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Gravity powered devices => Gravity powered devices => Topic started by: hammuraby on February 26, 2009, 02:42:03 PM
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hi, i am a student-thesist on many many other item that is energy related....
<b>befoure of all the .DEVELOPPEMENT DURABLE</b> (infrastrutture) = gestion of surface water
whit chanalization on altimetric isobare...
and...gravity distribution
as BABYLON 2300ac
(++ water pression conversion inTO air compressed befoure turbinage....
conversion for make SNOW! )- territorial laws,
THEN , recicled braking energy sistem
and SMART GRID sistem...
BUT....many many other;
a little time ago i have found a person very upset about the CORAL CASTLE mistery;
ha remind to me , that i was able to understand "how that is work".....
then i try to explane to you
is a question of de-balance the NM using a gear....
recicling ALL the descharge energy
1) the heavyness (10 000Nm ) of water column (es diseign: 15cm tube for 60 meters)
from the pool to the bottom of sink can give a force trought a meccanic sistem ,
for upper 4000kg for 25 cm, whit a 4:1 gear...
then the water go down the sink "IT-pozzo" to undergraund water level
2) if we change a gear to 40:11 the loud go down for 27,5 cm ,
and when the weight go down the water flow will be reversed, and the water is pumping from the undergraund to the pool "IT-vasca"
and THIS can replace ALL the energy-water used ,
by feed-back to ACCUMULATOR-POOL
I whis to be clear....and easy....
look befoure a fhoto from CC...
then a sistem....
NB:excuse me for my little english...i am italian from bergamo-milan
i wait your comments....if use a easy english, i can answere more soon
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por have a perfect idea, on "what can be done for a commercial usa" safety and perfectinament of this
i try to explain this:
AT FIRST the water pool in surface have to be made easy, whit the bottom impermeabilized in film plastic, or what else, THEN refilled whit gres,broke... fired brik; aVERY idroassorbent material, and very GOOD filter for water;
MUST: because this make a pool safe, the pool will be look like a garden "suspended" BABYLON
TECH:
SECOND whit a conic gear (or automatic, elettronic drived) you have to find a balance point:
when the rapport between is short, the water go DOWN from the pool to the sink, and the loud go UP
when the rapport is long, the loud go DOWN , and the water will be pumped UP from sink to the pool
THEN the exit that was designed meccanicall, can be oil-pneumatic (best will came)
START TO REACH A RAIN WATER in refilled pool
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I'm having a little trouble following you, half of what you say is very unclear...
but what I get from your posts is that you suggest Leedskalnin used a water "wheel"
powered generator in the form of a reversible pump with his coils and magnets
attached to the wheel,
and that he used some setup where he had water flow from a tank into a sink,
via the waterwheel/pump, then had the waterflow through the pump reverse
causing a flow from the sink to the tank, and repeating this cycle...?
What I don't follow is how you propose to reverse this water flow
and still make use of the water pressure to power the waterwheel+generator. ???
And I suppose your explanation for his construction of the Coral Castle and moving
the extremely heavy blocks is that he simply produced lots of electricity and used that
to lift and move the blocks?
regards,
Koen
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I'm having a little trouble following you, half of what you say is very unclear...
but what I get from your posts is that you suggest Leedskalnin used a water "wheel"
powered generator in the form of a reversible pump with his coils and magnets
attached to the wheel,
and that he used some setup where he had water flow from a tank into a sink,
via the waterwheel/pump, then had the waterflow through the pump reverse
causing a flow from the sink to the tank, and repeating this cycle...?
What I don't follow is how you propose to reverse this water flow
and still make use of the water pressure to power the waterwheel+generator. ???
And I suppose your explanation for his construction of the Coral Castle and moving
the extremely heavy blocks is that he simply produced lots of electricity and used that
to lift and move the blocks?
regards,
Koen
Something like that might be possible. If the pipes go into the ground, then the heat transfered to the water could make it rise.
Some similar things are being done with heating buildings by this type of set up.
Jim
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for @ koen
at the first you are right,
but no elettric power is intoduce,
because if you convert a power whit a generator the rent can be 0.9
then a rent of elettric motor is 0.9, (0.9 x 0.9 = 0.81) you luse 0.19 ,
plus ++ 0.19 when the cicle will be reverse motor in generator and generator in motor...
0.8 x 0.8 = 0.64 total waste of energy is 35%
coral castle was only idro-meccanic, no air compressed, no elettricity, not.....
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I read what you wrote yet I still don't really follow... sorry :(
Perhaps someone who does get the point could rephrase
this so that it becomes more understandable? :)
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I read what you wrote yet I still don't really follow... sorry :(
Perhaps someone who does get the point could rephrase
this so that it becomes more understandable? :)
Koen,
About the only way having a 60 meter pipe would matter would be the compressive forces the water would be under. It would be equivalent to about 6 atmospheres.
This is what makes me think a part of the design has to do with transferring thermal energy.
Any time a fluid is compressed, it gives off heat. Just check your refrigerator. The refrigerant is placed under pressure and gives off a lot of heat. Then when it goes into a vacuum chamber, it absorbs heat.
I think this system might be something similar in principle.
Jim
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with all respect, hammuraby, install firefox and with it install spellingchecker (really works great), it is very unreadable what you're typing.
Leedskalnin is an interesting subject.
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excuse me for my english, one more time.....
i had read about heat, or about electricity, and air compressed
NOT at ALL, forghet it , for now ...,
that is not necessaire, here is just meccanical sistem
for now !!......and,when the meccanic sistem will be understand, other will came....the best will came!! step by step
FIRST DATA you have to evalue the tube that came from the pool to the underground level showed in the #1 picture after the fhoto:
that in the semple is 15 cm of diameter,
176 cm2 X 60.00 mt of delevell from surface pool to undergraund water level,
is about 1020 Kg = 10 000N
that PULL on the pump ex: left
(@BAHammer...you can see as you wont, 6atm =6kg/cm2 x 172cm2 = 1020kg x 9.8 = c.a.10 000 N !!)
when you need to UP a WEIGHT, you have to reduce the Nm that result on/at gear-box,
less then this levell (10 000Nm); exemple in diseig 4000 kg , need gear 4:1 ( 9 900Nm ex: on right of pomp)
the resistence (loud) is less then the water power (heavyness of water column);
10 000Nm win on 9 900
and, what s happen?: <-------:
the pull from water win and the water go DOWN the tube (from the pool) and then the loud go UP
then, when you need to put down the WEIGHT you will use a gear 40:11
and the heavyness from the LOUD, put on the pump 10 100 Nm in the other side (ex: right side).
this drags a water flow (and the pump versus) to reverse versus, -------->
because 10 100 Nm win on 10 000 still Nm traction from the 60 mt long water tube.
the loud go DOWN, and the water is pomping UP
IT WORK as a BALANCE,
charge weight up ------>short gear----> discharge water down to bottom of sink
charge water up to pool ------>long gear-----> discharge weight down
easly, and notthing else (for now!)
and the SECRET is find a point in perfect balance on conic-gear ,
then, a little short go loud go UP, a little long loud do DOWM
at the same time water go DOWN, or water go UP !! really easy a lot !!
whit this sistem, you can SAVE close that all the energy-water used befoure....
called also "discharge energy recicled"
(naturally, if the hi ness of stat point and end point is on the same level)
total power also emprove by rain ....
