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gravityblock

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Anti-gravity Motor! (Everyone please read, very important)
« on: February 21, 2009, 06:42:26 PM »
I've been trying to design a motor that emulates the motion of an electron or the motion of the planets in orbit. I think this is one of the keys for over unity.

The way I currently understand this, and my understanding may not be correct, is the angular momentum (orbital momentum) of the electron or planets pull on the spin of the electrons or planets. This pulling creates a torque or force. This torque causes the electrons or planets spin to under go opposition which causes Lenz's law. The electron or planets spin will thus slow down until it is in balance with the orbital momentum. At this moment the electron or planets are in a perpetual state of motion in regards to their spin path and orbital path but they no longer have any torque or force. This causes space-time to be curved and is know to us as gravity.

When you slow down the orbital path or increase the spin, then this will allow you to reach a farther orbit. In a farther orbit your spin will be faster but your orbital path will be slower or longer. As long as you keep slowing down the orbital path or increasing the spin you will overcome gravity. Once you overcome gravity your spin will be fast and be following a straight path. Since you no longer have an orbital path, then you no longer have an opposition force pulling on your spin. At this point you can increase your spin and move faster in a straight path with no opposition force and Lenz's law does not apply.

This means relativity is wrong about faster than light speed travel. We overcome gravity all the time with our motors when we put a load on them that completely stops the motor. We don't obtain the anti-gravity affect because our motors always have a orbital path that is built into it that is always in opposition to the spin path or current and we don't utilize the orbital path. This means the orbital momentum and the spin momentum are in balance with each other with no torque or force. Now create a motor that has a straight path without the orbital design or create an orbital design that puts its orbital momentum into the current or spin of the electrons and we'll have free energy and anti-gravity.

I understand the principal of motors and other stuff, but when it comes to the designs, I am totally lost. I have ideas on how we can create an anti-gravity motor, but my designs will more than likely not be right and probably to the point that it is laughable.

Anyone following me on this and does this spark any ideas on creating an anti-gravity motor?

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Re: Anti-gravity Motor! (Everyone please read, very important)
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2009, 06:57:56 PM »
This is interesting. As I've made a thread today about these forces as well and using the centrifugal force to overcome the thing we call lenz effect. Look at...

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6880.msg159105

Usually the charged mass will just move in a nice circular orbit, but physicists, for some reason, ignore the fact that this particle has a mass as well thus there will be a centrifugal force which will spiral it outwards. Now this CF can be made to be stronger than the centripetal force caused by the magnetic field. So the charged mass will spiral outwards but by spiraling outwards this creates yet again another force due to the magnetic field this time ALONG the speed direction. Meaning it will accelerate. This causes a runaway effect and make the acceleration go to infinity in an exponential way.

I wanted to write the math down to get all the parameters out but it was a bit harder than I thought as you have variables that depend on themselves in this runaway effect. So I just made a simulation that showed this exponential acceleration.

Can you provide some visuals? I want to understand exactly what you're talking about as I'm also looking for anti gravity eventually.

Edit: I just noticed you're the same guy as the toroidal motor. This is too big of a coincidence to me. I think we have a special bond  ;D.

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Re: Anti-gravity Motor! (Everyone please read, very important)
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2009, 07:30:13 PM »
Hi,

you both guys should really take a look at pequaide's thread  here:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=1995.new;topicseen#new

its sunken, but he is very much into exact this.

hope, it helps.
sushimoto

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Re: Anti-gravity Motor! (Everyone please read, very important)
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2009, 07:35:04 PM »
Well from my open minded perspective, looking at how things spin is on the road to sucess but knowing how the apple got to the top is the secret.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49JwbrXcPjc

So if you make a gravity motor on that motion from that video, you will crack it because that pattern is the key and is talked alot by inventors like Viktor schauberger with his self running engine.

Since you cannot create nor destory, you can recycle and it gives more out than in, but it is like plants and seeds and you grow more plants and take seeds and grow more.

Bleh, my 2 cents.


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Re: Anti-gravity Motor! (Everyone please read, very important)
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2009, 08:08:13 PM »
@broli:

It is no coincidence because we have the same understanding of the forces involved. Although our understanding of these forces are coming from a different path, they both are leading us to the same path.

