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New inventor of a Watercar (Bike)
« on: January 17, 2006, 08:19:10 AM »

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Re: New inventer of a Watercar (eng.) and power from a Pyramid (ger.)
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2006, 11:28:38 PM »
Here is the website of Steve Ryan

http://www.biosmeanslife.com/

Too bad he did not yet publish the way he modifies
his water.
Maybe something simular as the new Linnard Griffin
watersplitting process ?

It seems he makes some special electrolysis, where the
water is just a bit splitted and the hydrogen still
is in the H2O solution stored somehow and
then maybe in a modified ignition engine burned.

Look here for a motor that also runs purely on water mist
just via a powerful sparkplug system:

http://waterpoweredcar.com/1978camero.html

I guess it is better to split the topics and post followups
about the pyramidelectrical power output in a seperate thread.

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: New inventer of a Watercar (eng.)
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2006, 08:49:30 PM »
Here are questions concerning the possibility of a scam with water fuel, and particularly the motorcycle video.

First, why is everyone using carburetors when no auto manufacturer uses them any more?  My automotive experience tells me that the only reason for some sort of fuel delivery system is for the sake of fuel delivery tailored to the type of fuel.  If one is not using a fuel that needs atomization, then they should directly inject the fuel into the combustion chamber.  Simple, and easier to control.

Second, why is everyone using an existing vehicle as a test bed.  I liked the idea of the dune buggy because there are less places to hide anything.  If one truly wants to eliminate any negative issues, one must be open.  The best idea is a frame, a seat, and the drive train.  While one may hide the proprietary details, he must clearly eliminate any possible alternative fuel source.  There cannot be a fuel tank.  There cannot be a separate creation of the fuel from somewhere else.  It must be done in the vehicle by only filling a clear tank with water.  The creation mechanism must be in the vehicle.

Third, there is no way that the water fuel will cause the emissions test to show carbon if none was used, unless the guy is adding a great deal of oil to the crankcase every day.  That can be confirmed by independent testing.

These scam artists are not nuts, they are simply very crafty individuals.  We need to be smarter.  They cannot be allowed to corrupt the real research being done by many others.  We need to require all to adhere to rigid standards of conduct and product presentation.

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Re: New inventer of a Watercar (eng.)
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Re: New inventor of a Watercar (Bike)
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2006, 12:15:54 AM »
Hi All,
now we know, how it works !
Walter Hofmann has just found out,
that one can store hydroxy gas inside water !

If you make an electrolysis and run the produced hydroxy gas
through water or just use the water, where you made the electrolysis,
then some hydroxy gas is just stored inside this water !

You can also see it in the Byronnewenergy.com
video,
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2385750951725931938&q=Byron+New+Energy

where they fill up a balloon with some precharged hydroxy gas containing water
and then pump up the ballon with their mouth with some air
and this puts air pressure onto the water, which releases some hydroxy
and then when they light the balloon,
the water burns on the surface for a few seconds !

The same Walter Hofmann just did and it also exploded his ballon !

This seems to be also the same process as Steve Ryan is using !
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:BiosFuel

Although he seems to produce the hydroxy gas inside his water
probably in a different way in his special made tank...

Maybe he just uses special metals something like
Chemalloy dust powder in his tank...which also
can split water into pure hydrogen and oxygen
or something simular like Linnard Griffin?s redox process...

At least we now know, that hydroxy can be stored inside water
and that opens up a save way to store hydroxy fuel just inside
plain normal water !

Great new finding !
Many thanks to Walter to have verified it !

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: New inventor of a Watercar (Bike)
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2006, 01:38:26 AM »
Hi Stephan,

can you give Info where Walter has described this store-process. I have problems with this google-videos. I never managed to open one video there.
 Can you give some hint what version of realPlayer works for most formats. I have the version 10, but it permanently fails on .AVI, or has codex-errors etc.  I do want some reliable Player.

