic capacitor.  ;D No problem I will try what ever I find... but that is the tough problem for me...still in starting level planning circuit ...
Title: Re: PLEASE PUT WORKING CIRCUITS only HERE (for everybody please give a share)
Post by: forest on July 19, 2011, 08:28:19 PM
I kept this seperate,
wind TWO SEPERATE windings on the outside of an insulator tube,
with a conductive collector tubing inside of the insulator tube.

Then connect the windings in series to obtain a sustained potential
between the windings to obtain the capacitor characteristics needed.

This obviously is an AC-Oriented occurance involving extraneous BEMF conditions.


What did you described ? Capacitor or a coil generating only one polarity BEMF spikes ?


Btw : IMHO radiant energy,magnetic current,cold electricity,static charge,BEMF spike it's all the same , differs only in frequency of oscillation - longitudinal wave in ether aka electric field (pure) aka changing magnetic sound-like wave. The problem is exactly this = too many definitions  for the same physical effect.

Title: Re: workingTPU
Post by: gadgetmall on August 14, 2011, 07:03:15 PM
Hi . The most simplest Device came from Edward Leedskalnin . you can make this one with a Ubolt ,some wire and a battery . I find this topic of working circuits and thought it should be posted here . This is no more than a demonstration of perpetual energy that you can make therefor Flawed first and second law of thermodynamics states that perpetual motion machines of the first and second kind are   impossible. ;D Work is unseen electron Spin after power is removed.It dosn't dissapate over time ..Sometimes you can't see the snake that bit you becuase your standing on him and you can't see the tree because of the forest or you can't find your glasses because there on top of yur head;)
. It is made by wrapping wire abound the two legs of a u bolt . two coils  - and have a flat bar to place across the ends of the U bolt form a perpetual magnet and in effect accedendentally build a Torriodal Power Unit !All you do is energize it for a second and it will remain an electromagnet indefinitely until you break the flat bar from it's hold,breaking the Flow of the Electron Spin. Also you can put a ampmter in series with the coils in a closed configuration(a couple of diodes) after the dc power source is removed and show perpetual DC current flowing in a closed loop . Simplest demonstration of a TPU in operation . In a replication the user energized the coils with 10 amps and  6 amps remained in the coils after is off indicating a closed loop plus the magnetic  flow was also in a closed loop .for circuits and more elaborate designs see http://www.leedskalnin.com/. Also a borrowed v ideo from Lightsaber shown http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_ssUTRbRRs
and rwg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alnqltMb-pM&feature=related

Gadget
Title: Re: workingTPU
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on August 16, 2011, 04:45:03 AM
Hi . The most simplest Device came from Edward Leedskalnin . you can make this one with a Ubolt ,some wire and a battery . I find this topic of working circuits and thought it should be posted here . This is no more than a demonstration of perpetual energy that you can make therefor Flawed first and second law of thermodynamics states that perpetual motion machines of the first and second kind are   impossible. ;D Work is unseen electron Spin after power is removed.It dosn't dissapate over time ..Sometimes you can't see the snake that bit you becuase your standing on him and you can't see the tree because of the forest or you can't find your glasses because there on top of yur head;)
. It is made by wrapping wire abound the two legs of a u bolt . two coils  - and have a flat bar to place across the ends of the U bolt form a perpetual magnet and in effect accedendentally build a Torriodal Power Unit !All you do is energize it for a second and it will remain an electromagnet indefinitely until you break the flat bar from it's hold,breaking the Flow of the Electron Spin. Also you can put a ampmter in series with the coils in a closed configuration(a couple of diodes) after the dc power source is removed and show perpetual DC current flowing in a closed loop . Simplest demonstration of a TPU in operation . In a replication the user energized the coils with 10 amps and  6 amps remained in the coils after is off indicating a closed loop plus the magnetic  flow was also in a closed loop .for circuits and more elaborate designs see http://www.leedskalnin.com/. Also a borrowed v ideo from Lightsaber shown http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_ssUTRbRRs
and rwg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alnqltMb-pM&feature=related

Gadget

i think we can combine the  captret of ibpointless here,  ;)
Title: Re: workingTPU
Post by: CompuTutor on August 17, 2011, 05:14:17 AM
...the ends of the U bolt form a perpetual magnet and in effect accedendentally (accidental)
(form a) build (of) a Torriodal Power Unit !
All you do is energize it for a second and it will remain an electromagnet indefinitely
until you break the flat bar from it's hold, breaking the Flow of the Electron Spin...
Gadget

Study the rodin math system, wind one with silver plated iron, start the process, smile...

Hint: stay away from copper coated/cored/plated anything, always.

Silver can be plated directly to iron without interstitial metals.
http://books.google.com/books/download/A_complete_treatise_on_the_electro_depos.pdf?id=SI85AQAAIAAJ&hl=en&capid=AFLRE70SgK3RY4_KNFhSKEZvKqNXvCqs-NVh__N7QXqwvDab5RyK8MrStXqbjEQZgUkmV3iyEV080nFFHd3MB7Q6IyPmqxgN4w&continue=http://books.google.com/books/download/A_complete_treatise_on_the_electro_depos.pdf%3Fid%3DSI85AQAAIAAJ%26output%3Dpdf%26hl%3Den
A complete treatise on the electro-deposition of metals

The "Electron" people will now get all up in arms about this,
saying that the silver will short all the windings from electon flow...

EXACTLY (lol)!

What you want IS magnetic flow only.

If your winding simple form,
wind left to right one layer,
STOP and return to the left,
continue next layer left to right,
rinse and repeat...

Never wind like your going to use current...

Make sure all windings are from left to right,
with a right angle return to the left for these.

There is a much better variant,
the Tesla pancake coil of course.

Wind each layer bifilar (two wire),
erect a vertical buss for the starts/ends of all layers desired,
wire them to keep a sustained potential across bifilar pair like usual,
but only add additional pancakes to the existing busses to maintain this,
the above standard "Selonoid" winding does not apply here.

That winding method is only for launching
things exceptionally high from a cap only...

can you say "Edwin V. Gray", heheh ?



NO gradual windings back to the left.

I cannot say this enough to lazy winders !

Some will make the wire for you.
http://www.calfinewire.com/

Ever wonder why iron wire doesn't need to be insulated
while transering magnetic current in windings without shorting ?

CAUSE IT CAN...but removing all and any electron action is tops.

This is the section of things that just work,
these work, doesn't matter if we know why.
Title: Re: PLEASE PUT WORKING CIRCUITS only HERE (for everybody please give a share)
Post by: Google on March 29, 2014, 06:25:28 PM
Silver coated iron wire pancake bifi coils in a stack ?

Interesting, , can we get some details on how to wire them ? Series or parallel ? Where will the cap be added ?

Possibly a rough thumnail schema will help.

Best,