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Author Topic: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"  (Read 123003 times)

sushimoto

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Re: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"
« Reply #30 on: February 17, 2009, 02:59:24 PM »
Scam or not scam?Who cares... It's a nice video anyway. :P

Agree.

I wish, my english would be better to explain how we must see the video.
But this was my comment to  his "visual".

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Hey, this is a great example of how to attract
and teach children about electromagnetics.
Besides of the fact, that your setup cannot autrotate,
I very much hope, that your efford and proposal is to encourage technical interested people.
Instead of trying to prove, that the technical evolution has ended.
PLease use this advantage wisely as a teacher should.

best,
sushi



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Re: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"
« Reply #31 on: February 19, 2009, 11:30:31 PM »
new video from the good man:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Jow_Rt6udA

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Re: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"
« Reply #32 on: February 19, 2009, 11:49:31 PM »
Haven't seen it successful with just one stator assembly.....and the timing and efficiency required for contiguous operation seem to preclude what is shown this particular setup.  Something definitely more than meets eyes and ears as of yet. 

If he has in fact reached OU....Congrats!  If not, then he is very likely closer than he realizes, and might perhaps consider one of the famous lines penned by Dumas.


It would be interesting to see the matter break public domain, Once and for All.




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Re: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"
« Reply #33 on: February 20, 2009, 12:20:46 AM »
Well, it's clearly running more slowly at the end of the period than at the beginning.

I guess the "zero point OU nozzles" are getting clogged up or something. Or the chocolate bearings are heating up like Steorn's and melting and producing more drag at the end.

Or maybe the batteries are running down.


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Re: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"
« Reply #34 on: February 20, 2009, 05:54:02 AM »

He posted a "free energy myth" video and got flamed by some PM believers....his videos since imply a bit of 'puffery' on his part.  It would not be hard at all to simply spin his wheel, charge up the capacitors in his coils, and then run them out. 


If it's one thing I know, if I know anything, about FE......


Dystopian chuckling will be the order of the day if and when it (in it's simple form) is allowed to drop mainstream.



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Re: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"
« Reply #35 on: February 20, 2009, 09:08:25 AM »
Well, it's clearly running more slowly at the end of the period than at the beginning.

I guess the "zero point OU nozzles" are getting clogged up or something. Or the chocolate bearings are heating up like Steorn's and melting and producing more drag at the end.

Or maybe the batteries are running down.


It started with hardly any initial inertia.  It appeared to slow a bit toward the end but by the end it had again sped up.

This video is exciting imo.  I don't really care that he's come down on overunity before.  This is worth playing with regardless of who released it.  I'd still explore this angle if the dreaded desertphile released a vid like this and he would say this video is a hoax.  I hope I'm not wrong but I don't think he's pulling any fakery at this point.  It would be hard for him to turn it, at this point, into a "lesson."

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Re: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"
« Reply #36 on: February 20, 2009, 09:17:32 AM »
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It started with hardly any initial inertia


Yes, quite curious given that his process supposedly depends on it.  The amount of energy input at startup seemingly relies upon stored energy of some kind in order to generate acceleration.


Qin Gang's discovery holds obvious potential.  IF his video is genuine, and he has found the way to do in solid state what Qin implies via dynamic means, (which seems unlikely) then he is in for quite a ride.

Though, given what Bearden has to say as of late, it appears that the veil could begin being torn from different directions at once. 


http://www.cheniere.org/correspondence/020609.htm


I know.


What else is new, right?


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Re: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"
« Reply #37 on: February 20, 2009, 09:59:26 AM »
Scam or not scam?Who cares... It's a nice video anyway. :P

Who cares? Anybody who is seriously looking for such effects and actively researching that´s who.

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Re: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"
« Reply #38 on: February 20, 2009, 10:15:00 AM »
Who cares? Anybody who is seriously looking for such effects and actively researching that´s who.

I do. At least for the academic aspects.
His explanation of Lenz forces are very good visualized and described.

Everything around that is just to attract and make viewers think.
Youtube is not just a plattform for OU-Research.
My little son immediately understood the Lenz-Law
and i were easyliy able to describe the problems to overcome.