I'll try to do some animation for visualizing but this will take me sometime since I have no abilities in animation or drawing. I will work on trying to draw an illustration in your mind first.

Hopefully someone else will be able to help in explaining this visually.


Edit:  The planets tilting on their axis shows these opposition forces to be present with no net force.

« Last Edit: February 21, 2009, 09:04:51 PM by gravityblock »

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Re: Anti-gravity Motor! (Everyone please read, very important)
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2009, 08:47:40 PM »
wonderful thing about that type of motor design, orbital design, we have 3 built, you get a linear power curve, a 1 to 1 input output ratio.
patent # 6239524 & 6707190
and yes, this is the key to OU, as I have been saying for 13 months on here.
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Re: Anti-gravity Motor! (Everyone please read, very important)
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2009, 02:42:07 AM »
wonderful thing about that type of motor design, orbital design, we have 3 built, you get a linear power curve, a 1 to 1 input output ratio.
patent # 6239524 & 6707190
and yes, this is the key to OU, as I have been saying for 13 months on here.
Cameron

Congratulations on your motors and patent. You have put yourself into the Cabal and elitist category of the powers to be, until you offer full disclosure. Also, the elitists don't care about your patents because they already have this technology.  Thanks for helping suppress the rest of society because of your greed.

Either way, we (the suppressed) will bring this information out, with or without you. Patents don't mean nothing. Change a few things on the original design, then the patent is no longer valid for the modified design. Oh, and you can't patent an idea.

What side are you on?

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Re: Anti-gravity Motor! (Everyone please read, very important)
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2009, 03:18:49 AM »
i have only been trying to find people through this site to help with the concept, not to suppress. NO we do not believe that an open source is the solution, but our business plan, if that is even possible with something this large, is set up to be as far from replacing one oil company with another. We simply want to develop the technology we believe we have stumbled into, prove it, (proof of concept) than allow any and all manufacturers, builders, whomever to make the products. in no way do we wish, if we can provide proof of concept, to not allow this to be used and attained by all, there is too much good that will come from who ever comes up with the ability to provide a completely green , abundant source of energy/power.
I understand the stance of the open source platform, unfortunately ,the company I am with has investors that invested in the concept with the intentions of some sort of return. If someone can come up with an idea this grand, why is it such a terrible thing to be rewarded, even if it is Penny's per motor for instance. we know that the numbers will be staggering, the money really isn't the motive, it is providing a sustainable energy source for everyone, everywhere. then you will say, well why patent, this was out of my control in the beginning.
i did not post those patent numbers to smear them in your face or anything like that, I was only bringing the knowledge to the table that this is the path that we believe in too, and the bi product of that type of motor was a linear i / o . I did not mean to push a button with you.

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Re: Anti-gravity Motor! (Everyone please read, very important)
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2009, 03:49:21 AM »
String theory and parabolic motion around the gate, I understand , our planets circle the sun, why dont they lock up at the magnetic gate?  How do they get past it and keep going? Thats what i wanna know.

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Re: Anti-gravity Motor! (Everyone please read, very important)
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2009, 04:16:02 AM »
if this technology really works it would be self rewarding...the technology is already providing something in return 100%+
this is why its called Free Energy/Over Unity, etc. what? is it fame? money? control? lol money? cant compare Free energy/Over Unity with money. Free energy/Over Unity is priceless!

and the big guys are not going to let some company replace them... lol if anything they will take that technology for their own never to be seen again at least not to the general public.
look what happened to Nikola Tesla!

OPEN SOURCE is the only way! this way these kind of technologies can not suppressed or prevented from going public once and for all!

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Re: Anti-gravity Motor! (Everyone please read, very important)
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2009, 04:39:22 AM »
We simply want to develop the technology we believe we have stumbled into, prove it, (proof of concept) than allow any and all manufacturers, builders, whomever to make the products.

The above is what I'm talking about not being able to patent an idea. You haven't been able to prove it yet. You are here for us to prove it for you so then you can claim patent infringement after this technology has been distributed. You're previous post said you have built 3 of these motors. Is that not proof of concept? What are you waiting for?

You don't have all the information for this device yet or don't have all the funding to bring it to proof of concept or to the market. As far as I'm concerned your patents are invalid and will always remain invalid, unless you can get this to market before anyone else. I mean you no disrespect. I understand what you're doing. As far as your investors are concerned, let them invest in the companies that will be building these open-sourced motors. There are more than one way to make money where all can benefit and not just a select few.

