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Author Topic: Coral Castle 50 year old secret - NOW here REVELED  (Read 47792 times)

Offline hammuraby

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Coral Castle 50 year old secret - NOW here REVELED
« on: February 26, 2009, 02:42:03 PM »
hi, i am a student-thesist on many many other item that is energy related....
<b>befoure of all the .DEVELOPPEMENT DURABLE</b> (infrastrutture) = gestion of surface water
whit chanalization on altimetric isobare...
and...gravity distribution
as BABYLON 2300ac

(++ water pression conversion inTO air compressed befoure turbinage....
conversion for make SNOW! )- territorial laws,

THEN , recicled braking energy sistem
 and SMART GRID sistem...
BUT....many many other;

a little time ago i have found a person very upset about the CORAL CASTLE mistery;
ha remind to me , that i was able to understand "how that is work".....
then i try to explane to you

is a question of de-balance the NM using a gear....
recicling ALL the descharge energy

1) the heavyness (10 000Nm ) of water column  (es diseign: 15cm tube for 60 meters)
from the pool to the bottom of sink can give a force trought a meccanic sistem ,
for upper  4000kg for 25 cm, whit a 4:1 gear...
then the water go down the sink "IT-pozzo" to undergraund water level

2) if we change a gear to 40:11 the loud go down for 27,5 cm ,
and when the weight go down the water flow will be reversed, and the water is pumping from the undergraund to the pool "IT-vasca"
and THIS can  replace ALL the energy-water used ,
by feed-back to ACCUMULATOR-POOL

I whis to be clear....and easy....
look befoure a fhoto from CC...
then a sistem....

NB:excuse me for my little english...i am italian from bergamo-milan

i wait your comments....if use a easy english,  i can answere more soon
« Last Edit: February 26, 2009, 05:30:44 PM by hammuraby »

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Re: Coral Castle 50 year old secret - NOW here REVELED
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2009, 10:18:22 AM »
por have a perfect idea, on "what can be done for a commercial usa" safety and perfectinament of this
i try to explain this:
AT FIRST the water pool in surface have to be made easy, whit the bottom impermeabilized in film plastic, or what else, THEN refilled whit gres,broke... fired brik; aVERY idroassorbent material, and very GOOD filter for water;
MUST: because this make a pool safe, the pool will be look like a garden "suspended" BABYLON

TECH:
SECOND whit a conic gear (or automatic, elettronic drived) you have to find a balance point:
when the rapport between is short, the water go DOWN from the pool to the sink, and the loud go UP
when the rapport is long, the loud go DOWN , and the water will be pumped UP from sink to the pool

THEN the exit that was designed meccanicall, can be oil-pneumatic (best will came)

START TO REACH A RAIN WATER in refilled pool
« Last Edit: February 27, 2009, 12:18:51 PM by hammuraby »

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Re: Coral Castle 50 year old secret - NOW here REVELED
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2009, 01:01:26 PM »
I'm having a little trouble following you, half of what you say is very unclear...

but what I get from your posts is that you suggest Leedskalnin used a water "wheel"
powered generator in the form of a reversible pump with his coils and magnets
attached to the wheel,
and that he used some setup where he had water flow from a tank into a sink,
via the waterwheel/pump, then had the waterflow through the pump reverse
causing a flow from the sink to the tank, and repeating this cycle...?

What I don't follow is how you propose to reverse this water flow
and still make use of the water pressure to power the waterwheel+generator. ???

And I suppose your explanation for his construction of the Coral Castle and moving
the extremely heavy blocks is that he simply produced lots of electricity and used that
to lift and move the blocks?

regards,
Koen

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Re: Coral Castle 50 year old secret - NOW here REVELED
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2009, 01:28:18 PM »
I'm having a little trouble following you, half of what you say is very unclear...

but what I get from your posts is that you suggest Leedskalnin used a water "wheel"
powered generator in the form of a reversible pump with his coils and magnets
attached to the wheel,
and that he used some setup where he had water flow from a tank into a sink,
via the waterwheel/pump, then had the waterflow through the pump reverse
causing a flow from the sink to the tank, and repeating this cycle...?

