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grayone

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Re: My Current Build
« Reply #60 on: March 06, 2009, 03:09:45 PM »
I just presented some evidence with the rehashing of Da Vinci's wheel; not even giving a dead man credit.




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Look again Bessler007

This is Da Vinci's
http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/museum/models/leo-whl.jpg
2 ball in a triple pointed track.

This is AB Hammer's
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3494.0
1 ball in a single chamber

Looks different to me.

More proof, your words no longer have any credibility.

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Re: My Current Build
« Reply #61 on: March 06, 2009, 03:10:46 PM »
P-Motion, Jim, BA Hammer, Whatever the f*ck you're calling yourself these days,

You totally have a sick obsession with Alan. I'd be willing to bet that 75% of your posts since adopting the name "BA Hammer" have had in some way to do with Alan. Didn't your parents ever tell you that the best thing to do when you feel someone is "harassing" you is to ignore them? Apparently this idea is lost on you. Instead you go on and on ad naseum about "Alan this, that and the other thing... Whaaa!" I suspect this is because it's easier to criticize him than to confront the fact that you have had exactly zero success (probably from lack of trying anything in reality) in your quest to create a gravity powered wheel.

Now I have no position as to whether or not Alan is truly harassing you or not. I don't care, neither does anyone else. What I do know is Alan has a large body of work that is very impressive where as you have nothing more than a series of poorly drawn MS Paint drawings that rely entirely on fuzzy math and your own deranged concept of physics. I'm sure you'll reply to this post belly-aching about how everyone's ganging up on you but you need to recognize that you've brought this on yourself by constantly complaining about how Alan's "harassing you".

This is not a forum for schoolyard bickering it's a forum for discussing possible ideas for a self sustaining, gravity powered wheel. Grow up already.

hahaha, well said, well said, I was quite ammused reading that :P

But yes P-Motion, this childish behaviour needs to stop here, if it continues, you will start to loose complete respect, and will soon become a "perpetual anoyance" 

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Re: My Current Build
« Reply #62 on: March 06, 2009, 03:25:43 PM »
You just found my blog, grayone?  You're a real Shurlock Holmes.

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Bessler007; I found your web page. You have it in for allot of people working on wheels. Your words no longer have any credibility.


These are not my words.

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So you will need to build it with good precision, and then watch it go around, and around.     ...AB Hammer




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« Reply #63 on: March 06, 2009, 03:42:23 PM »
[  Alex,
 Glad you find it funny. What you would also find funny is that Alan supports flywheel designs.
Why did he attack one ? Is this so he can say his build experience had taught him it wouldn't work ? Yep. That's because he built it. Then in this forum, he could use that to show he knows what he is talking about, credibility as he puts it.
 Tomorrow, I will have access to a scanner. I will show 2 different variations of the self rolling wheel.
One could be done with it on a stand. And I will also give the history, science and math that would show where the variation would have a better chance of working. this is where discussing an idea helps to understand it better. Something shown in the early post by alan that he does not support.
 I hope you look forward to seeing it tomorrow. I'm sure Alan is.     ;D

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« Reply #64 on: March 06, 2009, 05:03:58 PM »
[  Alex,
 Glad you find it funny. What you would also find funny is that Alan supports flywheel designs.
Why did he attack one ? Is this so he can say his build experience had taught him it wouldn't work ? Yep. That's because he built it. Then in this forum, he could use that to show he knows what he is talking about, credibility as he puts it.
 Tomorrow, I will have access to a scanner. I will show 2 different variations of the self rolling wheel.
One could be done with it on a stand. And I will also give the history, science and math that would show where the variation would have a better chance of working. this is where discussing an idea helps to understand it better. Something shown in the early post by alan that he does not support.
 I hope you look forward to seeing it tomorrow. I'm sure Alan is.     ;D

If you have found somthing of use, then I congratulate you, if you dont show what you claim then I will see you as just another "talker" as I once was, admitedly...

Alex

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Re: My Current Build
« Reply #65 on: March 06, 2009, 09:24:23 PM »
Greetings grayone

Thanks for your help clarifying what is really going on. It seem like only a 3rd party can do this. If you need my help, let me know. By the way, never mind Bessler007, he is still pissed off at Bessler Wheel for Banning him, and any one from there is subject to his ridicule and on his blog is just fiction, I wonder when he will give my name a false interview after calling and hanging and not responding but trying to have a phone record  for his so called proof. The so called interview with Ralph was a joke. Ralph told me about a strange phone call he received that asked if he was Ralph Lortie from Bessler Wheel then seem to loose connection. This is how I know for sure of his tactics. scumbagish IMO

 Alex said it best with his message to BAHammer
If you have found somthing of use, then I congratulate you, if you dont show what you claim then I will see you as just another "talker" as I once was, admitedly...

Alex

I have gotten tired of this game of BAHammer/Jim The tactic reminds me of kids on the bus. The first kid (Jim) pinches the crap out of the other kid (Alan/me) and when I hit him in retaliation he cries, Alan is hitting me, when he started it to try to get me in trouble. But all and all it is hard to ignore.

