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wizkycho

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Re: Knitel's InfinityPump
« Reply #150 on: February 20, 2009, 02:49:27 AM »
wIZ
iT IS A GOOD THING NOT A BAD THING

THINKING OUT SIDE THE BOX

YOUR DAY OF SUCCESS WILL COME!!

Chet

I allready am successfull, every day of my life.
but appritiate a tought.

Wiz

wizkycho

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Re: Knitel's InfinityPump
« Reply #151 on: February 20, 2009, 03:15:52 AM »
So you were not looking for Glory?

But I am still confident that there is a lot of space left
beetween crative thinkers like You and scientists like Hans.
Hans is very much open-minded and so should you be.
Keep cool wiz. Your day will come.

now what is this ?

You think I'm down and You won something. You Hans guys lost (since you started win loose "teach" situation). My principle of operation is working. remember that - changing media Air/Fluid... None of You can say or claim different. It is You who have failed to in 13 pages explain simple thing as multiplication of preassure, to me and others. and knowing that for so long not be able to give slightest modification or even a tought on how it can be even closely compensated.  talking about expirienced scientists in a field of hydrostatics.
Pumping action with weight can/might/has allready some workaround or solution...I can not think of it now.
    But without positive ideas (even false ones), with ambush style knowledge teaching.
...this is not productive at all. Not even teching not even communicating NO nothing.


Wiz

wizkycho

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Re: Knitel's InfinityPump
« Reply #152 on: February 20, 2009, 03:20:22 AM »
To conclude !

Knitel's InfinityPump is not working in Overunity mode as it is, but it's main principle of work stays intact and solid.
"Only" or Only multiplication of preassure in pumping action needs to be solved - lowered in ammount - or some other workaround.
...
Wiz

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Re: Knitel's InfinityPump
« Reply #153 on: February 20, 2009, 05:20:13 AM »
hi wiz and all,

i see you guys have had some extended chats.  if all the venting is finished, maybe we could kick another thought around for a bit.

what if we took the output from a different place?  might it be possible to put the float part via extensions in the supply water (could be deeper)?  and tap the power from the transfer flow?

i only just came up with this and haven't put any thought into it, but it's food for thought.

time to rest now, see ya tomorrow.

tom

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Re: Knitel's InfinityPump
« Reply #154 on: February 20, 2009, 05:28:28 AM »
one other last thought.

or could we float the weight in steps?

good night for sure now.

tom

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Re: Knitel's InfinityPump
« Reply #155 on: February 20, 2009, 05:36:58 AM »
What, you think that by editing out my posts and links you can change reality?
Your claims are bogus and you know it, or you would address the issues.
But go ahead and waste your time on this idea, it will keep you out of danger.

Be sure to let me know when you've got a working model. But I won't be holding my breath.

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Re: Knitel's InfinityPump
« Reply #156 on: February 20, 2009, 06:08:17 AM »
Hi Wiz,
well please calm down.

Hans has done a good work in explaining a few facts so far and I am looking forward to
see the next chapter...

I myself am seeing now the problem with the pressure ratios at the top of the device,
where the diameter change from the small pipe to the main cylinder diameter makes
these introduced animation NOT functional..

But wait, maybe we can use ourself the hydrostatic paradoxon to our advantage ?

What about making the right small pipe  bigger in diameter, shortly before it touches
the water of the bassin ?

Then we still must move only a bit more water up,
but we don´t have anymore the diameter ratios at the top,
cause it it compensated by the bigger diameter at the bottom pipe ?

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Re: Knitel's InfinityPump
« Reply #157 on: February 20, 2009, 06:10:40 AM »
@ Tinsel Koala,

Methinks the fellow is a solipsist.  I bet he won't even look up the word. In their idea of the world nothing truly exists outside themselves. They believe that everything they perceive is of their own creation.

The corollary to this is that if they repeat a lie often enough and in enough fictitious spaces (for no space outside themselves is real) it becomes truth in their world, which is the only world that exists in their tiny little minds.

You cannot argue with someone like this because you don't really exist as far as they are concerned, except as a negative flow in their own consciousness that is trying to divert them from knowing the ultimate truth.

That is why they get so pissed off in the presence of reality.

Hans von Lieven

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Re: Knitel's InfinityPump
« Reply #158 on: February 20, 2009, 07:27:11 AM »
Hi All,
what about something like this ?


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Re: Knitel's InfinityPump
« Reply #159 on: February 20, 2009, 09:22:43 AM »

I hope you guys appreciate this, this is a lot of work.  ;D

Hans von Lieven

I know what it takes to make such papers.

THANKS  8) HANS!!!!!

wizkycho

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Re: Knitel's InfinityPump
« Reply #160 on: February 20, 2009, 09:45:30 AM »
What, you think that by editing out my posts and links you can change reality?
Your claims are bogus and you know it, or you would address the issues.
But go ahead and waste your time on this idea, it will keep you out of danger.

Be sure to let me know when you've got a working model. But I won't be holding my breath.

@harti

I assure You I'm calm as forest tree.

@Hans and his minioins

I claimed and still do that there is such object that is ultra heavy in air and in a same time has properties that is bellow 0g ultra light in water, well known, even to You. and that this huge change in weight can be used to tame wast ammounts of energy. I still claim that.
This is what Hans and You on account of some other problem (pressure multiplication) traying to deny. That is why You are slightly said OVERDOING IT
cause of inertia of Your nay saying toughts. So Hold on guys We are not competing who is smartest but trying to solve a problem.
You had many chances to point and explain egzact problem and were asked politely to do so,
But no You asked me to shush and wait till the King Hans and his minions passes through, when he want's and how he wants, and be sure to have enough flowers to gloryfy his words, saying nothing new, not explaining nothing, saying few words in riddles...

