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Author Topic: Acoustomagnetic TPU / SEG calculation model  (Read 27090 times)

Offline Magnon

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Re: Acoustomagnetic TPU / SEG calculation model
« Reply #45 on: April 20, 2009, 04:59:11 PM »
Hello all,

@Phantasm

No special core needed!!

In a TPU we have 2 cores. Im using copper as cores because Metglas cores are not good.
I can imagine that SM used 1 copper core + 1 Aluminium core.

Yes, the cores seperated but it depends on how you connect the collectors. In one way connected you dont have to seperate the cores and connected in the other way you have to seperate them.

 If you have closed cores you have to connect the collectors in one way, if the cores are open on one end you have to connect the collectors in another way.

As you see we have a lot of options. Better said only 2 options.

Otto

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Re: Acoustomagnetic TPU / SEG calculation model
« Reply #46 on: April 20, 2009, 07:01:06 PM »
Hmmm....

I wonder if the FTPU spool was such material. Also, the frame of the OTPU
?

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Re: Acoustomagnetic TPU / SEG calculation model
« Reply #47 on: April 20, 2009, 07:03:03 PM »
And the large dark area of the 15 inch TPU cutaway?

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Re: Acoustomagnetic TPU / SEG calculation model
« Reply #47 on: April 20, 2009, 07:03:03 PM »
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Re: Acoustomagnetic TPU / SEG calculation model
« Reply #48 on: April 20, 2009, 07:47:26 PM »
And the large dark area of the 15 inch TPU cutaway?


Yes, i noticed also that black, or dark core material in a 15 inch TPU cutaway.
I remember too, that SM told about frequesies something like that : "The best thing with a 35 kHz frequency is that i can not hear it"   ; the device was acoustic and acoustic wave was generated by magnetostrictive / electrostrictive effect.


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Re: Acoustomagnetic TPU / SEG calculation model
« Reply #49 on: April 20, 2009, 08:29:45 PM »
Hello all,

@Phantasm

No special core needed!!

In a TPU we have 2 cores. Im using copper as cores because Metglas cores are not good.
I can imagine that SM used 1 copper core + 1 Aluminium core.

Yes, the cores seperated but it depends on how you connect the collectors. In one way connected you dont have to seperate the cores and connected in the other way you have to seperate them.

 If you have closed cores you have to connect the collectors in one way, if the cores are open on one end you have to connect the collectors in another way.

As you see we have a lot of options. Better said only 2 options.

Otto

Where did you get the material for your cores? Were you able to salvage from something? I've called some places and copper is very expensive for the dimensions in a TPU

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Re: Acoustomagnetic TPU / SEG calculation model
« Reply #49 on: April 20, 2009, 08:29:45 PM »
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Re: Acoustomagnetic TPU / SEG calculation model
« Reply #50 on: April 20, 2009, 11:15:45 PM »
16/2 lamp cord. Cheap.

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Re: Acoustomagnetic TPU / SEG calculation model
« Reply #51 on: April 21, 2009, 05:50:53 AM »
Hello all,

@Phantasm

my cores are made with copper pipes. Diameter is 1/2" or 12mm. I would love to have this pipes in a bigger diameter but...

They are used in heating systems, water supplies......cheap.

I also wanted to buy a plate of copper but .....Im not soooo rich.

Otto

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Re: Acoustomagnetic TPU / SEG calculation model
« Reply #52 on: April 21, 2009, 09:31:18 AM »
Yes, i noticed also that black, or dark core material in a 15 inch TPU cutaway.
I remember too, that SM told about frequesies something like that : "The best thing with a 35 kHz frequency is that i can not hear it"   ; the device was acoustic and acoustic wave was generated by magnetostrictive / electrostrictive effect.


--Magnon

You certainly could be right - but with SM's tale of the exploding TV, we should have the principals necessary for TPU function within the the operation of that television.

Logically, if the magnetostrictive / electrostrictive effect is a component of TPU functionality we should see this effect in the design of the TV as well.

Were the toroids in those TV's conducive to this effect? What material was used for them?

Again, I dont want to discount the validity of Acoustomagnetics but if the effect takes place in those TV's we should be able to harness it in a TPU with similar materials.

Personally, I think we're dealing with the same core material used in toroids in VHF applications. The flux needs to be able to dissipate quickly to accommodate our high frequencies so the material must be "Soft" in the magnetic sense. Otto, is this why you chose copper? I cannot find very much information about using copper toroids...

Although if you wanted to use custom cores with the intention of utilizing mametostrictive / electrostirctive effects, you'd likely get results utilizing that effect as well

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Re: Acoustomagnetic TPU / SEG calculation model
« Reply #53 on: April 21, 2009, 10:25:46 AM »
Hello all,

@Phantasm

I tried to use iron powder cores taken from TV deflection systems. I pulsed them and with 24V/5A I managed to light a 100W bulb with full light. The cores, hot, the MOSFETs very hot.

Then I got a lot of best quality Metglas and used this as a core. No reaction, to say so. The Metglas core didnt work.

Now Im using a copper pipe as a core. Its the best!!

SM told us in his way to use Copper and Alumimium in our TPUs but nobody is listening.

Its clear ( at least for me) that various plastics also can work in a TPU but I dont want to work with plastics because my copper core is a real beauty.

I think that iron resists to much to the flow of the particles. They are somehow penetrating the iron powder core.

Totally different is it when you use Metglas as a core. The particles are only striving over this metal and nothing happens.

Copper is between the mentioned 2 metals. When I short the core I see nice sparcs. This doesnt happen with iron powder but happens with Metglas. Not sooo strong as with copper but still to see.

Otto

PS: is here a TPU builder that listens or Im wrighting for nothing???  Heeeeeyyyyy, GK, Roberto....