Thank you

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Re: New inventor of a Watercar (Bike)
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Re: New inventor of a Watercar (Bike)
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2006, 01:47:23 AM »
Walter just tried it with hydroxy gas charged water in a balloon
and the balloon exploded when lighted !

Youn can look at this:
http://waterpoweredcar.com/nz/60minutes_NZ_TV3_10_17_05.wmv

and the youtube video needs a current macromedia flash player, look here:

http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash&promoid=BIOW

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Re: New inventor of a Watercar (Bike)
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2006, 11:43:35 AM »
Hi Kator,
the store process is nothing special right now I just used the electrolyte from my hydroxy cells but which havent powerd for 2 to 3 weeks standing on my bench with open outlet. I did realise that there is some hydroxy in it still after this long time sitting on the bench as I try to find out if a little waterpump whould pull a vacuum or if it whould pull water too. I connected the little pump to the bubbler and because I couldnt close 1 inlet to the bubbler I used the cell connected to the bubbler like I sayd no power to the cell and to my surprise the pump did pull bubbles out of the cell for about 3 to 5 minutes. this means to me there is some hydroxy still trapped in the electrolyte or water what can easely be removed and like the test with the ballon shows mixed with lots of air I guess about 200 to 500 times it can be used.
If it is true that the water in the bubbler what is just plain water where the hydroxy did bubble through, shows the same results, then a mist blown in a engine together with lots of air could theorethical power a engine, I will find out.
greetings
walt


Hi Stephan,

can you give Info where Walter has described this store-process. I have problems with this google-videos. I never managed to open one video there.
 Can you give some hint what version of realPlayer works for most formats. I have the version 10, but it permanently fails on .AVI, or has codex-errors etc.  I do want some reliable Player.

Thank you

Kator



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Re: New inventor of a Watercar (Bike)
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Re: New inventor of a Watercar (Bike)
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2006, 11:58:07 AM »
Hi All,
Walter is right !
It is an amazing idea to store the hydroxy gas just inside plain water !

This is must be the effect Steven Ryan with his waterbike
and also Byronnewenergy are using !

It is amazing !
Just boil normal tap or destilled water until all air
is gone out of the water.
Then let it cool down without shaking too much and
then do an electrolysis in it so the produced hydroxy will
also go "into solution" in the water itsself.

Then this hydroxy gas charged water can be used to power
IC engine motors !

As oxygen can be stored in aquariumwater by bubbling air through it,
also hydroxy gas can be stored in water !

I wonder, what will happen, if you freeze this water then to ice ?
Will the hydroxy gas then also still be stored in it ?

Maybe it can then detonate when initial detonation charges are placed
into the ice ?

Well, but maybe then in ice form the hydroxy gas
stays longer in the water and does not diffuse so fast out of it ?

So this would be a very interesting and cheap technology to store
energy in water and transport it, whereever you need it !

Many thanks to Walter for verifying these ideas !

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: New inventor of a Watercar (Bike)
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2006, 12:44:42 PM »
Here:
http://www.biosmeanslife.com/products.html
they stated it, that they use Hydrogen stored in Water:

"Bio Fuels for combustion applications and ultimately complete conversion
to Hydrogen Enriched Water for all energy requirements."

So it is clear, they just put hydrogen
into the water.

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Re: New inventor of a Watercar (Bike)
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2006, 12:53:02 PM »
I can now imagine,
how I am going to buy 3 liters of hydroxygas enriched
ice and put it into my graphite powder fuelcell and
use the molten ice to power my flat via the fuelcell.

It should be possible to just change the water from
the graphite rods inside the selfmade
fuelcell and have new power then again...!

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Re: New inventor of a Watercar (Bike)
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2006, 01:48:10 PM »
... and if this baloon contain "whit spirits" = piritus , ethanol enz.
thatcan be mixed with wather ...?

this will also "burn" with a BLUE flame.


