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Author Topic: Working Perpetual Wheel Using Springs  (Read 24858 times)

Offline Yortuk Festrunk

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Working Perpetual Wheel Using Springs
« on: February 20, 2009, 11:10:55 AM »
Back in the 1970s, my brother Georg and I made a toy that kept turning by itself until you stopped it yourself. It worked by springs being stretched out as they were guided around a wheel and the tension of the springs would pull the wheel back around.

When we left Czechoslovakia, we were unable to bring it with us and we never got around to making it again because there was so much to see and do in the U.S.A.

I don't know if you can say this is gravity wheel because it uses springs to make it turn.


The green circle does not turn. The purple circle is the wheel that turns.
The red balls are wheels and they hang on springs which are the yellow lines.
When the balls get to the bottom, the springs stretch and then they pull the wheel back up on the other side.

Now that you know how it works, perhaps someone can make a working one.
It can turn either way.

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Offline mindsweeper

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Re: Working Perpetual Wheel Using Springs
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2009, 12:50:54 PM »
Greetings Yortuk,

Welcome to the forum.

I had a look at your drawing and thought the idea was nice so I quickly made a simulation in WM2D. I cannot get it to work in the simulation software.

So.

I have attached a pic and the .wm2d file so if you were to download the demo you can also have a play with it. Perhaps I did something wrong.

sweep.

Offline broli

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Re: Working Perpetual Wheel Using Springs
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2009, 12:52:40 PM »
Yortuk, why haven't you build it again? Surely this design is so simple and you already have done it once!

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Re: Working Perpetual Wheel Using Springs
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2009, 12:52:40 PM »
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Offline Yortuk Festrunk

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Re: Working Perpetual Wheel Using Springs
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2009, 03:58:13 PM »
Greetings Yortuk,

Welcome to the forum.

I had a look at your drawing and thought the idea was nice so I quickly made a simulation in WM2D. I cannot get it to work in the simulation software.

So.

I have attached a pic and the .wm2d file so if you were to download the demo you can also have a play with it. Perhaps I did something wrong.

sweep.


Hi sweep.

I tried your wheel, but it is slightly out of balance.

This is a wm2d I made that you can enjoy.

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Working Perpetual Wheel Using Springs
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2009, 04:15:50 PM »
Once again, a thread that does NOT deliver what the title says.

Too busy seeing the sights in the USA to re-build the world's simplest PERPETUAL MOTION free energy machine.
Right. And in the nearly 40 years since, you still haven't found time to rebuild it.
Sure. That makes sense--after all, USA is a big place with lots to see.


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Re: Working Perpetual Wheel Using Springs
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Offline Yortuk Festrunk

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Re: Working Perpetual Wheel Using Springs
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2009, 05:46:33 PM »
Once again, a thread that does NOT deliver what the title says.

Too busy seeing the sights in the USA to re-build the world's simplest PERPETUAL MOTION free energy machine.
Right. And in the nearly 40 years since, you still haven't found time to rebuild it.
Sure. That makes sense--after all, USA is a big place with lots to see.



Well, you're obviously not the sharpest tack in the drawer. I posted a working wheel in the post just above yours.

My brother was the one with the building skills. I cannot build thing like he could.

Offline mindsweeper

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Re: Working Perpetual Wheel Using Springs
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2009, 06:02:19 PM »
Hi Yortuk,

Please set the air resistance to high (in world settings) at the moment it's not set to anything.

I think this is why the wheel turns. Perhaps a little more tinkering is needed.

I do like the idea tho, nice try..

sweep

EDIT: ignore the trolls, they wound me up for a while but I'm starting to see through them now, there not worth the finger movement.

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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Working Perpetual Wheel Using Springs
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2009, 06:58:56 PM »
"Well, you're obviously not the sharpest tack in the drawer. I posted a working wheel in the post just above yours."

No, you posted a SIMULATION of a working wheel. That, sorry to say, won't win you Hartmann's prize. Or any credibility.

Just build the damn thing and show it working.  That's all you have to do, to PROVE ME WRONG.

Until you do, you're just like all the other claimants. Just blowing hot air.

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Re: Working Perpetual Wheel Using Springs
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2009, 07:35:25 PM »
TinselKola,
calm down or I will put you on ReadOnly.

It is nice to see at least a wheel which works in WM2D,
but unfortunately no more, if you set the air resistance to low speed.

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Re: Working Perpetual Wheel Using Springs
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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Working Perpetual Wheel Using Springs
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2009, 07:46:43 PM »
TinselKola,
calm down or I will put you on ReadOnly.

It is nice to see at least a wheel which works in WM2D,
but unfortunately no more, if you set the air resistance to low speed.

Fine.
But why aren't you concerned about all the posts that claim to have a working "something" but never turn out to actually have it?
Look at your front page. Look at the thread titles. How many of them claim working devices? How many actually have working devices?
Ban me if you like. But you can't change the TRUTH.

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Re: Working Perpetual Wheel Using Springs
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2009, 08:01:54 PM »
Tinsel,
I just meant, you should respect the work of others
trying to build or simulate something.

Be nice to them and don´t shout at them !

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Re: Working Perpetual Wheel Using Springs
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2009, 08:01:54 PM »
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Offline broli

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Re: Working Perpetual Wheel Using Springs
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2009, 08:13:05 PM »
There is no truth it's all everyone's opinion. And the opinion here is quite unanimous. Either share how you can improve on the ideas or keep your belittling comments to yourself because they help no one. The self righteous behavior of some here is seriously annoying.

Offline AB Hammer

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Re: Working Perpetual Wheel Using Springs
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2009, 08:22:39 PM »
Tinsel

Remember he is working with a 35+ year old memory, just as I have with a magnet wheel. There still could be something missing. It is a very easy to construct this idea, even though I have my doubts. In this game nothing should be held for granted unless already proved a nonworking idea or effects.

Offline brian334

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Re: Working Perpetual Wheel Using Springs
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2009, 09:42:27 PM »
I thought this website was about free speech.

Offline mindsweeper

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Re: Working Perpetual Wheel Using Springs
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2009, 11:30:40 PM »
I thought this website was about free speech.


It's an OU forum,

But some people think it's ok to belittle others for having an idea, helping would be better. If they put there energy into saying why things wont work instead of ripping into people and insulting them it would be a better place.

I guess some people think free speech is anything they want to say and that's just not very supportive is it.




 

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