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iacob alex

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A basic deduction..
« on: February 22, 2009, 07:49:56 AM »

....can help us to quit out and think "out of the box".

    It's no more that a simple "if"...one dimension (only one!),is ever increasing.

    You can find this inquiry at   www.geocities.com/iacob_alex    then click on  "Some_Drafts"/text045.jpg 

             All the Bests!  /  Alex

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Re: A basic deduction..
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2009, 02:15:29 AM »

 ...reffers to the fact,that the same,only one small unbalance (arm difference) ,can put in motion,into a serial of bigger size,but identical systems ,an ever greater release of gravity power.

    So,to clear the air...we can have really "output>input"!

    One problem,only:to make a self-system,with the help of a "distant action" abstraction.

          All the Bests!  /  Alex.

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Re: A basic deduction..
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2009, 04:58:46 AM »
Greetings Alex

  I had a chuckle and some of you pictures looked like some stuff I drew and have built. freeenergy posted the one I believe you are talking about, and I have built such an animal and it would not shift but it would scotch every time. When you have that much weight hitting the ground it will not shift, it stops dead cold.

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Re: A basic deduction..
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2009, 05:42:19 AM »

     Hi AB Hammer!

  In my opinion,we have here two different topics,that are easy to distinguish:

 -"A basic deduction":as a "Russian Puppets Set",or the possibility to obtain an  " output>..> input" ratio/see "Some_Drafts/text045.jpg/ 
   If...,then...binomial is a common language tool.

 -"Free Gravity Rolling" proposed models. Here is a serial also:01...06

   Some models take into account the game  with the rotational inertia(charge-discharge transfer)

   You can take them as lab-demo devices...

          All the Bests  /  Alex

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Re: A basic deduction..
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2009, 02:27:07 PM »
     Hi AB Hammer!

  In my opinion,we have here two different topics,that are easy to distinguish:

 -"A basic deduction":as a "Russian Puppets Set",or the possibility to obtain an  " output>..> input" ratio/see "Some_Drafts/text045.jpg/ 
   If...,then...binomial is a common language tool.

 -"Free Gravity Rolling" proposed models. Here is a serial also:01...06

   Some models take into account the game  with the rotational inertia(charge-discharge transfer)

   You can take them as lab-demo devices...

          All the Bests  /  Alex

OK Alex

It took a little guessing to find text045.jpg on you web page. I had to do start loading and counting to find it. They are not clearly posted.

Now I can give my views. Bellow are 2 links to chaos pendulum wheels that I have posted on youtube. As we take your drawing and start the spin some similar effects can be seen in my videos. But since you have one end stopped at the shaft it will have a tremendous difficulty to flip out and will slow and stop flipping for the lower weight working as a pendulum to the axle will have to go up to about 10:00 to get the flip if even then and you will have to depend on that which it will not do past a couple of rounds from you own force of your manual swing and then you loose the full pendulum effect from the swinging end. It would be a very easy test to do, and very inexpensive. You can even do it on a disk wheel just mount one weight on the edge and a swinging weight closer to the axle to the wanted distance and a pin stop to make you stoppers in both directions to get your desired action. Then after test take out stoppers and let spin freely and you have a chaos wheel to look at reactions to for there effects.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yF53aaKYBY&feature=channel_page


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3jSnjCVu00&feature=channel_page

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Re: A basic deduction..
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2009, 12:10:26 AM »

  ...as a topic, is related only, to   www.geocities.com/iacob_alex    then click on "Some_Drafts/text045.jpg,nothing more .

     A deduction,is the process of reasoning in which a conclusion follows necessarily from the stated premises.

     Here we have a proposal: the lever( two unequal arms,two equal masses,the same arm difference) becomes greater and greater.

     You can draw it on paper,or test in reality.

     If we increase the size of this arrangement,we get more kinetic energy(output)...that we need to remake the same arm difference(input).

     Can be this judgement not true,or we have here a puzzle,a difficulty in the effort to understand?!

      Now,we can wait some comments...

               All the Bests!  /  Alex