VERY IMPORTANT:
is that the two mouths of the tube can not breath air , one on water subterrain, and other in waterpool
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excuse me for my english, one more time.....
i had read about heat, or about electricity, and air compressed
NOT at ALL, forghet it , for now ...,
that is not necessaire, here is just meccanical sistem
for now !!......and,when the meccanic sistem will be understand, other will came....the best will came!! step by step
FIRST DATA you have to evalue the tube that came from the pool to the underground level showed in the #1 picture after the fhoto:
that in the semple is 15 cm of diameter,
176 cm2 X 60.00 mt of delevell from surface pool to undergraund water level,
is about 1020 Kg = 10 000N
that PULL on the pump ex: left
(@BAHammer...you can see as you wont, 6atm =6kg/cm2 x 172cm2 = 1020kg x 9.8 = c.a.10 000 N !!)
when you need to UP a WEIGHT, you have to reduce the Nm that result on/at gear-box,
less then this levell (10 000Nm); exemple in diseig 4000 kg , need gear 4:1 ( 9 900Nm ex: on right of pomp)
the resistence (loud) is less then the water power (heavyness of water column);
10 000Nm win on 9 900
and, what s happen?: <-------:
the pull from water win and the water go DOWN the tube (from the pool) and then the loud go UP
then, when you need to put down the WEIGHT you will use a gear 40:11
and the heavyness from the LOUD, put on the pump 10 100 Nm in the other side (ex: right side).
this drags a water flow (and the pump versus) to reverse versus, -------->
because 10 100 Nm win on 10 000 still Nm traction from the 60 mt long water tube.
the loud go DOWN, and the water is pomping UP
IT WORK as a BALANCE,
charge weight up ------>short gear----> discharge water down to bottom of sink
charge water up to pool ------>long gear-----> discharge weight down
easly, and notthing else (for now!)
and the SECRET is find a point in perfect balance on conic-gear ,
then, a little short go loud go UP, a little long loud do DOWM
at the same time water go DOWN, or water go UP !! really easy a lot !!
whit this sistem, you can SAVE close that all the energy-water used befoure....
called also "discharge energy recicled"
(naturally, if the hi ness of stat point and end point is on the same level)
total power also emprove by rain ....
VERY IMPORTANT:
is that the two mouths of the tube can not breath air , one on water subterrain, and other in waterpool
hammuraby ,
There are 2 things that could help this work.
The first is to use a multiple set of blades for the water to flow over on it's way down. And the second is to have room under the blades for the water to fall.
This might allow you to have a sufficient static head to push water up the other side. This would require less suction of the up pump.
Other wise, heated water under a vacuum might require less energy to draw a suction on.
Jim
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coral_Castle
we begin to see if at least the BASES, are clear to all.
1) if my weigh is 102 kg and on part of a fixed pulley-weel I apply my force till (102x 9,8) 1000Nm
and therefore i will raise a weight till 100 kg
The ROPE will came in my direction .....
2) if the weight that I must raise e' of 200kg (1960Nm)
i will use a mobile pulley which give a relationship of 2:1;
while it pulls from a part 1000Nm against (1960Nm: 2)=980Nm
The ROPE will came in my direction ..... (not important, but ..... mt X2)
3) if the weight will be greater, i can use a gears with a greater rapport,
at least 4:1 if will to raise 400kg; 10:1 in order to raise 1000 kg… etc… etc…
4a) the forces aplicate trought the arms on the FULCRUM-GEAR , will be determined from relationship (4: 1, or, 10: 1), between two sides of the same one, like in a lever.... and this NM is a USEFULL DATA
THIS DECIDE the DIRECTION of the ROPE ( Coral Castle, if the water pump, or, fall)
4a) the relationship is like the arm on a BALANCE ….
between two opposite forces, the DOMINANT force determine the direction of the flow then, if I can rise , or, i go up boar.
own, like in a balance;
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Ciao Pota ti giro questo utile link http://www.wordreference.com/ per tradurre le parole che non conosci:
non puoi scrivere "carrucola" altrimenti in un forum come questo con gente da tutto mondo riesci a farti capire
Ti prego di continuare quello che scrivi è interessante e ci sono persone disposte a seguirti se riesci ad esprimere i concetti con le parole giuste.
per la cronaca...
IT carrucola = ENG pulley
suggerimento numero due: prima di pubblicare il post puoi usare il bottone "Spell Check" che ti fa un controllo ortografico e ti segnala le parole che non "tornano"
;)
Continua che ti seguo sul forum
Alessandro
Padova
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hi tuz, i had try to do what you say, and the spelling say ....good.
may be is not a problem of words, but how i make a sentence...
then, i had read something about your intrests.
you that speak and write a perfect English :
will you write what is your own thinking about??
my be you can help me to intrest someone to understand a system for a free-powered elevator, w/out power income needs.....
just sometime, when rain , collect a water from roof,and parking.......into the designed water-brik reffilled pool
but this work at the same in a building, whit a reservoir on roof; whit a 100% discharge power recycled
whatever, if you use that system for discharge a trucks or navy, you can have more power to recharge;
because the point that start the RISE is upper then the point of you place the loud...
many tanks for the attention
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when is read a basic fhisic datas exponed in reply#8
on how this sistem work, i try to link this data whit a sample in the picture:
the heaviness that pull in a tube (d 16 cm = 176 cm2)
from the pool (refilled whit fired brik, sicurity first of all !!)
to the underground water (60.00mt) is
ALLTIME 10 000 Nm
when you need to rise a loud like 6000Kg
the gear for be in balance is 10:60 on a conic gear box...
it will be raise whit 10:61 and the water go DOWN the sink..
then when you leave down the loud the gear have to stay on 10:59
at the same time the water is pomping UP in a waterPool
closed the cicle , you have wasted only less then 2% of the energy needed
usually for a lifter machine....
RESULTs: you can recharge the pool whit a elettric pump, and 1 kWh can make a LLOOTT of work befoure the accumulator-pool need a recharge; this possible by collect rain water!
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when you need to rise a loud like 6000Kg
"loud" is load?
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It's all interesting , but how can you explain that Ed moved ALL Coral Castle from another place ?
I doubt he prepared that new place previously,but nothing is impossible.
How an you explain heavy stones transport using ordinary truck ?
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mistaked....
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@justalabrat
yes loud was load, sorry
@forrest
at first, I hope that the technical speech remains divided between:
the MYTH,
and the possible method
that he used in order to astonish who was fascinated from this mystery….
and, i am sorry because I must smash a myth;
but is usefull to try to explain HOW HIS old work can reborn ,
because there IS so' MUCH profit to understand that TODAY, for use it....
( usable in his memory, is better then remember a death great mith, did you agreed? )
usefull understand , as this can to give energy to a system that is not OVER-UNITY,
but certainly that is FREE ENERGY. you do not pay the (a little water masses) rain need to feed that!