(Only to think about that possibility

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Re: New inventor of a Watercar (Bike)
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Re: New inventor of a Watercar (Bike)
« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2006, 10:47:37 PM »
Hi all
I did not have much time today, but i did a few short test with a ballon ( every test one sure) I used 10ml of water from the bubbler where i did run last time two days ago put it in a ballon blow the ballon up to the size of 6 inch with the compressor ( by the way I tested the size of the ballon how much water it whould push out of a gallon it did push around 3 liter ) then ignited the thing it did just explode like a normal ballon whould and the pieces flow away, then i used 10 ml of electrolyte from a standing cell blow the ballon up the same way and ignited it the boom was much louder but the ballon was not blown in pieces just raptured and did not flow away just fall of the ground. I probably should have used more electrolyte because my camera did not realy catch the flame. Now I need more ballon's. then I will try it again with more electrolyte maybe 50ml and also will use bubbler water after I used them.
Another curious thing was as I try to heat the pvc hose to fit over the ballone connector it gave a boom because there was probably same hydroxy still in it even that the hose was not used today and I believed it whould have evaporated. But it did not explode it did implode means the short blue flame run inside the hose for about 4 inches and di no damage.
OK this was the results from today.
greetings
walt

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Re: New inventor of a Watercar (Bike)
« Reply #12 on: October 12, 2006, 12:59:56 AM »
Hello Walter.

this is quite interesting. As you certainly know water stores many gases. I have a biologist from the EX-DDR, he runs a german website called

http://www.dichtes-wasser.de/. I had many discussion upon his dicovery of the dense-water.

He told me how to drive out gases in the most effective way : Supersonic sound.
Boiling water for 20 minutes has the same results but you need much more energy and the necessary cooling-down-process must be done very fast. So Supersonic-sound is most effective.

So you prepare the tap-water first by supersonic-sound-treatment at room-temperature. Do not use hot water with a transducer it gets wrecked !

What you need is a 60 to 100 Watt - Transducer and treat it fo 15 minutes or so.

Before you do the treatment you measure the ph-value of the water. For normal tap-water here in germany for example it should be 7.
After the sound-treatment ph-value can rise up to a maximum of 11 because oxygen and especially the acid-making carbondioxid is completly gone. This is just to make sure the gases are gone.

Then you do your electrolysis and try your test again but do not use Supersonic-waves to drive the hydroxid out that would be dangerous- for sure

Ok thats it. By the way what kind of cell do you use ? Do you have detailed info on this ?
There are really some interesting discoveries happening right now. In the meanwhile I will contact Mr. Ausgustin for better ideas. I think we can optimize the storage-capacity for example by doing the electrolysis under pressure- that is the gas is forced to go into storage-position like Co2 is stored in water under pressure, which is standard-technique.

I have to find out more about it


Regards and good luck Walter .

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Re: New inventor of a Watercar (Bike)
« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2006, 04:42:04 AM »
Hi Kator, ultrasonic transducer to release the air out of the water and pressure to put more hydroxy into it, is a good idea. But be cautious of too much pressure, as this makes hydroxy to explode faster. you can run the bubbler hose deeper into the water, which then the water in the electrolysiscell needs more pressure to overcome the water height to press the gas through.

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Re: New inventor of a Watercar (Bike)
« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2006, 05:23:35 AM »
I came across this recently form a fellow named Patrick Kelly? yahoo groups watercar
http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/sK8tRViMMPvF8TGRVyacxqIRTF33ajBE90ba6kMPTR5Yz4c3b1rDSsKhSe_gws2LbktlQVMCn0G2vFFoOVhCnmfSBPx6Zp_Y-WLhOA/D16.pdf

Claims over 300 litter per min gas production from the "water splitter" not "electrolyser"
using pulse dc wave 90% on 10% off over 40Khz, avg draw 10 amps from the car charging 12 V battery system

Some nice detailed schematics I'll try to upload the PDF it self just in case the above link cannot be reached.

 

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