Is this the way You wan't me to participate here, as humble shut up minion and not to ask for further explanation, which I fairly did...
If so why are you seraching for overunity then or better to ask do you honestly ? Cause when You have inertia of saying nay no even grass is growing where there was a forest
and this is typicall behaviour of "Energy Conservation" knowhere leading head. Would be nice of You to reveal youself in right light.

On the other hand true Overunity researcher is sometimes OVERDOING IT in going up...So You guys go your way down...I'm going UP, even if I fall I can not fall that deep in ignorance as You can.

I was learning just fine before You came. I will still learn but not from You cause You have simply plain wrong and wastefull methods in every aspect.
Suggesting that I wouldn't stop if I'm only told properly - that I need to leran only by getting a scar - the hard way. You are on very slippery teritory here.

Wiz


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Re: Knitel's InfinityPump
« Reply #161 on: February 20, 2009, 09:54:08 AM »
now what is this ?

You think I'm down and You won something. You Hans guys lost (since you started win loose "teach" situation). My principle of operation is working. remember that - changing media Air/Fluid... None of You can say or claim different. It is You who have failed to in 13 pages explain simple thing as multiplication of preassure, to me and others. and knowing that for so long not be able to give slightest modification or even a tought on how it can be even closely compensated.  talking about expirienced scientists in a field of hydrostatics.
Pumping action with weight can/might/has allready some workaround or solution...I can not think of it now.
    But without positive ideas (even false ones), with ambush style knowledge teaching.
...this is not productive at all. Not even teching not even communicating NO nothing.
Wiz


Wiz, you are such a Diva. ;D

This forum ist not an arena, were one tries to kill another.
There are no "Hans-Guys".
Just different opinions, skills and experiences.
We are investigating all of that and the goal is to bring it under one hat.
In almost every one of my posts, i were positive about the theoretical aspects of your concept.
Since nobody builds or simulates it by now, we just have words.

Its your problem, if you just take everything here personally.

Concerning your machine, there were plenty of proposals on how to theoretically overcome technical problems.
You just overread them. No reply on them. Instead, there is a lot of personal ego-stuff.

When somebody complained about too weak buoancy for the piston,
i proposed to add a spring.
When somebody complained about hydrostatic paradoxon,
i proposed to involve capilar forces by making a bunch of thin tubes like in a tree

Maybe my proposals are silly, stupid and not academical funded,
but that is what we need in order to have a mutual brainstorming instead of personal fightings.

regards,
sushi






wizkycho

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Re: Knitel's InfinityPump
« Reply #162 on: February 20, 2009, 10:12:35 AM »
@ Tinsel Koala,

Methinks the fellow is a solipsist.  I bet he won't even look up the word. In their idea of the world nothing truly exists outside themselves. They believe that everything they perceive is of their own creation.

The corollary to this is that if they repeat a lie often enough and in enough fictitious spaces (for no space outside themselves is real) it becomes truth in their world, which is the only world that exists in their tiny little minds.

You cannot argue with someone like this because you don't really exist as far as they are concerned, except as a negative flow in their own consciousness that is trying to divert them from knowing the ultimate truth.

That is why they get so pissed off in the presence of reality.

Hans von Lieven

...Yes I'm allways pissed when in reality who knows why ?
I'll tell You

I'm still 100% and completely enslaved,...
Is that ultimately how it was, how it should be, how it will allways be. is that your ultimate truth ?

Wiz

wizkycho

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Re: Knitel's InfinityPump
« Reply #163 on: February 20, 2009, 10:30:47 AM »
Wiz, you are such a Diva. ;D

This forum ist not an arena, were one tries to kill another.
There are no "Hans-Guys".
Just different opinions, skills and experiences.
We are investigating all of that and the goal is to bring it under one hat.
In almost every one of my posts, i were positive about the theoretical aspects of your concept.
Since nobody builds or simulates it by now, we just have words.

Its your problem, if you just take everything here personally.

Concerning your machine, there were plenty of proposals on how to theoretically overcome technical problems.
You just overread them. No reply on them. Instead, there is a lot of personal ego-stuff.

When somebody complained about too weak buoancy for the piston,
i proposed to add a spring.
When somebody complained about hydrostatic paradoxon,
i proposed to involve capilar forces by making a bunch of thin tubes like in a tree

Maybe my proposals are silly, stupid and not academical funded,
but that is what we need in order to have a mutual brainstorming instead of personal fightings.

regards,
sushi







.. You are right, it is becuse i'm trying to make King Hans and his Minions to teach to stop on time and not to make OVERRIDICULOUS every topic they apper in
not just mine, or on the other hand to leave and join another tribe that has less civilized ways. And You may allso as his devoted admierer
(based on who knows what) and lawyer join that tribe and together you'll find the ultimate truth you seek very fast using your very own methods...
do it on yourselves.

Wiz

wizkycho

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Re: Knitel's InfinityPump
« Reply #164 on: February 20, 2009, 10:40:01 AM »
...
I will continue to dream...
and write here every detail of my dreams no matter how impossible they might sounds, for thy
and still walk proudly...

Wiz