I believe that HE had moved the enormous stones, probably using a bridge lifter;
and the vertical and horizontal movement was guaranteed from according to the second "sailed" two way hydraulic circuit (jacks);
the first one is "open" from the pool to the sink
remember that this device is
NEW
system and is JUST BORN, and I wish that you can see that have a big possibility to develop....I KNOW that, but is necessary a bases condivided
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Sorry. I can't buy this.
www.leedskalnin.com
www.code144.com
And what I posted about the re-assessment of the items in the castle and how it looks across the universe.
Now lets drop these bombs...
The stone obilisks pertaining to water are for smelting purposes. The little pools of water in some of the stone blocks are part of the sextant operation of the castle. Everything can be seen in the park from on the step of the North tower that faces south into the castle.
There is so much B.S about it all even by the castle guides. Not worth the 10 bucks going in if you're ignorant. But priceless otherwise. Glad I went.
The walls have vertical and horizonal grooves which enhance the acoustics and harmonics. The ball court of Chichen Itza has vertical grooves on its outer sides also.
Ed also had a bottle horn on a rotating arrow head shaped rock. This part is the horizontal navigation of a 2 part crane. He used the electrified charges of the generator to produce the lift. That is the vertical part of the 2 part crane.
On the iron door there is an image of 2 planets and a sun in the middle. That is not a sun. It is an atomic nucleas with a frequency controlled orbit of an electron. I.E. Keely. Change the frequency and you alter the diameter of the orbit which in turns lends it to matter dissassociation or association. Turn crystals into sand. The other planet on the door lies in the Goldilocks zone ~21 million light years away. And the great men of today think they found it first. Go figure...
If you haven't been to the Castle then the mystery still pervades. The neighbors never heard any machine sounds only singing of sorts. And the next day the rocks were up in place.
And when the castle was finished it was a sextant, a chronometer, a communicator. Crystaline structures ring true.
--giantkiller. Make the trip.
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i am very proud to have had your attention…i follow all topichs....
but, i am sure that a NEW technique as i had explain, can give many possibility of development,
and be able to the acquaintance of many persons on this.....
especially, if this method is the axiom for being able to have a system whit a great energy production capacity, using a rain, but more using a water gravity distribution.... in symbiosis whit electric energy...
and VERY easy to reply too.
because a system that leaves from: SUPERFICIAL water rain management (refilled pool), and, that uses also drainage sink,
much profit can be done in the system "smart grid",
this also IS base for a system "into island" ,
with this ACCUMULATOR-pool in head of low voltage grid (territorial carryer) .
and with function of convergence of all the renewable energy
i can also call it a ITALIAN WATER DEVICE exponential lifter of masses
or SMART GRID NEEDed...emproving
, if this hurt your trusts, about Coral Castle
but will remain that Ed used a lot of tackles....
or, do you think that egiptyans 400 ac, was better then us ? he say....
then, i can show some photo that can help my ideas,
but CERTAINLY, is not a question on who between US , have the reason!
the question IS :
the device can work as I say? this is or not a good device? this is NEW ?
my wish is go on and develop this technique whit you,
and put exclusively the attention on the device, after...will change name to topic??
will be possible.....
kind regards mirco
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If that vertical pipe along side of the generator runs down into the ground water basin Then you would have a place for one of the conductors to go.
--giantkiller.
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If that vertical pipe along side of the generator runs down into the ground water basin Then you would have a place for one of the conductors to go.
--giantkiller.
One thing about static heads, you calculate by the smaller one. this might be because water is not compressable.
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mt English is just from school; i wish to understand what you say;
i think that "one of the conductors" means a :
une head pipe here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dry_well
and the other head pipe is drowned in a surface (refilled in fired-brik!!) water pool
OR?: there is not a generator !! if you use this , the generator can have a 90% efficiency; and another 90% the motor = 81% for rise a load; and 81% for lower it !
in a full cycle , rise+lower, you lose a 35% (0.80x0.80 = 0.64)
this is JUST an idro-meccanical gravitation device....
we can put on some elettrical sistem, but is useless for rise-lower....
we will see
that a conic gear can save close then 99% of the energy in a lift work
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@ GIANTKILLER
did you mean.....this ? you very smart, plus then smart grid !!
answere:
surprise : NO!! there is not the necessity of a sink!!,
you can do that, and put the machinery,
in every point on a pipe that use a gravity distribution from a pool,
in every point, on a pump there is two force that work:
a poll action +, end push action+ = SAME force
1Kg/cm2 every ten meter of the delta <x> of levels, from the pool to discharge point
(thet is >++> if you discharge on bottom of sink, naturally)....
naturally, not on water pipe that came from a eletric pumps directly....
the capacity of accumulation-
storage and the gravitation distribution is the only necessity needed,
but i will explain after....
@ giantkiller
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can you see this as a accumulator for a BLOK ? that use meteoric water in raining land as italy, india or...,
and: as a accumulator for a village in africa.??...store for sun energy
this sistem....can grow a LOT, someone there??
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I meant the negative lead/wire from the generator goes down the pipe to the water table or well.
--giantkiller.
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hi giantkiller, no elettricity is involved in this project, for now....
is a simple tech mechanical. direct !
this can be used for a power storage of energy caming whit a "surface water gestion",
using rain collected from URBAN surface and send into a "GARDEN as babylon";
when the basin is full, you leave that the water go down the sink, and the equivalent energy can be used to pump a water in a basin that is on mount of water grid....
emprover of storage-water =accumulation energy
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@GK
I think @hammuraby may have something.
I work in water treatment and pumping and pressure and suction methods.
Think of this.
It is said that the wheel has 24 (I think) horse shoe magnets. The size of that wheel structure is so robust that the energy it could produce is substantial. But how do you turn the damn thing and with what? The magnets would still have been exposed to the infernal sticky spot. Like any such magnet wheel will stick. But the funny thing is your can give such a wheel a good nudge left or right and it will turn in that direction until it stops again. It will turn in either direction.
So............................. what if the water flow is not used for 100% of the driving energy, but only 100% of the nudging force required to keep that huge wheel off the sticky spot. That may be only 5-10% of the total energy produced. All you would need is a way to turn the output shaft in the same direction regardless of the wheel direction. That wheel could turn either an electric generator or a hydraulic pumping system or even an air compression system. It does not matter. As long as that wheel stays off the sticky spot who cares.
Hmmmmmmmmm.
See photo:
A: Looks like a large flywheel but it is never seen in the recent site photos.
B: Looks like a water run generator or pump.
C: His hand is actuating this lever that could simply be a two-way water check valve. Turn one way water flows down, turn the other way, water flows back up.
D: Could be 24 magnets or simply 24 gear teeth that may be hitting that winch type box E:
E: Looks like a winch box with a chain coming out the bottom side.
The water flow idea could have some merit.
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Is that another Bessler Legend?
Something , that has been buried with the finder and
now tried to be interpreted by an old photo?
I am in doubt, if nobody figured out more concrete in all these years.
best regards,
sushimoto
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A. is a bicycle.
