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Author Topic: Curled Ballisitic Thermionics  (Read 38329 times)

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Re: Curled Ballisitic Thermionics
« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2009, 03:32:30 PM »
As much a bomb as proving the 2nd as the one-size-fits-all that it is - is  :)

The real problem will be the attention gained by the other 'Laws' rooted in the 2nd.

BTW: My favorite is the 0th. The people creating that should get a real job.

Yes - I can't call your work a 'heat engine'. 'Convertor' is much better. Possible application = magnetic refrigeration?
Not only does it remove heat from the box.... it circulates the air too  ;D

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Re: Curled Ballisitic Thermionics
« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2009, 03:32:30 PM »

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Re: Curled Ballisitic Thermionics
« Reply #16 on: March 01, 2009, 01:22:30 AM »
@BEP and All

The Laws of TD are called Laws, obviously, but what does LAW mean.

I looked up a dictionary

"A statement describing a relationship observed to be invariable between or among phenomena for all cases in which the specified conditions are met:"

Now this definition already means Thermodynamics is in trouble unless the word EVENTUALLY is used. Always there are microscopic violations, heat can flow from cold to hot in the micro world or for microscale time without any special device.

The people that got paid for the Zeroth or the 3rd were just mathematicians with a spare 5 minutes having already penned the Associative and Communicative Laws of maths.

The First Law is under attack every day at this website and the Second is not winning any friends.

If mankind did nothing else in science it should be to rename Thermodynamics as the First, Second ....... Assumtions.

Drumroll........................... and when you assume you make an ass out of u and me.

Regards Phil

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Re: Curled Ballisitic Thermionics
« Reply #17 on: March 01, 2009, 01:24:13 AM »
Assumptions

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« Reply #17 on: March 01, 2009, 01:24:13 AM »
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Re: Curled Ballisitic Thermionics
« Reply #18 on: March 01, 2009, 01:29:59 AM »
The real meaning of 'Laws' is not that they can't be broken or even avoided, but you get yourself in a heck of a lot of trouble if you do. (just don't get caught!)

@Phil

Have you seen the work of Gerhard Kainz?

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Re: Curled Ballisitic Thermionics
« Reply #19 on: March 01, 2009, 01:56:17 AM »
@BEP

The name does not ring a bell. I am guessing he is an obscure philiosopher that said

If there is a law, and it is broken but there is nobody to witness it being broken, then was it really broken or was it really a law?

Am I close?

phil

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Re: Curled Ballisitic Thermionics
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Re: Curled Ballisitic Thermionics
« Reply #20 on: March 01, 2009, 02:03:27 AM »
@BEP

The name does not ring a bell. I am guessing he is an obscure philiosopher that said

If there is a law, and it is broken but there is nobody to witness it being broken, then was it really broken or was it really a law?

Am I close?

phil

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Re: Curled Ballisitic Thermionics
« Reply #21 on: March 01, 2009, 12:14:05 PM »
Great Work Philip

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Re: Curled Ballisitic Thermionics
« Reply #22 on: March 01, 2009, 01:31:33 PM »
@Elisha,

There is more to come, the time of conservative science is rapidly ending.

With this proof so far it has been like a hot potato that the establishment does not know what to do with.

I will shortly be posting evidence that the most respected experts in the field have lost the debate.

Then we can shame them into honesty by an email campaign demanding for the sake of humanity that they admit the truth, even if it means they have to tell the World that they have been wrong.

Many times in history there has come a time when the science establishment has been turned upside down.

Thanks for your support Elisha.
Phil H

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Re: Curled Ballisitic Thermionics
« Reply #23 on: March 01, 2009, 02:11:21 PM »
@Phil

You have already stated so but.....

Do you see this function ( or the Gerhard Kainz info I mentioned ) working in other than a vacuum?
The reason I ask is the proof fits, in my mind. Unfortunately, here and almost anywhere else, proof is in the pudding.
I did just receive my vacuum pump but there is much more needed before I can experiment using vacuum. I'm far better equipped than the average experimenter but I keep hitting limits.
Are there any options to vacuum?



