Author Topic: Knitel's InfinityPump (Read 131132 times)

wizkycho · « **Reply #135 on:** February 20, 2009, 01:34:35 AM »

Quote from: hansvonlieven on February 20, 2009, 12:45:57 AM

G'day all,

This is the first in a series that shows why devices such as the Knitel device cannot work. The first segment explains the hydrostatic paradox, which is fundamental to the understanding of any hydrostatic and hydraulic system.

Since I can no longer embed my graphics here I was forced to use Microsoft word for the paper as the graphics need to be in their correct places. I apologise for this. I will later put the whole paper on my website in HTML form since it appears to be a popular subject.

I hope you guys appreciate this, this is a lot of work.

Hans von Lieven

Principle of work changing media Air/Fluid(water) and making therefore much heavier/much lighter floater works and this 60% - 70% is mine in Knitel's Infinity pump and works as such.
Only the suction action that is not introduced by me is not working as easily as it should. I just embrased the idea. It would be differently made if introduced by me,certanly.

Me or somone else will sooner then later build something on this principle.

This is strong workable principle to further build on.

Anyway Hans thanks for these 2 pages now when its to late, as I recall It I should read a whole book of how many pages ?...aren't you having a wicked laugh now.
I asked you to point out Your dissagremment in a plain way (edit simple picture), you acted god. drawing even simpler pictures for two days.
Kind of man that sees someone is going to abyys has a chance of warning him but is silent and waits what...It is not funny it is wicked
This is not guessing Quiz, You say what you know or don't even participate here. These politicant games you play are not nullified with 2 pages you could have copied
from anywhere, anytime...

This is how You look now, so don't repeat it...cause it's just nasty, not smart and leads knowhere. You should learn from Hildenbrand
From You I don't wan't any knowledge cause it comes with too too too many other ingridients.

please don't bump again into my topic if you mean to explain nothing - and afterwards make a point on my behalf. this is not gladiators game.
this is for civilized people.

Wiz

TinselKoala · « **Reply #136 on:** February 20, 2009, 01:35:33 AM »

Thank you Hans! Excellent work and very clearly explained. Looking forward to the next chapter!!

wizkycho · « **Reply #137 on:** February 20, 2009, 01:42:57 AM »

Quote from: TinselKoala on February 20, 2009, 01:35:33 AM

Thank you Hans! Excellent work and very clearly explained. Looking forward to the next chapter!!

What? Has he solved some problem ? Him ? I wouldn't think so ?
Just another politician - wanting glory bah ...full of them

Wiz

TinselKoala · « **Reply #138 on:** February 20, 2009, 01:43:15 AM »

"Principle of work changing media Air/Fluid(water) and making therefore much heavier/much lighter floater works and this 60% - 70% is mine in Knitel's Infinity pump and works as such."

Wiz, what the heck are you talking about? In the first place, the statement above is incorrect. You can't get work from bouyancy even by changing the medium the balls or floats are travelling through. Once again, I will link to Simanek's analysis of this problem, and I ask anybody to refute it, by stating specific points where it is wrong. So far, I've done this several times and nobody has said where the analysis on Simanek's site is wrong. Not surprising, really--because he ISN'T wrong, mostly.

http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/museum/unwork.htm#buoy4
http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/museum/themes/buoyant.htm

And in the second place, Hans knows what he's talking about and you should pay attention, instead of throwing a "hissy fit".

ResinRat2 · « **Reply #139 on:** February 20, 2009, 01:45:35 AM »

Quote from: hansvonlieven on February 20, 2009, 12:45:57 AM

I hope you guys appreciate this, this is a lot of work.
Hans von Lieven

Thanks Hans, this is one RAT that does. LOL!

sushimoto · « **Reply #140 on:** February 20, 2009, 01:52:22 AM »

Quote from: wizkycho on February 20, 2009, 01:42:57 AM

What? Has he solved some problem ? Him ? I wouldn't think so ?
Just another politician - wanting glory bah ...full of them

Wiz

So you were not looking for Glory?

Quote from: wizkycho on February 19, 2009, 03:31:20 PM

<SNIP>
So it is called Knitel's InfinityPump...because 60%-70% and closing the loop is done by that fabulous, wonderfull, brilliant, careing, goodlooking, civilized, magicall, explorer, brain stormer, extraordinary mind, protector of weak, justfull, leader, strong carrisma,with prodigy, dexterity, agility,...what to say then perfect...

the very same Knitel Igor

Wiz

But I am still confident that there is a lot of space left
beetween crative thinkers like You and scientists like Hans.
Hans is very much open-minded and so should you be.
Keep cool wiz. Your day will come.

ramset · « **Reply #141 on:** February 20, 2009, 02:02:02 AM »

Yes WIZ

YOUR DAY WILL COME!!