What I don't follow is how you propose to reverse this water flow
and still make use of the water pressure to power the waterwheel+generator. ???

And I suppose your explanation for his construction of the Coral Castle and moving
the extremely heavy blocks is that he simply produced lots of electricity and used that
to lift and move the blocks?

regards,
Koen

  Something like that might be possible. If the pipes go into the ground, then the heat transfered to the water could make it rise.
 Some similar things are being done with heating buildings by this type of set up.

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Re: Coral Castle 50 year old secret - NOW here REVELED
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2009, 02:07:16 PM »
for @ koen
at the first you are right,
 but no elettric power is intoduce,
 because if you convert a power whit a generator the rent can be  0.9
then a rent of elettric motor is 0.9, (0.9 x 0.9 = 0.81) you luse 0.19 ,
plus ++ 0.19 when the cicle will be reverse motor in generator and generator in motor...
0.8 x 0.8 = 0.64  total waste of energy is 35%

coral castle was only idro-meccanic, no air compressed, no elettricity, not.....
« Last Edit: February 27, 2009, 07:27:46 PM by hammuraby »

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Re: Coral Castle 50 year old secret - NOW here REVELED
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2009, 02:32:38 PM »
I read what you wrote yet I still don't really follow... sorry :(

Perhaps someone who does get the point could rephrase
this so that it becomes more understandable? :)



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Re: Coral Castle 50 year old secret - NOW here REVELED
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2009, 03:44:25 PM »
I read what you wrote yet I still don't really follow... sorry :(

Perhaps someone who does get the point could rephrase
this so that it becomes more understandable? :)




  Koen,
 About the only way having a 60 meter pipe would matter would be the compressive forces the water would be under. It would be equivalent to about 6 atmospheres.
 This is what makes me think a part of the design has to do with transferring thermal energy.
 Any time a fluid is compressed, it gives off heat. Just check your refrigerator. The refrigerant is placed under pressure and gives off a lot of heat. Then when it goes into a vacuum chamber, it absorbs heat.
 I think this system might be something similar in principle.

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Re: Coral Castle 50 year old secret - NOW here REVELED
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2009, 03:49:15 PM »
with all respect, hammuraby, install firefox and with it install spellingchecker (really works great), it is very unreadable what you're typing.
Leedskalnin is an interesting subject.

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Re: Coral Castle 50 year old secret - NOW here REVELED
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2009, 07:15:34 PM »
excuse me for my english, one more time.....
i had read about heat, or about electricity, and air compressed
NOT at ALL, forghet it , for now ...,
that is not necessaire, here is just meccanical sistem
for now !!
......and,when the meccanic sistem will be understand, other will came....the best will came!! step by step

FIRST DATA you have to evalue the tube that came from the pool to the underground level showed in the #1 picture after the fhoto:
that in the semple is 15 cm of diameter,
176 cm2 X 60.00 mt of delevell from surface pool to undergraund water level,
is about 1020 Kg = 10 000N
that PULL on the pump ex: left

(@BAHammer...you can see as you wont, 6atm =6kg/cm2 x 172cm2 = 1020kg x 9.8 = c.a.10 000 N !!)

when you need to UP a WEIGHT, you have to reduce the Nm that result on/at gear-box,
 less then this levell (10 000Nm); exemple in diseig 4000 kg , need gear 4:1 ( 9 900Nm ex: on right of pomp)
the resistence (loud) is less then the water power (heavyness of water column);
10 000Nm win on 9 900

and, what s happen?: <-------:

the pull from water win and the water go DOWN the tube (from the pool) and then the loud go UP

then, when you need to put down the WEIGHT you will use a gear 40:11
and the heavyness from the LOUD, put on the pump  10 100 Nm in the other side (ex: right side).
this drags a water flow (and the pump versus) to reverse versus, -------->
because 10 100 Nm win on 10 000 still Nm traction from the 60 mt long water tube.
the loud go DOWN, and the water is pomping UP

