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Author Topic: Working Perpetual Wheel Using Springs  (Read 24857 times)

Offline Bessler007

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Re: Working Perpetual Wheel Using Springs
« Reply #30 on: February 23, 2009, 05:36:58 AM »
No one likes their intellectual property stolen either.




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Re: Working Perpetual Wheel Using Springs
« Reply #30 on: February 23, 2009, 05:36:58 AM »

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Re: Working Perpetual Wheel Using Springs
« Reply #31 on: February 23, 2009, 06:04:46 AM »
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Hi, Yortuk. I believe you., why not.  It give more tan your inventin...

In 1941, a man , in my hometown,built a very strong, powering wheel (like Bessler) with hundreds of little cars in the wheel that rolled in tubes (inner half) of the wheel..
wheel was about 30cm  and 70cm in diameter mad from iron parts
weight approx 30kgsi

So it is just as possible as Bessler: this one or your solution.

But it’s some power that is used to which no attention is given - and it is not included in the programming of the software to try or find it. So Working Model simulations are not TRUE in relation to mechanical, hardware experiments!!

I am sure that resonance is the KEY!! I am also very sure that more than one resonance will be the source.

Source can only be if (in minimum) two different resonances are working together in HARMONIC within supra or sub frequencies:

1. Springs
2. Weight of Balls
3. Rotational Speed

We have three different FREQUENCIES! If one is changed, NOTHING WILL WORK!

So it is very hard to reconstruct them - because you have not given attention to think and "save" this knowledge!!

So no simulation software can "find this out," because no programmer has done such to provide "ports for INPUT" to change such (unknown) values.

ONLY hardware experiments can make it possible to find a solution.
Gustav Pese

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Yes, Gustav. The greatest scientific mind in history, Tesla, insisted that resonance is the key.

Every piece of a system must be in tune with each other, and the system as a whole, for peak efficiency.

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Re: Working Perpetual Wheel Using Springs
« Reply #32 on: February 23, 2009, 08:45:52 AM »
Hello Mindsweeper,

Always a pleasure to explain something to those less fortunate in the grey cell area. 

Making a claim that isn't true is the same as lying.  The blatant example is the name of this thread, "Working Perpetual Wheel Using Springs".  It's a friggin lie.  That's one of the similarities between this device and the one I posted.  There are other similarities.

Weights suspended by springs is another as are weights moving along  a ramp.  A stationary ramp vs a moving one is a difference.  I mentioned there were differences.  There are others but the chief similarity is they both don't work yet both were attempted to be passed off as ones that do.  Both ideas were presented by liars.

Thinking people get tired of being lied to in that fashion but I wouldn't expect you to understand.

I hope you liked the explanation.

Since I quickly complied with your request of explaining or shutting the fuck up, I have one for you.

Bite my arse, you arrogant, lying piece of crap.  You're arrogant in thinking you can make demands of me.  Demanding honesty from people isn't arrogance.  Again I wouldn't expect you to understand.

Oh yea, bite it right there . . . Not so hard  ... ah yes, yes!!


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Re: Working Perpetual Wheel Using Springs
« Reply #32 on: February 23, 2009, 08:45:52 AM »
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Re: Working Perpetual Wheel Using Springs
« Reply #33 on: February 23, 2009, 09:02:40 AM »
The tension of the springs/balls pulling against the wheel would result is serious resistance, like a brake.
One side the springs are releasing, but on the other side the springs are being tensioned.
Result - no gain.

I would think that even giving this device a HARD spin would result in it very quickly coming to a halt.

And a thread title of: "Look at this idea for a gravity wheel" would be much more appropriate than an assine shout of "Working Perpetual Wheel", which it obviously is not.

And your claims of being too busy touring the U.S. for the last 40 years to pursue your claimed building of the first perpetual motion gravity wheel in history makes you out to be a nutjob at best.

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Re: Working Perpetual Wheel Using Springs
« Reply #34 on: February 23, 2009, 09:30:24 AM »
No one likes to be lied to.
Bessler007
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Not true Bessler,

Go to any church, synagogue, temple, mosque or parliament in the world and you will find evidence to the contrary.  :P ;D

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Re: Working Perpetual Wheel Using Springs
« Reply #34 on: February 23, 2009, 09:30:24 AM »
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Offline hoptoad

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Re: Working Perpetual Wheel Using Springs
« Reply #35 on: February 23, 2009, 09:53:06 AM »
Not true Bessler,
Go to any church, synagogue, temple, mosque or parliament in the world and you will find evidence to the contrary.  :P ;D
Hans von Lieven
ROFLMAO ......    now that's the truth .....KneeDeep

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Re: Working Perpetual Wheel Using Springs
« Reply #36 on: February 23, 2009, 10:50:45 AM »
author=hansvonlieven link=topic=6875.msg159426#msg159426 date=1235377824]

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Go to any church.......................and you will find evidence to the contrary.  :P ;D


Han's,  that's entirely unfair!