Thats why i care.

best,
sushi

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Re: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"
« Reply #39 on: February 20, 2009, 10:15:42 AM »
We must all remember that his wheel is mounted on a motor.

In his last video it does slow down near the end. Maybe his two 9V rechargeables in the base are getting low.

He is careful not to expose the underside when dismantling at the end.

Also considering he is a professor, one would think he had been eager to document this effect in some kind of report.

This is clearly somebody who thinks he´s clever enough to fool the "stupid FE researchers". I´m sure he thinks the dumbo known as desertphile (aka desertshite) is a really good bloke.

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Re: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"
« Reply #40 on: February 20, 2009, 10:31:29 AM »
I do. At least for the academic aspects.
His explanation of Lenz forces are very good visualized and described.

I agree that it´s good to teach kids about electromagnetics. However I do not agree on teaching by lying about anything. In my opinion lying is really bad. Something that should be discouraged at all costs.

Everything around that is just to attract and make viewers think.

So you are saying that the title and concept are just a hook in order to attract viewers to think about physics a little more? He clearly professes to have achieved a perpetual coil/mag motor, he has not, he is lying about that, it´s a really stupid thing to do.

Youtube is not just a plattform for OU-Research.

I agree.

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Re: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"
« Reply #41 on: February 20, 2009, 01:13:46 PM »
I agree that it´s good to teach kids about electromagnetics. However I do not agree on teaching by lying about anything. In my opinion lying is really bad. Something that should be discouraged at all costs.

So you are saying that the title and concept are just a hook in order to attract viewers to think about physics a little more? He clearly professes to have achieved a perpetual coil/mag motor, he has not, he is lying about that, it´s a really stupid thing to do.

I agree.

Yo.
I have had some conversation with him via email .
As a teacher, he must attract his students other than
with plain formulas. Like Advertisement is doing as well,
ADs and Movies are "lying" to us all the time in order to get attention.
With youtube, he makes the whole world like students..

Another educating video which is plain explaining Lenz Forces only
would not have attract that many kids.
If kids (and childish adults;)  are understanding, why the Lego-setup could not work,
they do have a very good basis to work on their own solutions.

Thats, why i do like his style.
He is a science-fiction fan, but restricted to teach those futuristic theories at school.
.... What is obviously understandable somehow . ;D

Best,
sushi

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Re: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"
« Reply #42 on: February 20, 2009, 09:06:21 PM »

Yes, quite curious given that his process supposedly depends on it.  The amount of energy input at startup seemingly relies upon stored energy of some kind in order to generate acceleration.


Qin Gang's discovery holds obvious potential.  IF his video is genuine, and he has found the way to do in solid state what Qin implies via dynamic means, (which seems unlikely) then he is in for quite a ride.

Though, given what Bearden has to say as of late, it appears that the veil could begin being torn from different directions at once. 


http://www.cheniere.org/correspondence/020609.htm


I know.


What else is new, right?


TS
good point... I'm no doubt over eager to see something like this be legit.

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Re: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"
« Reply #43 on: February 20, 2009, 09:12:52 PM »
We must all remember that his wheel is mounted on a motor.

In his last video it does slow down near the end. Maybe his two 9V rechargeables in the base are getting low.

He is careful not to expose the underside when dismantling at the end.

Also considering he is a professor, one would think he had been eager to document this effect in some kind of report.

This is clearly somebody who thinks he´s clever enough to fool the "stupid FE researchers". I´m sure he thinks the dumbo known as desertphile (aka desertshite) is a really good bloke.
God I really hate Desertphile.  Doesn't he sound and look drunk as hell in his videos?  I bet he has to down a pint to be able to spew that garbage.

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Re: New youtube of magnet/coil "perpetual motion"
« Reply #44 on: February 20, 2009, 09:45:39 PM »
God I really hate Desertphile.  Doesn't he sound and look drunk as hell in his videos?  I bet he has to down a pint to be able to spew that garbage.

Lol, yeah, probably a pint of hard liquor the miserable old souse!