B. Is a pipe.
C. Is a turn handle for spinning the stator.
D. There is no gearing
E. is an electrical generator
The axle of the stator goes below and is connected to a 2 section crankshaft. This in connection with the bicylce could have been used for a drive mechanism. But then he died of stomach cancer..
The wooden blocks under D. & E. are for the wire wound glass bottles. They are on the wall and there are loops of holding wire on each end of the wooden blocks to hold the bottle based inductors in place. One small diameter for the neck and wide diameter for the base. He also used square wire. The funny thing is nobody at the castle has ever assembled the device configuration to see what it does. And they wouldn't let me, either.
The coils hang on the wall.
You guys are confusing the basic of operation. Stand on the step on the North pinnacle, face South, look side to side at the walls and you see a 3d view that is not posted anywhere. It is a pinncle point in the Universe of the ultimate precession for a certain date. 8) :o ;) :)
Don't speculate. Make the trip. Same as 'Build it'. You can't possibly imagine anything correctly until you laid your eyes upon the deep insight of the mystery. Am I to be the only one? Stand on that one spot. The only thing I missed is coordinating my trip to the alignment of the local angles to the stellar placements.
Get the GPS off of google. Enter those into a program similar to 'The Sky'. Position the observer view horizontally for a 180degree Southern scan. Run through a time scan and watch when the rising of Saturn and the other heavenly bodies arise over their respective statues on your left wall view. The chairs and pointers inside the castle walls will also eventually line up with their prospective targets. The little bear chair is Ursa Minor. This points to a habitable a planet in the Goldilocks zone. The measurement is on the iron door. +20million light years. Why did he display this? On that same door he has a bell with a note by the other planet that states 'Ring the bell twice'. Reference Keely for 'Sympathetic Vibratory Physics' and heterodyning. Look for Dale Pond in Amazon.
This goes far deeper than the rabbit hole. There, I spilled the beans.
--giantkiller. Anybody else you know this? Don't spin your wheels any more... Spin the Universe. This can be done in these times.
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GK
How could that little Heartbroken man Know all of this?
SOUNDS AMAZING And the clues you have seen their ,also AMAZING
Chet
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hei,@ Giantkiller, i try to understand ,and now I have a headache.... like a human , no xtra...
may be a star on my head ! cioccolath !
i enjoy on see you do a advocate of Mr Ed....many time that He is my study partner !
BUT if I follow what you say:
for go into another age of humanity, is only to make a coil whit space time,
then cross the spiral... and you are in 2200 dc or 2300 ac
BUT this do not raise a blok-stone at the same...
ant this is the difference between theory an practice. (listen Albert Ainstain...)
make a nine test;
= the gravity device is working!!
the usefull device, can make a reborning mith for Mr ED...
geniality is on heart, not in mistichism; or NOT ??
kind regards from milan
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http://www.antigravitytechnology.net/john_worrell_keely.html
The symbol in the upper right is Egyptian.
http://www.amazon.com/Universal-Laws-Never-Before-Revealed/dp/1572820039/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1236378496&sr=8-1
I read Ed went through Philadelphia on his entry to the U.S. The Grand lodge is located there. www.code144.com
He worked stone, no? A minor task.
If you look at Keely, Tesla, Leedskalnin you will have everything you need to accomplish your wildest dreams. A liitle bit of what you already know is vital but don't let the rest get in the way.
The current day examples of these men are John Hutchison's works. He associates, dissaociates, & levitates matter. There is no more puzzle. Buid it and open a door.
--giantkiller. 'Nuff said, eh?
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GK
I mean this with all respect!!
YOU SHOULD WRITE A BOOK [OR A CD]
I would buy it
Chet
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The only books necessary have already been written.
--giantkiller.
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hi Mr, GK
I have some things I would want to give to see you,
counting on yours ability' to estimate the thing for what the thing is , itself.
first: if this rudimentale but effective technology obtains the same effects of ED's tech,
because not to see however the value?
I am sure of being able to demonstrate that what I have write till now,
is not more then 1% of the functions that this thing can do!
second:i am opened to your suggestions, changing name if necessary, because can be call also:
a) generating from rains collection
b) booster of capacity of energy storage ,
with a cubic meter down -1 a cubic meter is sent up +1;
and with half m3 from +1 to -1 half raised from +1 to +3 etc.
using 2 you have 1/2 x 4 ( +3 to -1) in level as BABYLONterrace-pool
c) displace of gravitational energy usureless, and need only one generator on hydraulic net
d) it is convergence-accumulator for all the renewable sources, to use for the city-block, or, for an African village… and many other things
e) base for distribuited energy....
into smart grid sistem, is necessaire have a accumulator between a userS and elettric grid
NB: this can use in surface, using a gravitation water grid, like ON anti-fire tap.....need pool only
because the take of force can be placed evrywere on water column, on head or bottom !
can you help me to show how much is NEW this??
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This involvement would create a tasking for me. I am involved in other sessions right now and cannot be taken from them.
Would you be able to produce a small scale demo from hardware store parts? Or do you need some distance between objects for potential generation and storage? As in a big build / large project?
Make a movie and post on youtube under the phrase overunity. Show the math, show something and give explanations. Ask for help publicly. You will get valid answers from a larger group.
Google some of your terms and read what comes back.
With what you say you have, then make proof. You must do physical work and make demonstrations.
--giantkiller.
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@GiantK
I haven't shame to tell that i am too poor, for make a system working...
as a student...(sht: 41 y!!)
but i can tell you certainly that:
it was from a lot of time ago that was used force from work (animal or...) for win the gravity, and pumping a water from the sink;
and more time the us used a water gravity for make a work force
but alltime this was only a one way device.... hidrodinamic etc etc...
now is possible whit a hydrostatic powered device make a easy two ways.....
and be certain that if some call me for a work, there is something UNBELIVABLE into the ways for develop that
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i am really upset, because i have the certainly that this device can work, and can make a "difference" whit all the accessories that is possible put on a device....
tankyouGK , .....but all the math is allready done,
and there is a substantial difference;
but here, in this topic , no person look what there is incorrect...a big mistake!!
that i know, but it (the mistake) is here for make easy the UNDERSTANDING
for 60 mt of the delta of altitude, no matter how much is big the pipe that go down;
the pressure is 1Nm /cm2 every mt between levels, on the "turning arms" of the pump
@ GK i am "looking for a help".....
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@hammuraby
I think your idea has merit but you have to be patient with guys here because we are mostly all already working on other things, most are already putting most of every free time on things and it is very difficult to get help on such a big thing like Coral Castle.
@GK is right to say you have to go and see the site to understand, but then, the owners there will not let you play around with what is there. Next time I go to Florida, I will go to see it and take lots of pictures.
I think if you make a plan and go see some big local plumbing company and ask them if they are willing to participate in your research on Coral Castle. Maybe they could lend you some 100 meters of piping, two tanks and a pump, etc and if you find a good place that has the same elevation difference to do some tests.
You could tell them to imagine if with their help you could solve the Coral Castle mystery, this would be good for their publicity.
If the principle of water down flow/up flow can be shown as valid, this will be a great advancement.
