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Author Topic: What industrys are interested in promoting free energy?  (Read 12537 times)

Offline vasik041

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Re: What industrys are interested in promoting free energy?
« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2014, 07:13:02 PM »
I am also following this forum probably for 10 years now.
Unfortunately I don't see any significant progress, people "running in circles", making same mistakes, repeating same experiments. Noise level is very high and no coordinated research done...Every newcomer have to start himself from very beginning.

Actually it is not specific for this forum, it's common issue. :(


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Re: What industrys are interested in promoting free energy?
« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2014, 07:35:41 PM »
Yes, the vast majority of 'free energy' could save themselves countless hours and untold amounts of money by just learning proper measurement, physics, scientific methods, first principles etc.
Imagine an rank amateur (such as I) thinking that they could perform brain surgery, without doing a lot of learning.
IMHO, the educational system is not up to the task.
I keep going because my commitment to making a difference is greater than the 'noise'.
And, even if you think that the world is coming to an end, technology won't 'save' us. We need a transformation in how we relate to the world and each other.

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Re: What industrys are interested in promoting free energy?
« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2014, 08:05:27 PM »
I think real change can be achieved only if people start organizing and cooperating, something like open source in software needed. Not a news site or wiki full of nonsense but group of organized people, working together to achieve the goal...



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Re: What industrys are interested in promoting free energy?
« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2014, 08:05:27 PM »
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Offline memoryman

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Re: What industrys are interested in promoting free energy?
« Reply #18 on: February 05, 2014, 08:27:57 PM »
So, are you actively involved? What role are YOU willing to take on? How will you make a difference?

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Re: What industrys are interested in promoting free energy?
« Reply #19 on: February 05, 2014, 09:02:34 PM »
 Well, I am doing FE research in my free time.
 After 10 years doing it silently, I decided share some of my results (see vasik041.wordpress.com)
 I started a yahoo group last October. I published some documents.
 It is just a beginning and kind of experiment to see what will come out of it.
 
 "Difference" can be made in many ways
 - by collecting information about FE devices and providing reliable, well structured info
 - analyzing available information and theories
 - testing and doing replication attempts
 - publication of results, accumulating reliable data to help newcomers
 - education efforts
 
 But common perception of FE is that it's a scam or it is impossible.
 So finding proper people and organizing is a difficult part :-)

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Re: What industrys are interested in promoting free energy?
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Offline memoryman

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Re: What industrys are interested in promoting free energy?
« Reply #20 on: February 06, 2014, 04:19:40 AM »
If FE means breaking LoT1 than it has a lot of skepticism to overcome. There has not one instance demonstrated that breaking LoT1 can be done. All examples that I have seen (limited) fail. I have been involved in several attempts. There is not now, never was and never will be a shortage of energy: only the FORM may be an issue. Given that, the search for FE takes on a different look. After all, all energy IS free; the money is needed for extraction, conversion, storage, distribution, manufacturing, transportation and implementation. And some profit...
It will be very difficult to find an investor who is willing to risk substantial money on a highly speculative (some say impossible) project: an OU device.

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Re: What industrys are interested in promoting free energy?
« Reply #21 on: February 06, 2014, 06:24:09 AM »
"IMHO, the educational system is not up to the task."

Before applying the law shouldn’t you check conditions when it works?
From quantum perspective, can you imagine”isolated” system in real life?
  ;)

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Re: What industrys are interested in promoting free energy?
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Re: What industrys are interested in promoting free energy?
« Reply #22 on: February 06, 2014, 08:41:35 AM »
If FE means breaking LoT1 than it has a lot of skepticism to overcome. There has not one instance demonstrated that breaking LoT1 can be done. All examples that I have seen (limited) fail. I have been involved in several attempts. There is not now, never was and never will be a shortage of energy: only the FORM may be an issue. Given that, the search for FE takes on a different look. After all, all energy IS free; the money is needed for extraction, conversion, storage, distribution, manufacturing, transportation and implementation. And some profit...
It will be very difficult to find an investor who is willing to risk substantial money on a highly speculative (some say impossible) project: an OU device.


What is LoT1? If you insist in talking in a language known only to yourself, you are proving yourself to be unwilling to communicate.

QUOTE..."It will be very difficult to find an investor who is willing to risk substantial money on a highly speculative (some say impossible) project: an OU device."

A few posts back, you were telling us that you had investors in your back pocket that were eager to invest in OU. Were you lying THEN, or, are you lying NOW?


post 3 and counting. CANGAS.

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Re: What industrys are interested in promoting free energy?
« Reply #23 on: February 06, 2014, 10:03:20 AM »
LoT1 = First law of Thermodynamics
"The first law of thermodynamics is a version of the law of conservation of energy, adapted for thermodynamic systems. The law of conservation of energy states that the total energy of an isolated system is constant; energy can be transformed from one form to another, but cannot be created or destroyed. "
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_law_of_thermodynamics




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Re: What industrys are interested in promoting free energy?
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Re: What industrys are interested in promoting free energy?
« Reply #24 on: February 06, 2014, 02:24:58 PM »
LoT1 = First law of Thermodynamics
"The first law of thermodynamics is a version of the law of conservation of energy, adapted for thermodynamic systems. The law of conservation of energy states that the total energy of an isolated system is constant; energy can be transformed from one form to another, but cannot be created or destroyed. "
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_law_of_thermodynamics


LOL  ;D.

I first read of the laws of thermodynamics 6 decades ago. This is the first time I ever heard of a jerk call it by an obscure code name and supposedly expect the reader to understand what the jerk was talking about.

Do you believe that we should try to COMMUNICATE  on this board, or, always try to play silly tricks on each other?

Never mind, I think I can guess which you want to do.   ::)



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Re: What industrys are interested in promoting free energy?
« Reply #25 on: February 06, 2014, 02:49:04 PM »
CANGAS, what is your opinion on the thread's topic ?
Do you think somebody interested in promoting  free energy?

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Re: What industrys are interested in promoting free energy?
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Re: What industrys are interested in promoting free energy?
« Reply #26 on: February 06, 2014, 03:29:44 PM »
CANGAS,I am surprised that you had never heard of LoT1; I see it used in many different places.
Communication occurs differently for each one; calling posters derogatory names such as 'jerk' does not clarify anything.
I stated that I know of several potential investors; they will invest in whatever they deem suitable. Please show specific the post where I said 'invest in OU'.
As nobody ever demonstrated a single example of OU (surplus energy coming from ZPE, wheelwork of nature), they never had to consider it.
My contention is that the resources used to pursue OU may be more effectively used on bringing more conventional technology to market (such as Thorium reactors).

 

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