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Re: My Current Build
« Reply #66 on: March 07, 2009, 03:43:27 AM »
The so called interview with Ralph was a joke. Ralph told me about a strange phone call he received that asked if he was Ralph Lortie from Bessler Wheel then seem to loose connection. This is how I know for sure of his tactics. scumbagish IMO

You had to check with Ralph?  The disclaimer didn't give it away?  Too funny.

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Disclaimer: Any resemblance of any characters in this interview with actual human beings is purely coincidental.

You are a bright one, or you think you are.

Nice attempt to divert the point.   It's a yes or no question.

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I wonder when he will give my name a false interview

You just don't rise to that level, AB.

When you made this point up thread:

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I am not sure if you know this, but the C inside of the circle means registered copyright. If it is not properly registered you need to remove the circle. If I am not mistaken.

. . . you were mistaken.

When you made this point:

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I knew you wouldn't check it out, and for those who would like to know about the copyright emblem question. Here is the link. I was partly mistaken. When I have a question, I look it up

It didn't sound like a question.  It sounded like you 'knew' what you were talking about.  We saw you were taking out your ralph.

You lied when you said you were partly mistaken.  You were entirely mistaken.  Partly my ralph.  For those of you who would like to know "about the copyright emblem question?"  lol  And you cite a wiki answer post?



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Re: My Current Build
« Reply #67 on: March 07, 2009, 03:56:09 AM »
You had to check with Ralph?  The disclaimer didn't give it away?  Too funny.

You are a bright one, or you think you are.

Nice attempt to divert the point.   It's a yes or no question.

You just don't rise to that level, AB.

When you made this point up thread:

. . . you were mistaken.

When you made this point:
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It didn't sound like a question.  It sounded like you 'knew' what you were talking about.  We saw you were taking out your ralph.

You lied when you said you were partly mistaken.  You were entirely mistaken.  Partly my ralph.  For those of you who would like to know "about the copyright emblem question?"  lol  And you cite a wiki answer post?



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I am just human, and being human I make mistakes, but I will own up to them. But IMO you bessler007 are acting like a mistake. I knew about the call long before I ever read your blog and I couldn't help but to laugh and laugh it was so ridicules. I personally think you need some form of happy pill desperately. You are letting this grudge destroy you, from the inside out.

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Re: My Current Build
« Reply #68 on: March 07, 2009, 04:34:33 AM »
Well, we could be getting some where here.  When did you own up to that lie you told
Wed Oct 17, 2007 10:11 am @ besslerwheel?

Could you cite the specific apology?

I'm sure you're confused by all this posting yet greyone was looking for evidence of your lying and I simply pointed it out.


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edit:  There is a a very subtle point to be made here.  It just occurred to me.
« Last Edit: March 07, 2009, 06:12:25 AM by Bessler007 »

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« Reply #69 on: March 07, 2009, 02:41:26 PM »
Well, we could be getting some where here.  When did you own up to that lie you told
Wed Oct 17, 2007 10:11 am @ besslerwheel?

Could you cite the specific apology?

I'm sure you're confused by all this posting yet greyone was looking for evidence of your lying and I simply pointed it out.


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edit:  There is a a very subtle point to be made here.  It just occurred to me.

Sorry!! Due to your constant lying and deceiving, trying to play the grand inquisitor! Bessler007. As grayone said, your words no longer have any credibility.

 IMO, YOUR WORDS NO LONGER HAVE ANY CREDIBILITY. This may be the only response you will receive from me until you quit your bull $#!+ !! 
 When you start something more constructive like when I first use to talk to you, we can regroup and talk again.  Remember I was not your problem at Bessler Wheel and you started attacking me here on Over Unity. The evidence is clear, you where banned from there and I was not. I am still in good standings and respected. I am sure you have sneaked back in under a different name to spy. I would suspect, doe to some PMs I know who you are.

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« Reply #70 on: March 07, 2009, 03:51:25 PM »
Well, Alan Bauloree, I'll take you at your word that you'll stop trying to defend your indefensible position.

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IMO, YOUR WORDS NO LONGER HAVE ANY CREDIBILITY. This may be the only response you will receive from me until you quit your bull $#!+ !!

You seem a bit confused but I don't mind lending a hand.  I won't quibble over your assessment of the words but they aren't mine.  They're yours.  You need to stop projecting your words and your personal attributes on me.

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So you will need to build it with good precision, and then watch it go around, and around.     ...Alan Bauloree, Wed Oct 17, 2007 10:11 am @ besslerwheel

I understand it's not easy to man-up and admit you're a damn liar but you said you had no problem with that:

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I am just human, and being human I make mistakes, but I will own up to them.

I'm very curious if your words have any meaning.  It doesn't appear they do but I'll give it some time before I reach a conclusion.  Have you ever owned up to that lie yet?  Would you like to man-up and do it here?