I don't really know what to say more. There are many theories about the place and the last one to come out if you see @GK reference to the videos shown here. www.code144.com
This seems to have some very convincing math and physical closeness to the place, but you know what, numbers can be interpreted in many ways to fit an idea so maybe they are very convincing but also very wrong. Who knows????????????
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http://www.antigravitytechnology.net/john_worrell_keely.html
The symbol in the upper right is Egyptian.
http://www.amazon.com/Universal-Laws-Never-Before-Revealed/dp/1572820039/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1236378496&sr=8-1
Hmm... Have you seen Hans von Leiven's site on Keeley? If not, check it out. ;)
I read Ed went through Philadelphia on his entry to the U.S. The Grand lodge is located there. www.code144.com
He worked stone, no? A minor task.
For a Stonecutter I mean Mason, is what you're saying?
It's not the cutting that is remarkable, it's the fact that he moved tonnes of stone around without any cranes or nothing...
... and of course believers claim he did this using free energy that he made by some mysterious means...
If you look at Keely, Tesla, Leedskalnin you will have everything you need to accomplish your wildest dreams. A liitle bit of what you already know is vital but don't let the rest get in the way.
LOL yeah I've heard that before. But I've studied all three, one more than the other but still all 3, and I cannot say I have really
found anything I "need to accomplish my wildest dreams" in any of their stuff, except for that of Tesla.
And even there it's not really "my wildest dreams", but more some very impressive and interesting work by the man.
I have tried for a long time to figure out what exactly is so great about Leedskalnins stuff, and I still don't see it.
What Leedskalnins papers seem to show is a total layman's study into the observable effects of current and magnetism
and their interactions. His papers describe very simple experiments and observations that appear to accord with
those done in the early days by electrical pioneers, except that he jumps to conclusions here and there and takes
those assumptions as facts and builds on his rash conclusions, to finally end up with a model that accords with
his theory including assumptions but that is not entirely supported by his experiments at all. And in the end he
seems to conclude the same observable effects in various circumstances, he just blindly couples that to his
earlier assumptions... But there's nothing remarkable or new in the actual replicable effects, it's just Ed's
own model that differs, and zero reason to conclude that his assumptions are truly like he assumes them
and not like standard physics established them by observation.
Can you give an example of how Leedskalnins ramblings provide usefull new insights that could possibly
lead to over unity effects??
Or how in any other way his papers can "make your wildest dreams come true"??
The current day examples of these men are John Hutchison's works. He associates, dissaociates, & levitates matter. There is no more puzzle. Buid it and open a door.
Yeah, and pay a hellova power bill too. Oh, did you mention that you'd need to replicate John's entire apartment including all of the
high voltage generatores, vandeGraaffs, old radar equipment, the odd Tesla coil, and what not? That is the only way to replicate what he's doing so far.
And that is obviously because well, it was an accident that the "Hutchison effect" was produced due to interference of all these freaky high energy devices.
It is not like Hutchison designed a device that can do it, it is the interplay of all his machines together that happen to generate zones in his apartment
that cause objects and metals to do really weird things like levitate, melt, etc. So yeah, he is doing that, but not with a setup he intentionally designed
to do these things. He was just firing up his high energy devices and turning various knobs randomly, when he stumbled onto the phenomena.
--giantkiller. 'Nuff said, eh?
Lol well no, but intrigued, yes. ;) ;D
Regards,
Koen
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@wattsup
""If the principle of water down flow/up flow can be shown as valid, this will be a great advancement""
Tankyou for make a curiosity on this topic, because i have a lot of accessories to put on, making this a change in a energy ; management of surface waters !!.
1)and USE A SINK AS VERTICAL PIPE then
2)turn a gravity power into air compressed.
3)tirdh but FIRST, a water bowl refilled as accumulator BABYLON'S GARDENs
using somethings as the picture that you see under....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victory_garden
for Koen1:
i have read a lot on coral castle; and i am at the same point of you, Ed was friend of Tesla...
But if I am friend of YOU, or GK , that don't means that i cam make a CPU...
i had at first, check this video ;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wO5ASxjwi14
MAXFORCE ENGINE
because e lot of pieces and spare parts, show that the only free energy device can be similar to OUR HOPE is that;
but trust me...impossible explane this whit his theory;
here, maxpower, is "just" a mechanical setup
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FOR AFRICA needs
you can put on this a wind- air compressed generator..
wave up-down generator.....
top secret: management of surface waters, whit garden as BABYLON
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>the "Hutchison effect" was produced due to interference of all these freaky high energy devices..
I’d be scared to drink a glass of water in John’s appartment.
If I spilled it I might get zapped into another dimension.
Cliff,
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2 small Tesla coils and a handheld transducer video. Associated crystals into batteries. Many equipment hijacks by the federales. Association of dissimilar metals into new materials even modern day physics can not explain. Disassociation of base metals without hardened tools or physically touching it. Levitated objects. I reference documented sightings by witnesses and the U.S. government. Keely fried his hand permantly crippling it and 3 weeks in the hospital from an advance testing of one of his devices.
Look up quanta.
See ya in Chizchen Itza. I am going to physically find something out. I got the money and the time. After 30 years I don't spend my time behind a pc anymore.
--giantkiller.
ps. Two bicycle mechanics wanted to fly and now we are mechanically outside the solar system and visually at the end of the Universe. But wait! Man was not meant to fly! Don't waste your time if you can not dream of a better place.
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hi, GK
there is one thing that we are at the same.... don't waste a time, and dream (not too much) a word as a better place. but, the dream can help ONE to live better; and the dream is useless to give a better lives, and place to other...
is for that I find a tech that is not done for make a person fly; But just water enough for the necessity;
and because the energy IS water; enough for the energy too.
secondary effect : the clean air too....and food enought, too....
i wish that somebody can see a little of the GREAT as I know , on This device;
and give me a hand...
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this is really an overvalue of ancient civility, first Babylon .....then....ecc ecc
I AM at FIRST a prof. on ancient tech of water !!!
the bigger mistake of a XX century man was give water from pumps;
no problemS everywere if the tech to done Water for gravity will be develop.
but be certainly that the maya, and many other civilization was MORE EXPERT of US, on the water tech...and sound strange : maya, expert in atomic dissociation...
good luck at the same
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Hi all.
That pipe next to Ed's wheel is 42 1/2" deep....it sits on the ground like the rest of the wheel.
Somebody I know stuck a tape measure down there.
http://leedskalnin.net/ (http://leedskalnin.net/)
The magnets are from the model T Ford flywheel
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did you mean this
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the force was take from the heavyness of the water in the pipe 42.5 mt = 42N cm2,
no elettricity or else......and, two way flow, for recicling brake energy ....
for a shifter conic, there is necessity of the famous "flyng weel"
and can be better....
all the spare parts need is this
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for GK , if you looking for sometingh like this, ask me....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykFqb5shvSs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8FjtkKx50I
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somebody.....
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somebody intrested on management of surface water ??
all usuryless like a water-fall...
NOT perpetual movement , but usuryless idro-energetic infrastructure, whit flowS...
this.....is the right solution
usefull for store energy from FREE in the night
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.........3)tirdh but FIRST, a water bowl refilled as accumulator BABYLON'S GARDENs
using somethings as the picture that you see under....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victory_garden
did you listen about Michelle Obama that listen-read OUR forum...
for win the crisis a new
Victory Garden in the Withe house.....