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Re: Acoustomagnetic TPU / SEG calculation model
« Reply #53 on: April 21, 2009, 10:25:46 AM »
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Re: Acoustomagnetic TPU / SEG calculation model
« Reply #54 on: April 21, 2009, 10:59:26 AM »
Now Im using a copper pipe as a core. Its the best!!

SM told us in his way to use Copper and Alumimium in our TPUs but nobody is listening.

Its clear ( at least for me) that various plastics also can work in a TPU but I dont want to work with plastics because my copper core is a real beauty.


Otto


Hi sir otto

 GOOD INFO !  ;D

i will try that sir  ;)

God bless
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Re: Acoustomagnetic TPU / SEG calculation model
« Reply #55 on: April 21, 2009, 11:20:29 AM »
Hello all,

Im the next 15 or so days on vacation. No internet at home so I will be quiet for a time.

ITS TPU TIME for me.

@Tito....

its good to try the copper but ......just use a lamp wire, place it along the copper core as a collector and pulse this collector with 3 frequencies. Of course in paralel with the pulses on 1 side and the + 24V on the other side, connect a 100W bulb.

Then, another collector......then maybe a 3. collector.......enjoy in the light.

Otto

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Re: Acoustomagnetic TPU / SEG calculation model
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Re: Acoustomagnetic TPU / SEG calculation model
« Reply #56 on: April 21, 2009, 11:21:41 AM »
Hello all,

sorry guys I forgot:

Im talking about a 15" TPU!!!

Otto

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Re: Acoustomagnetic TPU / SEG calculation model
« Reply #57 on: April 21, 2009, 05:00:28 PM »
Hello all,

@Phantasm

I tried to use iron powder cores taken from TV deflection systems. I pulsed them and with 24V/5A I managed to light a 100W bulb with full light. The cores, hot, the MOSFETs very hot.

Then I got a lot of best quality Metglas and used this as a core. No reaction, to say so. The Metglas core didnt work.

Now Im using a copper pipe as a core. Its the best!!

SM told us in his way to use Copper and Alumimium in our TPUs but nobody is listening.

Its clear ( at least for me) that various plastics also can work in a TPU but I dont want to work with plastics because my copper core is a real beauty.

I think that iron resists to much to the flow of the particles. They are somehow penetrating the iron powder core.

Totally different is it when you use Metglas as a core. The particles are only striving over this metal and nothing happens.

Copper is between the mentioned 2 metals. When I short the core I see nice sparcs. This doesnt happen with iron powder but happens with Metglas. Not sooo strong as with copper but still to see.

Otto

PS: is here a TPU builder that listens or Im wrighting for nothing???  Heeeeeyyyyy, GK, Roberto....



@Otto,
I follow closely, very closely!
I too suggested copper pipe. The spool of bendable copper used for ice makers in refrigerators. This is the highest quantity of lowest price ratio you can get. Why? because you can easily form it to your needs. I was even going to pour aluminum shavings down the middle to cause the copper magnetic field to stay outside! Check that out! I had more up my sleeve than I let out. That is why the rail gun docos appeared. Instead of using a magnetic field to propel a aluminum projectile I was aiming to push the magnetic field with an aluminum shield.  ;) One could also push a piece of insulated or non-ins aluminum 12awg house wire down the middle.
I was going to reproduce the GK4 with these cores. It was suggested I hold off because of my proximity to a radar base and percocious exurberance. The copper does not hold on to the current, nothing gets trapped inside like with iron. In copper, the magnetic field compresses in the center. That is why the Leedskalnin docos appeared. The iron, for my design, slowed down the catalyst. Lucky me.

@ All,
Otto, I, and a few others have gotten hurt. It don't feel good and there is nothing the medical community can do for you.

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Re: Acoustomagnetic TPU / SEG calculation model
« Reply #58 on: April 21, 2009, 08:41:56 PM »
Like i told before, the spin wave from acoustomagnetic resonance effect is a helical type wave and therefore has a rotating polarization.
The direction of spin wave rotation depends on direction of applied magnetic field and radiation direction follows the direction of the applied field.
It is important to have both N and S applied magnetic fields in a device, to have both right hand spin wave rotation and left hand spin wave rotation, like it is with a SEG, that is magnetized in a direction h. This kind of system is needed to compress the spacetime. This same kind of applied magnetic field we must build in a TPU core.

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Re: Acoustomagnetic TPU / SEG calculation model
« Reply #59 on: April 21, 2009, 09:01:24 PM »
@Otto,
I follow closely, very closely!
I too suggested copper pipe. The spool of bendable copper used for ice makers in refrigerators. This is the highest quantity of lowest price ratio you can get. Why? because you can easily form it to your needs. I was even going to pour aluminum shavings down the middle to cause the copper magnetic field to stay outside! Check that out! I had more up my sleeve than I let out. That is why the rail gun docos appeared. Instead of using a magnetic field to propel a aluminum projectile I was aiming to push the magnetic field with an aluminum shield.  ;) One could also push a piece of insulated or non-ins aluminum 12awg house wire down the middle.
I was going to reproduce the GK4 with these cores. It was suggested I hold off because of my proximity to a radar base and percocious exurberance. The copper does not hold on to the current, nothing gets trapped inside like with iron. In copper, the magnetic field compresses in the center. That is why the Leedskalnin docos appeared. The iron, for my design, slowed down the catalyst. Lucky me.

@ All,
Otto, I, and a few others have gotten hurt. It don't feel good and there is nothing the medical community can do for you.

--giantkiller.

Interesting

I was just going to get some solid copper rods and bend them in to rings and use those as cores...Do you think it would be better to fill copper tubes with fine grain aluminum shavings?


 

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