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Re: Curled Ballisitic Thermionics
« Reply #23 on: March 01, 2009, 02:11:21 PM »
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Offline Philip Hardcastle

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Re: Curled Ballisitic Thermionics
« Reply #24 on: March 01, 2009, 03:36:15 PM »
@BEP

Strange question but it is also a very interesting one.

Firstly re vacuum, they are very hard to get. Good vacuum usually requires getters to mop up gas.

The best vacuum commonly used was the CRT as an electron beam had to travel a large distance.

I do not presume to lecture here and excuse me if you already know all this.

Given Avagadro´s number being so big we see that even if a vacuum level is 1E-12 we still have billions of molecules in the average vacuum enclosure. Hence small gaps for thermionics reduce vacuum needs. If we take a figure of 100 billion molecules per liter when we have a hard vacuum then we see that if we take a cubic mm of that volume we can get down to 100,000 molecules count, meaning that it is still hard to imagine an electron stream passing through without collisions.

If we reduce a cubic mm to a cubic um then we get down to real empty space, so a few um (perhaps up to 20um) spacing looks good but it is so very hard to maintain what with vibration, thermal expansion etc.

Now back to your question, well it iss the case that quantum tunneling occurs also at such short distances so if you devise a thermionic convertor with no moving parts then perhaps a vacuum could be avoided. There is evidence of some very strange behaviour at fm distances and as such a cubic fm even at standard air pressure would have no molecules, I think that is right

femto is 1E-15 so a cubic fm is 1E-45 of a cubic meter which is about 40 moles, yep a cubic fm is usually empty. So if you had a device with such scale or even pico meter then vacuum would not be needed.

I am aware of some researchers talking about convertors at that scale (nano in fact).

Having said a lot about nothing HaHa.

Perhaps we need to look at it differently. What if molecules were our friends? perhaps thermionics could act upon molecules to create a wind much like the old air ionizers of old that used needles, they created a cool wind.

It is 1:34a.m here so I shall post this and in the morning will probably say it was a load of rubbish, but perhaps someone might see something in it.

Regards

Phil

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Re: Curled Ballisitic Thermionics
« Reply #25 on: March 01, 2009, 03:57:12 PM »
@Phil

Being consistently neglected by the main stream is frustrating for sure, but I greatly urge you to keep level head with this. It's already a common trend that inventors come front with lots of noise and boasting, then slowly fade away for whatever reason (most probably due the fact that these devices generally just won't work).

That is not to say that you shouldn't pursue acceptance in the future, but I would suggest you to come up with as solid proof of concept as you possibly can. Experiments by Fu and D’Abramo seem good enough to me, but if you regard the laws as unshakeable scripture, you will be prone to explain it away by other means like measurement error or radiation effect etc. It leads to a point where one uses the second law to prove the second law and will never investigate properly.

I probably have fairly high confirmation bias in my thinking, but even I want to see a functional device before I can fully belive it . You already said a small device is on its way, which is an excellent first step. Presenting it is the hard part, because people will try to explain it away. Probably the most convincing experiment would be to produce visible rotary motion and measurable drop in temperature inside a sealed calorimeter; isolated from all heat and radiation sources.

Getting it published in a journal will be difficult since controversy is ensured. Non peer reviewed publications might be a safer bet for initial publicity after you have a solid proof of concept. Not saying you should avoid scientific method, but it's better if people see this before it gets shot down unjustly. Maybe it's even worth it to rather convince an engineer or small manufacture shop before doing any real science, and let the scientists follow when they just absolutely can't deny it.

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Re: Curled Ballisitic Thermionics
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Re: Curled Ballisitic Thermionics
« Reply #26 on: March 02, 2009, 12:45:58 PM »
@retroworm,

I hear you but I am hear to test physics or to get others to notice the challenge to physics so that we all can advance. It would be good to get top level support so that important work can be done quickly.