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/isabel-cowles/an-obama-victory-garden_b_143309.html
but, remember, whit a impermeabilized bottom, and refilled whit fire-brik,
for save rain water....
as a Babylon garden at land level.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victory_garden
a civility on water will have certainly a win against a oil civility "MS italy"
in coral castle you can rise up a weigth, but IN FUTURE, can also
send up a water to upper water-POOL........
terrace on the mountainside = many levels
and conversion of gravity in air compressed = many snow
air compressed stop a tornado and hurricane, or not? YYYEEESSS
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The man himself stated it was done with weights and leverage. Fulcrums and pulleys plus a little math was all he needed. Thats why it took him 30 years by himself. If he would have had any type of hydraulic system it could have been completed much quicker.
Jmo!
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When Ed moved his whole operation to another location in a few days with a three quarter ton truck all by himself, that feat alone ruled the use of weights and pulleys.
Has anyone ever taken the time to record the length of the wire Ed had 'hanging around'...shown in one of the photos ?
Regards...
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Fulcrums and pulleys plus a little math was all he needed.
Jmo!
hi, that is true, but you miss one thing: from where he take a FORCE.....
is not easy to self-made one device working whit a water-gravitation alone as is show in the first post,
sorry, but i am not able to understand if you agreed whit my theory....??!,
or you think that he use a arm-force; because this is unbelivable;
Ed, was close to 50Kg heavy.....
there was this device....and now IS secreted, because if you can understand how much is powerfull in raining state;
believe me that this can make a thingS change,
expecially in a finance Oil-market...
not less than an antigravity device, because at same utility, same chage is possible;
same work = same effects
don't care if came from a futuristic tecnology or a
rewiew of an ancient technic, IF that "done the same work!"
mirco sangalli
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you think that he use a arm-force; because this is unbelivable;
Ed, was close to 50Kg heavy...
Yes. A proper fulcrum and pulley setup can lift thousands of pounds. This can include inclined planes. You could set up a large weight with a pulley system to apply as much force as needed to the other pulleys.
Whether Ed used water hydraulics with it I dont know. It just seems unlikely.
Coral is perforated though, and if the coral blocks were saturated with water then it may be possible to lift it with water pressure alone. An easy experiment to do if you have a small block of coral to calculate the amount of force to lift it with water.
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If it was somehow possible to raise 30 ton monuments on to the bed of a half ton truck...what process would be used to stop the truck from collapsing under the weight ?
I'm thinking Ed encircled them with wire charged with a frequency known only to Ed...causing them to temporarily lose their critical mass properties.
Regards...
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If it was somehow possible to raise 30 ton monuments on to the bed of a half ton truck...what process would be used to stop the truck from collapsing under the weight ?
I'm thinking Ed encircled them with wire charged with a frequency known only to Ed...causing them to temporarily lose their critical mass properties.
Regards...
Possible with frequencies.
find out the tibetan have demonstate this secret technology (i think 1942)
with 4 different musik instruments- with exactly dimensions, as diameter of drums.
etc (about 20 mens half circle around the
stone) that weighte tons and can ELEVETATE over 20 Meter to place this
rock to an higher place. Lot of this historical documentation was to find in
english also in german (i think last at "borderland". That was very fine described .
Possibly E.L. find that frequencies , so he can move tons of rock , with own
power ...
Possible it is to find in net... ask borderlands. archive org enz.
I have more the 10K links from last 7 jears, unsorted- i have the avove stored in head,
this is enought that you can find..
Pese
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Hey Pese,
I recall that Ed was said to be heard singing to the coral stones...something I feel is an important component of his work.
Over on the 'joule thief' thread they make reference to the coil making an audible sound which they tuned into silence.
I'm wondering if the frequency of that sound could be tuned to accomplish what Ed did by looping the secondary coil around an heavy object ?
Regards...
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f it was somehow possible to raise 30 ton monuments on to the bed of a half ton truck...what process would be used to stop the truck from collapsing under the weight ?
There was only one rock that was 30 tons. Most were around 20 ton. When he first moved the site he may not have had the 30 ton yet. I know he told the driver on the first 20 ton he loaded to go somewhere.
The driver heard a crash a minute later and went to see. The truck was loaded and the tires went way down. If it was in fact a 1/2 ton the full weight was still on it. Good suspension maybe but I doubt if it was a standard 1/2 ton truck on the 30 ton rock.
If he used some type of "Alien" method then I consider him a weasel for not sharing the method.
"Look what I can do and you cant" mentality. If he was a Mason with a Masonic secret and he was under threat of death, hes still a weasel. I detest secret societys. They serve their own before mankind and that tells me power and money.
Jmo!
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i hate the secret too, but i trust that there is a lot of secret in the US wine-cellar....
and I hate also who excange a opinion (good if rest "opinion") whit reality--- soggettivity Vs objettivity
for those that think to a frequency for make antigravity, can be.... but not in Ed research;
i had read all, and this studyes talk about a magnetic sYstem, not at all about antigravity!
my be , there is same thing that somebody do not wont to see, yust for feed the mith....
FIRST: the mystere can be : "from where the force was caming?" and not how he rise the weight...
because the fhotos show ,he was working whit crunkle and polley
SECOND: the driver talk enought for take avay the mith of half ton truk; the truk was heavy, and fully loaded, no device help to make ligh the weight....
and for those that say that can be possible to rise a weight of 30 tonn only whit crunkle, JUST try to do that...whit out energy, elettric or from hidrocombustible...NO POSSIBLE !!
the trut can be in the middle , (as usually!!)
there is a secret device, secreted for heavy impact on a OIL market sistem
there is a 42.5 Mt long tube that came to the bottom of sink.....
this can put a 40Nm/cm2 on a point of force-pomp. ( depends on what way work, rise or down)
can you say something on THIS NEW DEVICE , and if you wont......joined also other thing, on your "politically" trusting.
BUT something new, and true.... my be is more intresting, for a free energy forum
then whatever opinions
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any questions?
none see what great improvement can be done , in the next time...
water is free...wathever the device is not OU...
but remenber that i can last a charge in a idrodinamic, but at last is better a charge that a .....notthing
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here a accumulator for a system, the third part of the picture
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hammuraby,
I read everything in this thread, and after all I don't have clear picture of your idea. Can you create simplified drawing (side view) of your idea with all parts needed? So it would be easy to understand.
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Hi everyone good day ;D
what i understand here is that leedskalnin made a simple chain block ;D
and a Jack ;D
am i not right everyone lol ;D ;D ;D ;D
long time secret is just a chain block and a jack technique ha!,ha!,ha!,ha!,ha!,ha! ;D ;D ;D ;D
i think we can say that he is the first one who used an electric chain block or jack.
well he is still a genius!
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Hi Tito,
Good morning to you too ;)
Most likely Leedskalnin was using an electric chain or jack.
But my questions are:
1. How he was generating electricity?
2. How he was moving 30T blocks without any help?
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Hi Tito,
Good morning to you too ;)
Most likely Leedskalnin was using an electric chain or jack.
