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Offline BAHammer

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Re: My Current Build
« Reply #105 on: March 10, 2009, 12:19:34 PM »
Jim
 As normal you start something and then gripe about being attacked. I was trying to compliment you and you took it sceptically. and then when I was trying to correct something I said you attacked me. Only once did I ever go on the offensive and that is because we where already in a heated argument on another forum, you trying to claim what I was doing with MY WHEEL !! to be your, an attempt at theft in my eyes and anyone else. 

>>And this from someone who said they were going to patent my self rolling wheel. Am I missing something ?<<

So again I had to retaliate for you where calling me a thief again. You just remember, this dog don't role over. Your sickness has nothing to do with the truth here. It is your problem and I hope you get over it.

  alan,
 you should really consider what you're saying. I was trying to discuss my current build.
Now it's about how you have the right to say what you want to me even though I am sick.
 This pretty much shows you have no conscience and will come up with whatever you have to to justify your actions.
 I think your last post pretty much shows everyone in here what kind of person you really are.

 @007, you'd think in this day and age, some people could grow up and mind their own business.  ;D

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« Reply #105 on: March 10, 2009, 12:19:34 PM »

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« Reply #106 on: March 10, 2009, 01:06:00 PM »
I am italian, and if I have to read everything....god !
can you say where, (what #number of post) there is write something that can be intresting ??
if there is....bahummer,or abhummer ??
mammamia...

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« Reply #107 on: March 10, 2009, 01:14:19 PM »
  alan,
 you should really consider what you're saying. I was trying to discuss my current build.
Now it's about how you have the right to say what you want to me even though I am sick.
 This pretty much shows you have no conscience and will come up with whatever you have to to justify your actions.
 I think your last post pretty much shows everyone in here what kind of person you really are.

 @007, you'd think in this day and age, some people could grow up and mind their own business.  ;D


 Jim
Stop the self pity thing! You have it in you to beet this sickness. Self pity causes people to quit fighting, and if you do, the sickness will win. So stop the self pity.  Build your wheel and prove me wrong. 

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Offline BAHammer

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« Reply #108 on: March 10, 2009, 02:41:31 PM »
Jim
Stop the self pity thing! You have it in you to beet this sickness. Self pity causes people to quit fighting, and if you do, the sickness will win. So stop the self pity.  Build your wheel and prove me wrong. 

  Alan,
 it's not self pity.
I'll post what I said about the self rolling wheel and what you said. Because when it comes to Mt 24, you say something different.
 You see, what if I wanted to figure out a way I'd like to try to see if I learn something from getting soem hands on experience. In development of ideas, it is not uncommon to modify a design to get more information on the build. see what comes out in the end.
 It's my money and time.
 also, with my illness, it's not self pity. It's a reality for some of us. And it has caused me to delay my build. So if I wish to discuss things with people until I know better what is going on in my life, why would that be a problem ?

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Why are you wanting to bring this peace of junk up for again? It has already been proved a non runner., Alan<<

>>, myself
 Why not ? Even if it is a proven non runner, would wonder if something could be learned from it.
 Such as transferring force from an extended arm to a central weight. It is something that is supported by Newotn's work.
 The faster the extended arm causes the wheel to roll, the more momentum the central weights can store.
 Because of this, I am wondering why you consider it to have been proven not to work. Do you disagree with Newton ?
 Alan, found out today that I have to be at work for one year before I can take FMLA. This means that I'll have to budget how much time I can miss work.
 As it is, I have to wait until I find out if long term disability is going to write one check like the last time I was on it (when I got ran over) or every 2 weeks like they're supposed to.<<

Alan, >> I work with my hands. I test with my hands. I observe the test and make notes. I design wheels and build them, and if they don't work I find out why, and take more notes. I don't spend my time with only math equations, for they will not tell any one if a wheel will work or not, they only help with the balances and imbalances.<<

@bessler, in the last post, I wasn't referring to you. Sorry if you thought I was  :)


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« Reply #109 on: March 10, 2009, 02:44:46 PM »
Jim, check out a video called   " a world without cancer ".  I found it quite interesting. It may also make you angry at our Government.

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Offline BAHammer

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« Reply #110 on: March 10, 2009, 02:47:27 PM »
  Alan,
 What it comes down to is maybe I'd prefer to do things the way I know how to do them.
Yet you have a lot of people that say I should follow your lead.
 I don't care to do blind builds. And by discussing things, maybe somebody like helmut will give me some good advice.
 After all, when he told me what I was doing at one time didn't look like a Bessler wheel, I started thinking how I could do something that did look like a Bessler wheel.
 And now, people can see my designs conform more to what Bessler drew.