I have a track record of creating technology and building it.

I am not looking for fame or for donations. I do however seek debate from the experts around the World so that I can prove that we do have a way of saving the World.

The thing is if you take a simple invention done by sony, it takes man years to get it to market.

I know first hand about getting inventions to market as I have done it before.

So I could do all this silently, as I did before, but I feel that if professors and experts were forced to admit that my theory is correct (meaning that they have to concede at least the possibility that the 2nd is flawed) then the roadblock in physics would be removed.

Then the govts around the world would have the courage to fund research into, not just my ideas, but all deserving ideas.

If I am right but only produce a little torque who will say it is a revolution?

Professor Fu has been ignored and no doubt others.

Maybe with the help of 10 physicists and manufacturing facilities I can make a device to power a car, maybe it takes 2 more steps than what I have disclosed.

Is it proper for ideas to be unsupported when they are there to help.

I have my feet on the ground. If no one wants to think, I will still do what I need to do, but if you want a solution to Global warming, I suspect it should be soon.

All the so called physics experts in the World should hang their heads in shame if they cannot find fault with curled ballistic thermionics but refuse to say so.

If it is right it means that we should stop govts and experts from saying "the only solution is ...Nuclear.......clean coal........carbon taxes........carbon licences.......

All cards need to be on the table and experts who are parrots simply regurgitating science chants.....though shalt not challenge thy professors....... though shalt hold unproved laws that we were taught as being absolute........all that challenge conventional thinking shall be cast out.

There are countless cases of science attacking science thinkers only to find out years later that they attacked the bringer of new truth.

This site is an opportunity for experts to come here and debate, if they have the courage.

I will shortly reveal debates with World experts that the press should reprint (but probably wont)

So retroworm, forgive me for getting frustrated but as they say evil (apathy, vanity and arrogance of the science establishment) flourishes if good persons do nothing.

Professor Shakouri........shame on you
Professor Nemanich.......ditto
more to come

I do hear you and thank you for your well intentioned and wise advice.

Regards

Phil


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Re: Curled Ballisitic Thermionics
« Reply #27 on: March 02, 2009, 12:47:59 PM »
I hear you but I am here to test physics or to get others to notice the challenge to physics so that we all can advance. It would be good to get top level support so that important work can be done quickly.

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Re: Curled Ballisitic Thermionics
« Reply #28 on: March 03, 2009, 10:30:49 AM »
Another professor has given the theory the thumbs up.

Wow I might actually get broad support yet.

I think i posted that I wrote to Professor Stephen Hawking.

Well no reply as yet.

Overly optimistically check the post each morning for a letter from Santa, sorry Stephen H.

Phil

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Re: Curled Ballisitic Thermionics
« Reply #29 on: March 06, 2009, 11:24:31 AM »
Dear Overunity Friends

I have posted the following to about 1000 scientists around the world today.



Dear Professors and People who care about the Earth,

Attached is a document setting out the basics for Curled Ballistic thermionics.

"overunity pls email me at pjhardcastle@gmail.com for a copy"

Anyone wishing to develop, manufacture and sell devices based upon
this theory are free to do so providing that they do not seek to
patent anything in their own name, or in any third parties name, that
comes from the information so disclosed.

In the spirit of open sourcing it is my wish that the technology be
tested and advanced as soon as possible for the benefit of mankind.

4 prominent professors now say that the theory is correct despite the
implication re the 2nd Law of thermodynamics. However should any
person make any investment in money, time or effort, they do so at
their own risk.

Obvious issues arise technically and I am only too happy to assist and
to keep everyone advised as progress is made regarding materials and
techniques.

Any good ideas are welcomed and will be shared.

I also ask that you convey this knowledge to interested parties if
only for debate.

If perchance a Nobel prize is ever offered for this theory, it is mine!

Best Wishes to all,

Phil H

 

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