But my questions are:
1. How he was generating electricity?
2. How he was moving 30T blocks without any help?
I guess that is still a mystery . ;D
well for me, i believe that anything that you want to do as long as you are happy, you can do it with the Lord.
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I have a question.
What did Ed say he was using? Did he say frequencies and electricity? or levers and pulleys?
I find it interesting that certain frequencies could cause levitation of such a large object.
What is happening within the coral to cause the mass to shrink?
I tend to believe at this point that Ed was very clever with the lever. Nothing more. I can lift 6 ton easy with a lever, and that's without even thinking about lever placement, but just calculating the lever length.
How long did it take Ed to load the truck? 5 minutes or 8 hours?
Maybe he used a combination of levers and frequencies. If he reduced the mass with frequencies to 1/4 of the original, then the rest is easy to explain.
I don't think Ed lied about what he was doing. I tend to believe those who discover things like this, have no reason to lie, when they can simply be quiet and their secret is safe.
Those committing fraud would lie, not those who actually discovered something.
"Soulshine, its better than sunshine, better than moonshine, and damn sure better than the rain!"
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i saw a documentary about this, and there is one particular rock that he supposedly could channel energy depending on its orientation
whether it holds any water is a different story, he could have used hydraulics, more outside the box, maybe instead of lifting them up he just dug underneath them after putting them in place
i saw a person lift a mock obelisk by expanding a bladder with air underneath it, which could employ both a lever and hydraulics system
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Wasn't it Ed who said he had made more electricty using steel then he had copper?
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After pondering about this for a short while I have discovered how anyone of any size can lift any size block to any height, with the use of simple tools like a block and tackle, jack, levers and blocking.
All you need is time. This also solves the issue of how the pyramids were built.
Critical thinking is such a wonderful thing!!!!
If you had 6 strong men and 1 person placing blocks you could lift a 20 ton block 5 feet off the ground in a matter of 1 to 2 minutes. Levers would be implemented to start with but then discarded and nothing but physical force from the men would be needed.
:D
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Ed did it all with mirrors...none of it is real.
He cleverly disguised mirrors to make everything look huge...when in reality it all fits in a shoe box hidden under the illusion of a giant toilet in the back garden.
Apparently he whittled it all out of pumice stone.
That Ed...he sure had me fooled for a while.
I found all this out when Art Bell had world famous psychic and intuitive Clara Voyant on for an hour one night.
I hope this clears up the Coral Castle mystery once and for all.
Regards...
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Cap z
EXCELLENT!!! that made me laugh out loud!!!
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*takes modest bow*
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I find it funny that Ed left a full explanation of what electricity is, and yet nobody cares for it.
He wrote the fundamentals for all quantum experiments and it goes un-noticed.
He confirmed Tesla's theory of energy propagation through the Earth and himself, tested the ionosphere reflection theory claiming it to be false, but nobody has spoken of it.
Was it not Ed who demonstrated this many years ago?
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/10/091011071349.htm (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/10/091011071349.htm)
Ed wrote:
"The drawing on the front cover is like the perpetual motion holder I made.
If I run North and South pole magnets from a car battery (car battery is stronger than zinc battery) in those two coils while the laminated iron cross bar is across the iron bar prong, and fill the iron bar orbit with magnets, then those North and South pole magnets will never stop running around, they will run around until the cross bar is pulled off."
"If perpetual motion holder's North pole prong is put East.
South pole prong West, and then elevate the cross-bar's center up to tile South pole vertically hanging magnet, then the magnet will swing South and when the cross-bar's center is elevated up to North pole vertically hanging magnet, then the magnet will swing North.
The cross-bar's ability to swing the North and South pole magnets. off its center will remain as long as the cross-bar is not disturbed. It has little power but it could be made stronger by making bigger dimensions."
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Ed was able to demonstrate what the scientists have struggled all this time for.
The scientists only get an indirect measurement.
Quote from the science daily article (The team used nanoscale cantilevers, an entirely novel approach, to indirectly measure the current)
This is what Ed says,
"The trouble with the physicists is they use indirect and ultra- indirect methods to come to their conclusions."
Best wishes
Scotty.
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Ed did it all with mirrors...none of it is real.
He cleverly disguised mirrors to make everything look huge...when in reality it all fits in a shoe box hidden under the illusion of a giant toilet in the back garden.
Apparently he whittled it all out of pumice stone.
That Ed...he sure had me fooled for a while.
I found all this out when Art Bell had world famous psychic and intuitive Clara Voyant on for an hour one night.
I hope this clears up the Coral Castle mystery once and for all.
Regards...
I was told by a very competent scientist that it is kept secret that Ed used a special formula solvent which was able to dissolve any coral block in minutes into a clay like mixture. Ed then basically used spade to move it on a truck.In the final place he just manually and using tool formed block again (that usually took a quarter to half of hour) ,sprinkle it with another substance and let dry in sun for a few hours.
When in dissolved state block lost all air normally contained in coral and it's mass was 1/100 of original .
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I was told by a very competent scientist that it is kept secret that Ed used a special formula solvent which was able to dissolve any coral block in minutes into a clay like mixture. Ed then basically used spade to move it on a truck.In the final place he just manually and using tool formed block again (that usually took a quarter to half of hour) ,sprinkle it with another substance and let dry in sun for a few hours.
When in dissolved state block lost all air normally contained in coral and it's mass was 1/100 of original .
Funny !
1/100 of the mass was air , so it shrunk , it got more compact , not lighter , try moving just one tonne with a spade, lol 30 minutes ...
Dissolving maybe , but not like that ...
He tried to tell us something first magnetic vs electric are at 90 degrees nothing new here , but he gave more details a third dimension, the coil at 90 degrees from the iron core but need to be tilted at an 15 degrees angle , to make it not 90 but 90+15= 105 ...
Also he figured out the true cause of gravity , that is the sun ...
Once you think differently different doors open.
Iron push and pull , he made more electricity from it ...
Mark
He was using the wheel to move rocks not to make electricity , he was moving magnetism in a iron chain to the block , now day time earth is positively charge and night negatively ... he use to do it at night , with to solar winds coming from the ground up unlike at day time .
Now can we get a tuning fork for earth ?
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Quote from Mark:
" He was using the wheel to move rocks not to make electricity , he was moving magnetism in a iron chain to the block , now day time earth is positively charge and night negatively ... he use to do it at night , with to solar winds coming from the ground up unlike at day time ."
Except that Ed moved his monuments by truck in the daytime.
Most of his work was done at night to avoid prying eyes.
There is a lot we don't know...he always seemed to know when someone tried to sneak a peek at night...he obviously had some way of detecting proximity of approaching humans, because people reported that he would speak to them in the dark.
This is evident, as NO ONE has ever reported witnessing what he did.
Regards...
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I was told by a very competent scientist that it is kept secret that Ed used a special formula solvent which was able to dissolve any coral block in minutes into a clay like mixture.
Your scientist friend would be in the very INCOMPETENT group if that's what his assessment is. Removing air would make it heavier.
Where do these people come from?