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« Reply #111 on: March 10, 2009, 05:37:07 PM »
  Alan,
 What it comes down to is maybe I'd prefer to do things the way I know how to do them.
Yet you have a lot of people that say I should follow your lead.
 I don't care to do blind builds. And by discussing things, maybe somebody like helmut will give me some good advice.
 After all, when he told me what I was doing at one time didn't look like a Bessler wheel, I started thinking how I could do something that did look like a Bessler wheel.
 And now, people can see my designs conform more to what Bessler drew.

Jim

 I do believe it is time to call a truce then.  :)

I am a stickler on credit. If some one else get a wheel before me I will congratulate them (then I will try to build a stronger wheel, not of there design). If I had a hand in inspiration I hope to be noted. If I build for someone else and it runs the wheel design is theirs, I get credit as the physical builder, not the designer. If I give advice of change, I hope the person will recognize me for my part in it. If  I am building and a design goes into alterations of my design that produces a running wheel, then some form of partnership will be expected. I have a few partners in this game and friends as well that if I am the one with my own design. Those I truly deal with will have a part. But I won't open source but after patent pending status I will show how I did it for the do it your self builders. I don't want to just give it away, where big business will just take it.

 The wheel is bigger than all of us. So to be greedy is a waste of time, but to protect ones credit in it, is a part of there's, ours, or my life. IMHO

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Offline BAHammer

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« Reply #112 on: March 10, 2009, 08:28:53 PM »
Jim

 I do believe it is time to call a truce then.  :)

I am a stickler on credit. If some one else get a wheel before me I will congratulate them (then I will try to build a stronger wheel, not of there design). If I had a hand in inspiration I hope to be noted. If I build for someone else and it runs the wheel design is theirs, I get credit as the physical builder, not the designer. If I give advice of change, I hope the person will recognize me for my part in it. If  I am building and a design goes into alterations of my design that produces a running wheel, then some form of partnership will be expected. I have a few partners in this game and friends as well that if I am the one with my own design. Those I truly deal with will have a part. But I won't open source but after patent pending status I will show how I did it for the do it your self builders. I don't want to just give it away, where big business will just take it.

 The wheel is bigger than all of us. So to be greedy is a waste of time, but to protect ones credit in it, is a part of there's, ours, or my life. IMHO

  Alan,
 As far as I am concerned, you have a Messiah complex. As your followers have said, I have to follow your advice. Even if it's off topic.
 Considering I've spent over a year working on a principle, I don't exactly expect other people to understand it as well as I do. But I think I am done with this.
 After all, this latest episode started because you said the law needs to be enforced in the forum.
I think your friends should think about that. I was minding my own business.

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« Reply #113 on: March 10, 2009, 11:57:59 PM »
  Alan,
 As far as I am concerned, you have a Messiah complex. As your followers have said, I have to follow your advice. Even if it's off topic.
 Considering I've spent over a year working on a principle, I don't exactly expect other people to understand it as well as I do. But I think I am done with this.
 After all, this latest episode started because you said the law needs to be enforced in the forum.
I think your friends should think about that. I was minding my own business.

 Jim
I have offered you an olive branch, and stated my standing position. Now you are going to slap me whit it? :o

This is the real Jim and his true hart, a post that he made to me on Bessler Quest .
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But Alan, if it is my design, it will be known.
Of course, I can always modify the post if I want. And I'm sure that if someone successfully built a model based on my research and I kept quiet, they would too.
This would be because I can edit my posts. And I could change the design I posted.
It's up to you and if your design is different than what I posted. If people think it is the same and you say it is different, you will lose.
Think about it and let me know.

And you says this about me after I tried to help?? And you call this minding your own business??

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  @All,
 And this from someone who said they were going to patent my self rolling wheel. Am I missing something ?


And now you say I have a Messiah complex. All of this crap is to cover your real intention. and lets not forget the pity play.

 I am sick,  Help help I'm being repressed.

I knew you wouldn't take the olive branch, you would have to quit taking stabs of slander at me. So when this dog offered to stay on one side of the fence. You decided to through rocks at the dog. Well this dog won't stand for that.

@ all and Jim

The biggest joke is that Jim keeps saying his work and then keeps saying it is MT24 or MT25 or MT20. If it is these? Then you are playing with a designs that belongs to someone else and claiming them to be yours, Jim!!. I have studied the MTs and I make my own designs, not just slight changes, but different. I have shown several wheel designs here and they are not anything like the MTs in function. Originality is the best. Don't keep trying things that have failed time and time again.