Chet

wizkycho · « **Reply #142 on:** February 20, 2009, 02:03:51 AM »

Quote from: TinselKoala on February 20, 2009, 01:43:15 AM

"Principle of work changing media Air/Fluid(water) and making therefore much heavier/much lighter floater works and this 60% - 70% is mine in Knitel's Infinity pump and works as such."

Wiz, what the heck are you talking about? In the first place, the statement above is incorrect. You can't get work from bouyancy even by changing the medium the balls or floats are travelling through. Once again, I will link to Simanek's analysis of this problem, and I ask anybody to refute it, by stating specific points where it is wrong. So far, I've done this several times and nobody has said where the analysis on Simanek's site is wrong. Not surprising, really--because he ISN'T wrong, mostly.

http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/museum/unwork.htm#buoy4
http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/museum/themes/buoyant.htm

And in the second place, Hans knows what he's talking about and you should pay attention, instead of throwing a "hissy fit".

TinselKoala and Hans are banned from my topic cause of heresy (politicant action and nothing in good will) against Overuity Principles and inhuman blindness

cause device based on this exists and works,
http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/museum/unwork.htm#buoy4

tbird may stay if he wants he explained it to me cause he knew what he was talking about.

Hans and Tinsel your too late barbaric enjoyment over my lost hopes and your too late half knowledge forbid you to evevn open topic started with WizKycho - in future
All you have done here is ok with one but huge flaw You are OVERDOING IT, berrying even devices that are workable... please not on my topic.

Wiz

TinselKoala · « **Reply #143 on:** February 20, 2009, 02:09:57 AM »

Once again, I see no refutation of Simanek's analysis. Just another BOGUS claim. If there is a device like this that works, SHOW IT.

And next time, do your homework, it will save you (and the rest of us) a lot of trouble.

wizkycho · « **Reply #144 on:** February 20, 2009, 02:17:11 AM »

Ramset, Hans, Tinsel, Sushimoto You are in a wrong place, wrong time, wrong site and especially wrong topic
so let Simanek make you a forum called "let's brake anything that works" where you can chat your brains out.

and Ramset
what do You mean Your Day Will come

is this a threat or warning ?

Wiz

hansvonlieven · « **Reply #145 on:** February 20, 2009, 02:17:28 AM »

@ wizkycho,

Your attack is totally unwarranted. I have never gloated over you, all I have tried to do is to teach you and everyone else who is interested some physics. To that extent I have gone to considerable length to explain the underlying principles and phenomena that this subject engenders.

You cannot alter the laws of nature with postulates that run contrary to it. You seem to be under the impression that you can alter the laws of nature simply by repeating something that is not real.

I am not talking about weird theories here, I am talking about repeatable experimentation, something you cannot offer.

You are the one that is blind, but maybe that suits you.

Hans von Lieven

wizkycho · « **Reply #146 on:** February 20, 2009, 02:19:53 AM »

Quote from: TinselKoala on February 20, 2009, 02:09:57 AM

Once again, I see no refutation of Simanek's analysis. Just another BOGUS claim. If there is a device like this that works, SHOW IT.

And next time, do your homework, it will save you (and the rest of us) a lot of trouble.

...please be civilized and leave my topic...

Wiz

wizkycho · « **Reply #147 on:** February 20, 2009, 02:21:02 AM »

Quote from: hansvonlieven on February 20, 2009, 02:17:28 AM

@ wizkycho,

Your attack is totally unwarranted. I have never gloated over you, all I have tried to do is to teach you and everyone else who is interested some physics. To that extent I have gone to considerable length to explain the underlying principles and phenomena that this subject engenders.

You cannot alter the laws of nature with postulates that run contrary to it. You seem to be under the impression that you can alter the laws of nature simply by repeating something that is not real.

I am not talking about weird theories here, I am talking about repeatable experimentation, something you cannot offer.

You are the one that is blind, but maybe that suits you.

Hans von Lieven

...be civilized and leave my topic as asked ,make yours...

Wiz

ramset · « **Reply #148 on:** February 20, 2009, 02:25:12 AM »

wIZ
iT IS A GOOD THING NOT A BAD THING

THINKING OUT SIDE THE BOX

YOUR DAY OF SUCCESS WILL COME!!

Chet

hansvonlieven · « **Reply #149 on:** February 20, 2009, 02:32:30 AM »

Quote from: wizkycho on February 20, 2009, 02:21:02 AM

...be civilized and leave my topic as asked ,make yours...

Wiz

This is NOT your topic!

Granted you started it but this is where it ends. This is a forum. All of us that put our ideas forward put them up to the scrutiny of our peers.

We may be right, we may be wrong.

Whenever we are wrong the contribution of the other members help us by pointing out what is incorrect. Hopefully we all learn that way. That is what a forum is all about.

If you think that starting a thread entitles you to force wrong ideas down other people's throats you are in the wrong place.

Hans von Lieven

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