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Offline hartiberlin

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Successful Gray motor replication !
« on: February 19, 2009, 05:55:29 AM »
Hi,
have a look at this great new Gray motor replication:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rFjrPo9mws


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Successful Gray motor replication !
« on: February 19, 2009, 05:55:29 AM »

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Re: Successful Gray motor replication !
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2009, 08:44:44 PM »
Here's the origional EMA6.


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Re: Successful Gray motor replication !
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2009, 12:33:21 AM »
@ marco,

Something out of Doctor Who and the Daleks??   ??? ;D ;D

Hans von Lieven
« Last Edit: March 02, 2009, 01:43:13 AM by hansvonlieven »

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Re: Successful Gray motor replication !
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2009, 12:33:21 AM »
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Re: Successful Gray motor replication !
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2009, 08:00:02 PM »
New here so be gentle;  I have read plenty and then plenty more on other sites but not here.  All i seem to be able to think about is building one of these types of devices.  after seeing your video I couldnt resist the urge to post.  Im not even sure of the rules of this forums as to weather i can post my email here or not but i would like to chat you or others that have a working prototype.  Seems like there are plenty of people who have been successful at building some form or variant of this device.
Gotta start somewhere.



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Re: Successful Gray motor replication !
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2009, 09:50:14 PM »
This is a experiment using a 36v dc motor to power a 2.5kw generator, also a 19hp DC motor running a 10kw generator.
Tom.

http://www.youtube.com/user/OverUnityNow1#play/uploads/4/hoePnziUP3o

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Offline robbosdog

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Re: Successful Gray motor replication !
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2009, 09:21:01 AM »
Great work Tommy , a pleasure to watch your vids.

Regards ,
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Re: Successful Gray motor replication !
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2009, 12:33:56 PM »
Thank you, this is just the start of free energy. using Tesla technology i do believe this could be Overuinty.....

Tom

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Offline solinear

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Re: Successful Gray motor replication !
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2009, 03:44:47 AM »
This is a experiment using a 36v dc motor to power a 2.5kw generator, also a 19hp DC motor running a 10kw generator.
Tom.

http://www.youtube.com/user/OverUnityNow1#play/uploads/4/hoePnziUP3o

19hp to power a 10kw generator?  550 ft lbs = 1hp.  1hp = 745 watts.

19hp = 14kw.  You're losing almost 30%.  Very inefficient.  As for 36v DC motor running a 2.5kw generator - how many amps is the DC motor pulling and is it running at maximum speed or some smaller % of max?

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Re: Successful Gray motor replication !
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2009, 11:13:27 AM »
10kw= (10,000/746) or 13.4 hp, but you can not get have 13.4 hp engine to produce 10kw.

Many factor are taking place:
 
For a 5kw generator you would use up to 11hp to produce 5kw or 6kw peek output to keep the rpm's constant at 3,600 rpm's.
As the engine spins the generator runs up to 3,600 rpm's(60hz), this takes some hp from total input of the engine hp.
That is a loss that won't be added to the total output, in other words if it takes 2hp to keep the generator running at 3,600rpms, and the total engine is 10hp.
10hp-2hp=8hp output or (8*746)=5,968watts(6kw).
Extra hp is added to help the generator to react to surge loads too.

So 19hp engine would work for a 10kw generator just fine, some are using 22hp-25hp for a 10kw generator.

Aways remember to move a bicycle up to a speed you have to put energy into it, if you ride that same bicycle you have to add more energy to it.
If you walk 10 mile it takes energy, but run that same 10 miles as fast as you can and you will find you don't have enough energy to keep at the same speed.
If one energy push right at 100lb and the another energy push left at 100lb, and they both run in to each other, they both will stop to one point.
But if one  has a extra 10lb of energy then they would move 10lb forward  (110lb-100lb)=10lb.
In other words, anytime you spin something it take energy to get to a speed needed, this is aways a loss.

TLR


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Re: Successful Gray motor replication !
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Re: Successful Gray motor replication !
« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2009, 08:51:27 PM »
10kw= (10,000/746) or 13.4 hp, but you can not get have 13.4 hp engine to produce 10kw.

Many factor are taking place:
 
For a 5kw generator you would use up to 11hp to produce 5kw or 6kw peek output to keep the rpm's constant at 3,600 rpm's.
As the engine spins the generator runs up to 3,600 rpm's(60hz), this takes some hp from total input of the engine hp.
That is a loss that won't be added to the total output, in other words if it takes 2hp to keep the generator running at 3,600rpms, and the total engine is 10hp.
10hp-2hp=8hp output or (8*746)=5,968watts(6kw).
Extra hp is added to help the generator to react to surge loads too.

So 19hp engine would work for a 10kw generator just fine, some are using 22hp-25hp for a 10kw generator.

Aways remember to move a bicycle up to a speed you have to put energy into it, if you ride that same bicycle you have to add more energy to it.
If you walk 10 mile it takes energy, but run that same 10 miles as fast as you can and you will find you don't have enough energy to keep at the same speed.
If one energy push right at 100lb and the another energy push left at 100lb, and they both run in to each other, they both will stop to one point.
But if one  has a extra 10lb of energy then they would move 10lb forward  (110lb-100lb)=10lb.
In other words, anytime you spin something it take energy to get to a speed needed, this is aways a loss.

TLR

I understand friction and losses.

This is an over unity site, where we believe that you can build a motor that will get out more than is input into it.

If you're looking for input from people here though, it's unlikely that they will provide you with much assistance - they focus on volts in and out instead of watts frequently, provide half bits of information like stating the potential of both the motor and generator, but not the actual running numbers and usually build motors that sit around 60-70% efficiency.  Since the standard motor you buy in the store will get you 75-90% (and larger brushless motors will get you up to 96% efficiency), they won't be able to help you in an underunity discussion.  I mostly come here to look at what other people have done, then run through my head and go "Yeah, this design can't work because...." over and over.  Once in a while I find an interesting design that kicks an idea loose in my head and I go play with it.  The best I've done so far was just over 90% on a brushed motor design I built.  I understood that I was playing by the same rules (with the same flaws) as previous designs that most engineers come up with.

There are some really clever people here, but there are a lot more crackpots who go "OMG, this is it, free energy for everyone!!!" with every other design and poorly done youtube video.  Until I see (or build) something that speeds up when you plug the output into the input, I'll be skeptical to the point of offhandedly dismissing every claim until they achive the output to input speed up.

 

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