@ all

What really makes me mad at Jim the most is Personal messages like this one he sent to me. I keep it as evidence. February 16, 2009, 05:28:35 PM

  Alan,
 If you build anything based on my work, I will send an e-mail to WM2D and report this forum and besslerWheel.com. Many people are using pirated software.
 I'm not worried about that, but they should not have allowed you to harass me.

Why is he trying to scar me to not build? And from this letter he is threatening everyone like holding everybody hostage if I do build.  :o >:(






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« Reply #114 on: March 11, 2009, 12:16:51 AM »
Wow this sure has become a stinking thread.

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« Reply #115 on: March 11, 2009, 12:17:23 AM »
Jim
I have offered you an olive branch, and stated my standing position. Now you are going to slap me whit it? :o

This is the real Jim and his true hart, a post that he made to me on Bessler Quest .
And you says this about me after I tried to help?? And you call this minding your own business??

And now you say I have a Messiah complex. All of this crap is to cover your real intention. and lets not forget the pity play.

 I am sick,  Help help I'm being repressed.

I knew you wouldn't take the olive branch, you would have to quit taking stabs of slander at me. So when this dog offered to stay on one side of the fence. You decided to through rocks at the dog. Well this dog won't stand for that.

@ all and Jim

The biggest joke is that Jim keeps saying his work and then keeps saying it is MT24 or MT25 or MT20. If it is these? Then you are playing with a designs that belongs to someone else and claiming them to be yours, Jim!!. I have studied the MTs and I make my own designs, not just slight changes, but different. I have shown several wheel designs here and they are not anything like the MTs in function. Originality is the best. Don't keep trying things that have failed time and time again.

@ all

What really makes me mad at Jim the most is Personal messages like this one he sent to me. I keep it as evidence. February 16, 2009, 05:28:35 PM

Why is he trying to scar me to not build? And from this letter he is threatening everyone like holding everybody hostage if I do build.  :o >:(







Sounds like Jim has been at this game abit too long and its taken over his mind...

Alex

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Offline The Eskimo Quinn

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« Reply #116 on: March 11, 2009, 12:23:00 AM »
Being the king of wheels not just in drawing them, i would like to keep this one going, so completly out of character i will try to calm this thread down. A quick tip on patents and rights. you can publish anything once you have lodged a patent application, but if you publish it first then it is public domian and "can never" be patented by anyone not even the inventor, look it up.

so claims on ownership or restrictng other people from building something you published is a waste of time. Secondly this is to my understanding an open source forum, and the entire purpose is to discuss help and release the information free to the world. anyone with notions of patents should not even be here.

are there parts of other peoples design in each of our own? of course there are, a wheel by its very nature joins us all, the gravity concept of shifting weight joins us all, be it with levers or pendulums, magnets or pulleys, we all use the same basic principal. was the first mag wheel on a car simply a rim with holes drilled in it or the one that sucked the air onto the brakes?

if your device works, it is the first of its kind no matter how close others were, until then they are all similar, were you the first to think of it? who knows, if they can show a published work of it the yes, if not that does not mean no, simply that they were unable to do so or chose not to, the debate of the ages on this website.

I have design many wheels over the years, especially the last one, if you want a wheel that truns by weight shift without question or argument.


try this completely new and thought of it whilst writing this, one wheel 12 arms on each arm there is a glass tube  the tubes are filled with mercury, as the temp rises the weeight of the mercury shifts upward in each tube like a thermometer, as the wheel truns and the merc runs down to the bottom end the cyle repeats. does it work? I don't know but it is as likely as any other and we know that even on its side a thermomter will act that way. was i the first this instance to think of it? who knows.

settle grettle this is a published site, and all things being equal unless you have a patent for a working device lodged, it is already too late to claim ownership or patent rights

well thats enough being nice, back to my own to tell people where to go

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« Reply #117 on: March 11, 2009, 01:48:50 AM »
The Eskimo Quinn

Thanks for posting the info. Will it stop BAHammer/Jim from accusing me of taking his design? I hope so. Just like you said, once you post it before protection you can't protect it, even if it is original. And I am not going to post my main designs before there time.

Thanks again

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« Reply #118 on: March 11, 2009, 03:28:01 AM »
This art/intellectual property is protected.




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« Reply #119 on: March 11, 2009, 03:35:52 AM »
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