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If Ed was producing gamma radiation he could have been distributing this ionizing frequency potential into electron cascade events that would produce a very polarized field. Real Negative as untold amounts of electrons create a virtual electrostatic capacitor. Ionized cores move differently than electrons under the influence of a magnetic field. This creates a capacitor whose microfarad rating makes an ultracapacitor not so ultra at all. Shorting this capacitor through an iron cable network would create alot of magnetic field anomalies. Especially if the inductance forms a grid and bounces the capacitor discharge back to the scource over and over and over again until the currents in the oscillator are billions of times more powerful than the exciting currents. Up Up and away.
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sparks,
That's a very interesting approach.
My first question would be, What does the apparatus look like, and how was it built? :)
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Your scientist friend would be in the very INCOMPETENT group if that's what his assessment is. Removing air would make it heavier.
Where do these people come from?
He he actually it was only a joke.I'm glad that your were not mistaken ;D
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After talking with quite a few on this site, It could have went both ways. lol
At least yer not in the box. hahaha
Its been a rough day. I got up this morning .... put on a shirt and a button fell off. I picked up my briefcase and the handle came off. I'm afraid to go to the bathroom.
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Hi everyone good day
i think Ed is a great sculptor ;D
and that will finish the mystery! ;D
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All except for the part where Ed moves all these huge "sculptures" 50 miles down the highway tied on to a 3/4 ton truck in short order.
Whereas an engineer estimated moving the entire lot would take significant numbers of massive machinery with reinforced suspension many months to accomplish the move.
That seems to be a tough one for Ed's doubters to get around.
Regards...
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@ALL,
i have had the pleasure of adjusting crane rail beams of up to 280,000 lbs. with simple hand tools that you can carry in a 500 lbs. max basket lift. and my partner weighed nearly 250 lbs. so i am familliar with the weights you are talking about. that beam came in on a semi truck with twenty one axels, and a lot of escort. i would hate to think of what my little, "heavy chevy", would look like with a thirty ton chunk of anything on it! oh my!
lol
sam :o
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This is interesting this thread. I think the answer is resonance. This guy would use that wheel of magnets and find resonance to those blocks and create anti gravity.
I heard of buddhist monks who does certain mantras and lift huge rocks maybe it was with the same technique for coral castle.
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This is interesting this thread. I think the answer is resonance. This guy would use that wheel of magnets and find resonance to those blocks and create anti gravity.
I heard of buddhist monks who does certain mantras and lift huge rocks maybe it was with the same technique for coral castle.
The buddhist uses this "techonolgy" or practices for fusion your body's and he's mind with "everything" (cosmos), it's right.
But, in the Ed's writings, he said one thing, i quote he's words:
You know sunlight can go through glass, paper and leaves, but it cannot go
through wood, rock and iron, but the magnets can go through everything. This
shows that each magnet is smaller than each particle of light.
Please, all knows that if a wave length is less that particle size, this wave can pass through, but magnetism... unnmm, i can't stop thinking in that.
edit: personal note, I mean that I practice Buddhist meditation, and learned a lot with their practices.
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This is very interesting.So magnetic static field can go through wood,hmmm
what about magnetic field disturbance ? can we induce electric field in stationary wire by moving a magnet but when wire and magnet are separated by wood tabletop ?
I'm not sure but I guess that we can.Could somebody confirm ?
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Hi forest, I'm not really qualified to answer your question - but I don't think that wood itself is known to be magnetisable - but nor does it restrict the path of a magnetic field. In other words one can attach two permanent magnets on either side of wood and they stick - obviously providing that their strength is sufficient or that they're both near enough to be influenced by their two fields.
I think that Ed's right. I'm not sure if there is any material that can actually 'resist' a magnetic field - in that sense. And I'm fascinated by Ed's thinking.
Regards,
Rosemary
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@forest
Yes you can. In a generator the stator is wound with wire inserted into slots in the laminated steel and the magnets or electro magnetis swung around past the copper in the slots. There is a magnetic circuit and the slot between the rotor and the stator represents a resistance to the magnetic circuit. The air gap is minimized to increase the efficiency of the alternator generator or motor. The biggest inefficiencies of an electric motor or generator is the magnetic circuit that is not parallel to the armature slots. All the current through this part of the winding is waisted. I have seen the end laminations of a stator overheated to the point that they warp and comprimise the insulation system. The problem could be mitigated by filling the slots with just a single conductor and creating the rotating magnetic field by phase pulsing different sections of the stator. The stator could be manufactured at a fraction of what it costs. The winding being the most expensive thing to produce as well as being the most inefficient part of the motor. The impedance a fraction of what is now used because of the arcahic distribution of low frequency ac. We would be far better off to have high voltage dc scourced to the pole out front. There a converter inputs highfrequency low voltage to the end user. The only benefit ac had to offer at the time were installation costs being far less than maintianing a motor generator set to step down the voltage to safe levels to enter dwellings. In order to eliviate the capitol outlay of installaing and maintaining motor generator converters at each service drop they would run a seperate wire to each service drop from centralized mg sets. Westinghouse and Tesla develop the ac transformer which allows for far less capitol investment easier to insulate but totally less efficient than dc distribution. This bull shit about having to move electrons all the way through the wire and back to the plant is just left over bullshit from the warring corporations trying to rest control of power generation. Fuckem both we got energy right close to home. Least till it gets down to o degrees Kelvin.
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Hi Tito,
Good morning to you too ;)
Most likely Leedskalnin was using an electric chain or jack.
But my questions are:
1. How he was generating electricity?
2. How he was moving 30T blocks without any help?
#2 is easy, if you know how.
The man himself stated it was done with weights and leverage. Fulcrums and pulleys plus a little math was all he needed. Thats why it took him 30 years by himself. If he would have had any type of hydraulic system it could have been completed much quicker.
Jmo!
It can also be done without any pulleys or chains, if you know how. Ed said he used weights and leverage, then that is what he used and I have no reason to think otherwise.
It's not the cutting that is remarkable, it's the fact that he moved tonnes of stone around without any cranes or nothing...
Regards,
Koen
If I said a person can move and erect 20,000 lbs without any pulleys, chains, cranes, or heavy machinery......would you say I was crazy? More than likely, because you don't know how. What about moving a Barn? There really is nothing remarkable about this, once you know how.
Man moves massive blocks in his backyard using simple contraptions, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCvx5gSnfW4
GB
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Thanks for the link to the video GB. That was great.
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Very cool. Patience of the mouse beats the giant.
One might even design a seesaw jack out of wood. Beats having to stick under a new stick or board each half cycle.
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That old man's real world wisdom sure puts the scholars and engineers to shame. What a great story!
#2 is easy, if you know how.
It can also be done without any pulleys or chains, if you know how. Ed said he used weights and leverage, then that is what he used and I have no reason to think otherwise.
If I said a person can move and erect 20,000 lbs without any pulleys, chains, cranes, or heavy machinery......would you say I was crazy? More than likely, because you don't know how. What about moving a Barn? There really is nothing remarkable about this, once you know how.
Man moves massive blocks in his backyard using simple contraptions, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCvx5gSnfW4
GB