So can I assume that according to you, going to Church on Sunday's is a wast of people's time ?

How about Johann Bessler's inspirational dream, due credit to his Christian faith & lifestyle ?




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Re: Working Perpetual Wheel Using Springs
« Reply #36 on: February 23, 2009, 10:50:45 AM »
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Offline Yortuk Festrunk

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Re: Working Perpetual Wheel Using Springs
« Reply #37 on: February 23, 2009, 11:04:09 AM »
The tension of the springs/balls pulling against the wheel would result is serious resistance, like a brake.
One side the springs are releasing, but on the other side the springs are being tensioned.
Result - no gain.

I would think that even giving this device a HARD spin would result in it very quickly coming to a halt.

And a thread title of: "Look at this idea for a gravity wheel" would be much more appropriate than an assine shout of "Working Perpetual Wheel", which it obviously is not.

And your claims of being too busy touring the U.S. for the last 40 years to pursue your claimed building of the first perpetual motion gravity wheel in history makes you out to be a nutjob at best.


Another with poor perception and reading comprehension skills.

How can you make that assumption without knowing the tension of the springs? You DON"T know the tension so you CAN"T say anything about it.

You must not have even read this entire thread or you would have seen the post with the WM download that shows it working.

I never said I was touring the USA. I'm not a rock star. But again, if you had reading comprehension skills and read this whole tread, then you would know the whole story.

And there have been many working wheels in history. Unless you are calling Bessler a liar.

You sound like the nutjob, so go back to playing with Peter Pan in your nutjob world.

Offline Bessler007

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Re: Working Perpetual Wheel Using Springs
« Reply #38 on: February 23, 2009, 02:38:35 PM »
Hans,

Bless you, my son.  I'm sending you two (I'm not tithing this Sunday) coupons.  They're as good as cash.




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Re: Working Perpetual Wheel Using Springs
« Reply #38 on: February 23, 2009, 02:38:35 PM »
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Re: Working Perpetual Wheel Using Springs
« Reply #39 on: February 23, 2009, 08:40:46 PM »
Another with poor perception and reading comprehension skills.

How can you make that assumption without knowing the tension of the springs? You DON"T know the tension so you CAN"T say anything about it.

You must not have even read this entire thread or you would have seen the post with the WM download that shows it working.

I never said I was touring the USA. I'm not a rock star. But again, if you had reading comprehension skills and read this whole tread, then you would know the whole story.

And there have been many working wheels in history. Unless you are calling Bessler a liar.

You sound like the nutjob, so go back to playing with Peter Pan in your nutjob world.

We do not need to know the tension.  All springs have some tension, and he is therefore correct.

You did make the excuse of there being so many things to see and do in the USA that you have not had time to rebuild the wheel.  While it appears that no one believes you, hell, if you are serious about the wheel, why don't you just set some time aside for it and build it yourself and prove everyone wrong?

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Re: Working Perpetual Wheel Using Springs
« Reply #40 on: February 23, 2009, 09:40:29 PM »
We do not need to know the tension.  All springs have some tension, and he is therefore correct.

You did make the excuse of there being so many things to see and do in the USA that you have not had time to rebuild the wheel.  While it appears that no one believes you, hell, if you are serious about the wheel, why don't you just set some time aside for it and build it yourself and prove everyone wrong?

Maybe a class in reading comprehension should be held for these inept posters. Yet another who hasn't read the whole thread.

Read it all before posting things that don't make sense.

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Re: Working Perpetual Wheel Using Springs
« Reply #40 on: February 23, 2009, 09:40:29 PM »
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Re: Working Perpetual Wheel Using Springs
« Reply #41 on: February 23, 2009, 10:46:21 PM »
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Back in the 1970s, my brother Georg and I made a toy that kept turning by itself until you stopped it yourself.

Background on George and Yortuk Festrunk, two wild and crazy guys.

 :D



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Re: Working Perpetual Wheel Using Springs
« Reply #42 on: February 23, 2009, 11:37:05 PM »
Background on George and Yortuk Festrunk, two wild and crazy guys.

 :D



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And your point? TROLL

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Re: Working Perpetual Wheel Using Springs
« Reply #43 on: February 24, 2009, 12:03:14 AM »
The point, ARSE WIPE, is the names were ripped from a SNL fiction.  Coincidental 2 brothers have the same names as those from a comedy sketch?

Hope you don't mind if I mimic your style although I do find your use of name calling a bit controversial, irrelevant and inflammatory.  Was that YOUR point?


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Re: Working Perpetual Wheel Using Springs
« Reply #44 on: February 24, 2009, 12:05:42 AM »
The point, ARSE WIPE, is the names were ripped from a SNL fiction.

Hope you don't mind if I mimic your style.



Bessler007
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Talking out the back of your head again TROLL.

 

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