I'm not upset with you. You and your investors are truly in a pickle. There are advantages and disadvantages to both patenting or to open-sourcing. This has been discussed many times. There is no need in repeating this discussion.

I just hope we're all on the same side regardless of the decision you and your investors decide to make. I believe you have good intentions. The bottom line is I don't really care who brings this to the market. I don't care if it is patented or open-sourced. All I care about is it being released to the public.

May you be blessed.

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Re: Anti-gravity Motor! (Everyone please read, very important)
« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2009, 06:58:29 AM »
String theory and parabolic motion around the gate, I understand , our planets circle the sun, why dont they lock up at the magnetic gate?  How do they get past it and keep going? Thats what i wanna know.

There is no magnetic gate. The reason for the sticky point is because the object is in a fixed position that opposes the magnetic forces. When the object is not in a fixed position then it gets pulled into the magnet or pushed outside the force of the magnet.

The sun causes the planets to divide into two different forces. One force wants to go straight and the other force wants to go towards the sun. The force that wants to go straight pulls on the force that wants to go towards the sun. This causes it to lose forward momentum and causes it to have an axial spin momentum until the forces are equalized. After the forces are equalized then the planets will have a forward momentum and an axial spin momentum. Both momentums will add up to the momentum the planet had prior to the influence of the sun. These two opposition forces cause the planets to stay in orbit around the sun and to tilt on it's axis.
« Last Edit: February 22, 2009, 02:19:00 PM by gravityblock »

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Re: Anti-gravity Motor! (Everyone please read, very important)
« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2009, 07:02:36 AM »
A simplified view of gravity is nothing more than 2 momentum forces pulling or in opposition to each other. When you throw a ball into the air going 70 mph, the earth's momentum (speed) is faster than the ball and catches up to the ball. After the ball has lost it's momentum (relative to the earth) due to the earth catching up to it, then it starts to fall towards the earth. Now the ball is no longer in opposition with the earth and the 2 objects will accelerate towards each other (relatively speaking). Einstein even said, "if acceleration feels like gravity, then they may be the same" (I didn't look the exact quote up). We have been bamboozled and hoodwinked for long enough.


Edit:  @cameron - Keep up the good work.
« Last Edit: February 22, 2009, 05:51:21 PM by gravityblock »

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Re: Anti-gravity Motor! (Everyone please read, very important)
« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2009, 06:23:47 PM »
I believe we need a device that is similar to the gyroscope that puts the orbital spin into its axial spin. The gyroscope in the wikipedia link below should have a 2 spin axis perpendicular to each other instead of 1 in order for us to get the right results. The question is, how can this have a 2 spin axis that are perpindiclar to each other?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyroscope

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Re: Anti-gravity Motor! (Everyone please read, very important)
« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2009, 07:05:25 PM »
 ::)

You have it the chase is on ...

If you defy gravity you achieve overunity ...
Technically it may take a massive amount of energy to defy gravity in which case OU would be possible but in order to create the conditions for OU it will cost energy...
It is not an easy task this overunity ...

Magnetic Flux seems to play a role in gravity and spin seems to play a role.

Simple observation :

Put something on a round surface eg. a ball and spin it ... What happens the object is flung off...

Now if you take a full glass of water and you make a long spin you will notice you can spin it upside down without the water falling out...

Now take that same glass of water and try to spin it without closing your hand you will have to spin it that much faster because not only do you have to keep the water in your cup but you need enough force to keep your cup stuck to your hand...

Its almost as all the rest of the planets act as hands easing the burden of keeping the people in the container we call earth.

Without the earths atmosphere I assume that we would all be flung off the face of  the earth but then again you look at the moon walks... And there is a degree of gravity there as well...

I don't believe that anyone understands gravity they just know it is there but the full working of gravity is without understanding otherwise we would be manipulating it without problem.

The rest is just assumption!

EDIT:
Anyone know what would happen if you took a ball and encased it in clear plastic then pressurized the air inside of the plastic and placed an object on its surface and spun it if the object would fly off just as quickly?

I dunno this is a very profound topic I commend someone for being ballsy enough to start this thing up.