IT WORK as a BALANCE,
charge weight up ------>short gear----> discharge water down to bottom of sink
charge water up to pool ------>long gear----->  discharge weight down

easly, and notthing else  (for now!)

and the SECRET is find a point in perfect balance on conic-gear ,
then, a little short go loud go UP, a little long loud do DOWM

at the same time water go DOWN, or water go UP !! really easy a lot !!

whit this sistem, you can SAVE close that all the energy-water used befoure....
called also "discharge energy recicled"
(naturally, if the hi ness of stat point and end point is on the same level)
total power also emprove by rain ....

VERY IMPORTANT:
 is that the two mouths of the tube can not breath air , one on water subterrain, and other in waterpool

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Re: Coral Castle 50 year old secret - NOW here REVELED
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2009, 12:13:49 AM »
excuse me for my english, one more time.....
i had read about heat, or about electricity, and air compressed
NOT at ALL, forghet it , for now ...,
that is not necessaire, here is just meccanical sistem
for now !!
......and,when the meccanic sistem will be understand, other will came....the best will came!! step by step

FIRST DATA you have to evalue the tube that came from the pool to the underground level showed in the #1 picture after the fhoto:
that in the semple is 15 cm of diameter,
176 cm2 X 60.00 mt of delevell from surface pool to undergraund water level,
is about 1020 Kg = 10 000N
that PULL on the pump ex: left

(@BAHammer...you can see as you wont, 6atm =6kg/cm2 x 172cm2 = 1020kg x 9.8 = c.a.10 000 N !!)

when you need to UP a WEIGHT, you have to reduce the Nm that result on/at gear-box,
 less then this levell (10 000Nm); exemple in diseig 4000 kg , need gear 4:1 ( 9 900Nm ex: on right of pomp)
the resistence (loud) is less then the water power (heavyness of water column);
10 000Nm win on 9 900

and, what s happen?: <-------:

the pull from water win and the water go DOWN the tube (from the pool) and then the loud go UP

then, when you need to put down the WEIGHT you will use a gear 40:11
and the heavyness from the LOUD, put on the pump  10 100 Nm in the other side (ex: right side).
this drags a water flow (and the pump versus) to reverse versus, -------->
because 10 100 Nm win on 10 000 still Nm traction from the 60 mt long water tube.
the loud go DOWN, and the water is pomping UP

IT WORK as a BALANCE,
charge weight up ------>short gear----> discharge water down to bottom of sink
charge water up to pool ------>long gear----->  discharge weight down

easly, and notthing else  (for now!)

and the SECRET is find a point in perfect balance on conic-gear ,
then, a little short go loud go UP, a little long loud do DOWM

at the same time water go DOWN, or water go UP !! really easy a lot !!

whit this sistem, you can SAVE close that all the energy-water used befoure....
called also "discharge energy recicled"
(naturally, if the hi ness of stat point and end point is on the same level)
total power also emprove by rain ....

VERY IMPORTANT:
 is that the two mouths of the tube can not breath air , one on water subterrain, and other in waterpool


  hammuraby ,
  There are 2 things that could help this work.
The first is to use a multiple set of blades for the water to flow over on it's way down. And the second is to have room under the blades for the water to fall.
 This might allow you to have a sufficient static head to push water up the other side. This would require less suction of the up pump.
 Other wise, heated water under a vacuum might require less energy to draw a suction on.

                                                                                           Jim

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Re: Coral Castle 50 year old secret - NOW here REVELED
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2009, 10:52:13 AM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coral_Castle

we begin to see if at least the BASES, are clear to all.