I don't like jumping to conclusions as it seems is your habit.  It also appears you're projecting your anger on me.

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By the way, never mind Bessler007, he is still pissed off at Bessler Wheel for Banning him.

I'm not angry at all; just curious.  You do seem rather pissed though.  If you could do me a favor stop projecting your anger on me.  It reminds me of when you accused degreed physicists of being ignorant of physics on another forum.  Very silly.  Stop this silliness, Alan Bauloree.

I do have every intention of making the subtle point I spoke of earlier.




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Re: My Current Build
« Reply #71 on: March 07, 2009, 04:08:28 PM »
Sorry!! Due to your constant lying and deceiving, trying to play the grand inquisitor! Bessler007. As grayone said, your words no longer have any credibility.

 IMO, YOUR WORDS NO LONGER HAVE ANY CREDIBILITY. This may be the only response you will receive from me until you quit your bull $#!+ !! 
 When you start something more constructive like when I first use to talk to you, we can regroup and talk again.  Remember I was not your problem at Bessler Wheel and you started attacking me here on Over Unity. The evidence is clear, you where banned from there and I was not. I am still in good standings and respected. I am sure you have sneaked back in under a different name to spy. I would suspect, doe to some PMs I know who you are.


  Alan,
 I'm not mad at Besslerwheel for banning me. How many times have you brought that up ? I haven't.
I have tried working on build ideas. And you always repeat yourself saying they won't work or using math is a bad idea. That does get old.
 I did originally post that a self rolling wheel might not work, but might still be worth discussing.
 an example is if a wheel is 1 meter in dimater. With 4kg's of weight in the center and if it's linear motion was 1 meter per second, the weight at the axle would have the value 4kg's times 1 meter per second. Using Newton's p=mv here.
 If the 4kg's of weight is made to be 2-2kg weights and moved to the outside of the wheel, then their value is 4kg's times 3 meters per second. The outside of the wheel spins faster than it's linear movement.
 This would give the same amount of weight about 3 times the momentum. This is why I think using flywheels is not a good idea. It seems they develop less force for the same amount of over balance.
 I posted a drawing of this. The next step would be to use levers. And once again, by using math, a basis for a design can be configured as in the 2nd drawing. And the 3rd drawing shows the end result.
 Mathematically, it will work very well. even if it only rotates at 5 or 10 rpm's. And that is more than any proven design has been capable of maintaining.
 I've always found that being able to discuss things with people helps me to better understand this type of mechanics.
 And of course, if the 3rd drawing works, it is something I think will support Bessler.

edited to modify pictures

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« Reply #72 on: March 07, 2009, 04:58:33 PM »
Interesting idea, Jim.

I won't put all the elaboration into this subtle point I mentioned earlier as it seems there's something on the table for discussion now, yet the point should be made.

Alan Bauloree made this direct statement concerning copyrights:

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I am not sure if you know this, but the C inside of the circle means registered copyright. If it is not properly registered you need to remove the circle. If I am not mistaken.

. . . in a very authoritative manner.  What motivates someone to police others making sure they dot their t's and cross their i's? 

After researching the matter and settling for a wiki answer as opposed to one from uspto, he crawfished his position with this nonsense:

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I knew you wouldn't check it out, and for those who would like to know about the copyright emblem question. Here is the link. I was partly mistaken. When I have a question, I look it up.

Didn't sound like a question initially.

What motivates someone to suggest another put the art of their craft in a public forum unprotected?  I can only think of 2 reasons:

1.  Ignorance
2.  Desire to cannibalize other people's intellectual property

I won't pretend to know what Alan Bauloree's motivation was or that I've listed all possibilities.  I will forward this to the psychological department of MIB to see what conclusion they come to.

Again, interesting idea Jim.


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Re: My Current Build
« Reply #73 on: March 07, 2009, 06:22:24 PM »
Bessler007

IMO, YOUR WORDS NO LONGER HAVE ANY CREDIBILITY.


BAHammer/Jim

You stated >>You (I) always repeat yourself (myself) saying they won't work or using math is a bad idea. That does get old.<<

 If I was saying just that, you wold be correct. But that is not what I have been saying. Using "ONLY" math is a bad idea in this game, for math has never solved it. There are other factors that have to be understood and then the math can be corrected. Now for they won't work statement, this is due to I may have already tried it or something similar, not to mention physical experience tells you allot.

I hope this will at least clear up that idea. I had said you had posted the best I have seen "YOU" post. Understand. I never said that they would work, nor do I have need for others ideas, I have enough already. I offer help openly which is clear from my post if you pay attention. If someone else gets the wheel before me I will congratulate them. I will just try to design a better one for only the most powerful one will survive the competition cumming. Just a little insight to the future.

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Re: My Current Build
« Reply #74 on: March 07, 2009, 06:36:52 PM »
This just back from PsyDpt of MIB.

ANALYSIS:
  Subject is having s e x with acorns.

They're your words, not mine.




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