1) if my weigh is 102 kg and on part of a fixed pulley-weel I apply my force till (102x 9,8) 1000Nm
and therefore i will  raise a weight till 100 kg

The ROPE will came in my direction .....

2) if the weight that I must raise e' of 200kg (1960Nm)
i will use a mobile pulley which give a relationship of 2:1;
 while it pulls from a part 1000Nm against (1960Nm: 2)=980Nm

The ROPE will came in my direction ..... (not important, but ..... mt X2)

3) if the weight will be greater, i can use a gears with a  greater rapport,
at least 4:1 if will to raise 400kg; 10:1 in order to raise 1000 kg… etc… etc…

4a) the forces aplicate trought the arms on the FULCRUM-GEAR , will be determined from relationship (4: 1, or, 10: 1), between two sides of the same one, like in a lever.... and this NM is a USEFULL DATA 

THIS DECIDE the DIRECTION of the ROPE ( Coral Castle, if the water pump, or, fall)

4a) the relationship is like  the arm  on a BALANCE ….
 between two opposite forces, the DOMINANT force determine the direction of the flow then, if I can rise  , or, i go up boar. 
own, like in a balance;
 
« Last Edit: February 28, 2009, 07:38:25 PM by hammuraby »

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Re: Coral Castle 50 year old secret - NOW here REVELED
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2009, 05:41:05 PM »
Ciao Pota ti giro questo utile link http://www.wordreference.com/ per tradurre le parole che non conosci:
non puoi scrivere "carrucola" altrimenti in un forum come questo con gente da tutto mondo riesci a farti capire
Ti prego di continuare quello che scrivi è interessante e ci sono persone disposte a seguirti se riesci ad esprimere i concetti con le parole giuste.
per la cronaca...
IT carrucola = ENG pulley
suggerimento numero due: prima di pubblicare il post puoi usare il bottone "Spell Check" che ti fa un controllo ortografico e ti segnala le parole che non "tornano"
 ;)
Continua che ti seguo sul forum
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Re: Coral Castle 50 year old secret - NOW here REVELED
« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2009, 07:27:51 PM »
hi tuz, i had try to do what you say, and the spelling say ....good.
may be is not a problem of words, but how i make a sentence...
then, i had read something about your intrests.
you that speak and write a perfect English :

will you write what is your own thinking about??

my be you can help me to intrest someone to understand a system for a free-powered elevator, w/out power income needs.....
just sometime, when rain , collect a water from roof,and parking.......into the designed water-brik reffilled pool

but this work at the same in a building, whit a reservoir on roof; whit a 100% discharge power recycled

whatever, if you use that system for discharge a trucks or navy, you can have more power to recharge;
because the point that start the RISE is upper then the point of you place the loud...

many tanks for the attention

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Re: Coral Castle 50 year old secret - NOW here REVELED
« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2009, 01:06:38 PM »
when is read a basic fhisic datas exponed in reply#8
on how this sistem work, i try to link this data whit a sample in the picture:

the heaviness that pull in a tube (d 16 cm = 176 cm2)
from the pool (refilled whit fired brik, sicurity first of all !!)
to the underground water (60.00mt) is
ALLTIME 10 000 Nm

when you need to rise a loud like 6000Kg
the gear for be in balance is 10:60 on a conic gear box...
it will be raise whit 10:61 and the water go DOWN the sink..

then when you leave down the loud the gear have to stay on 10:59
at the same time the water is pomping UP in a waterPool

closed the cicle , you have wasted only less then 2% of the energy needed
usually for a lifter machine....

RESULTs: you can recharge the pool whit a elettric pump, and 1 kWh can make a LLOOTT of work befoure the accumulator-pool need a recharge; this possible by collect rain water!

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Re: Coral Castle 50 year old secret - NOW here REVELED
« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2009, 07:10:58 AM »

when you need to rise a loud like 6000Kg
"loud" is load?

 

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