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Author Topic: Flywheel powered by magnets and gravity? Need ideas.  (Read 14668 times)

magnetman12003

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Re: Flywheel powered by magnets and gravity? Need ideas.
« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2009, 06:44:43 PM »
Hi Fred,

It is a simple concept.

But to get the device to work you have to play with the magnets you have as magnets come in different sizes and strenght. You also have to find distances to space magnets that work. The weight of the flywheel has to thought of as it will be pushed along by the piston magnet.

Its going to take a very long frustrating time to do that as you will find out.

Even if I gave all info as to what I used my flywheel is no longer manufactured so whatever parts I would suggest would be of no help. My flywheel weighs 9 pounds

This part is directed to the fence sitters who just berated and challenged my ideas.

First ---this forum is a LEARNING CENTER where folks pick up on various ideas and run with them. Some ideas have merit others dont. True-- I have submitted both.  We all learn together.
If one manages to construct a true overunity device its up to them to decide which way they want to go with what they found. The device does not belong to overunity.com. and is not available on demand as some fence sitters would think it is.   

I am calling out "two folks" that apparenty like to fence sit in a learning center classroom and sling berating remarks without acually showing what they have constructed to help others..

Its that time--- Sushimoto and TinselKoala --Show the world what your contributions to this group are with regards only to an "All permanent magnet motor device" No electronics please. I would like to see what you have to offer.   "SHOW ALL IN THIS LISTING" with "instructions and diagrams"  as to how to make it.

The rest of the classroom is waiting to see.  Put up or shutup.

Tom


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Re: Flywheel powered by magnets and gravity? Need ideas.
« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2009, 07:53:24 PM »
Thanks for the response Tom.

I know that TinselKoala is very critical of many ideas on this forum. But I have to give him some credit because  (so far) he has *always* been right. I mean, how many ou devices have been replicated on this forum?  Zero. TinselKoala seems to have high level of knowledge. I sometimes wonder why he is even here but I suspect that he has a glimmer of hope that somewhere, someone actually finds ou. Also Tom, you have asked him to "put up or shut". If you step back and look at this thread...it really appears that you are asking us to take your word as you have not shown anything either. I typically believe people are honest...so I believe that you could be on to something.  Since you don't want to release the info, can you tell me how long you were able to run your device?  Did it operate overnight?  Did it have any power other than to self-sustain?

Fred
« Last Edit: February 05, 2009, 11:33:11 PM by Fred Flintstone »

sushimoto

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Re: Flywheel powered by magnets and gravity? Need ideas.
« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2009, 10:44:32 PM »

Its that time--- Sushimoto and TinselKoala --Show the world what your contributions to this group are with regards only to an "All permanent magnet motor device" No electronics please. I would like to see what you have to offer.   "SHOW ALL IN THIS LISTING" with "instructions and diagrams"  as to how to make it.

The rest of the classroom is waiting to see.  Put up or shutup.


Tom

Hi magnetman,
l am still getting notification on this thread and if somebody calls me, i am there.
But before this discussion (maybe) continues, I want to clear up one important thing
which is pretty much elementary and kinda philosophical.
I dont want to fight, blame, or offend you or anybody else here. We are all sitting in the same boat.
In this quest of alternative energies, I do understand everybody here as an elite.
A bit ahead to the common. We do see upcoming problems and maybe desasters and we are looking forward to avoid these.
Just the plain interest on any such device is an advantage. Regardless, if somebody is able to build it,
explains or only has a rough idea without any academical background. This is a discussion platform and therefore
it must allow sceptical statements as well. Just ignore rigid nay-sayers.
I dont know exact numbers, but lets say for this site.
About 16.000 users are involved in the quest for a better real world compared to 20.000.000 addicted to online games and other virtual brain-suckers.

I know very well that you have spent lots of effords for good sake and everything i said here in this thread was valid for this thread only.
Before i was posting, i did reading for about 4 month. Countless hours just to find out,
if there is any advantage in OpenSource instead of working by my own.
Most promising threads ended off-topic with no conclusion, ego-fights or the patent-bla-bla.
A Flywheel IS the right component to make magnet motors and many other mechanical setups better working
and you are experienced and old enough to know that.

So again, in all friendlyness, why do you talk about patenting instead of
making this a better world by showing up a working solution?
You could be the Ghandi of alternative Energies.

*SMILE*





magnetman12003

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Re: Flywheel powered by magnets and gravity? Need ideas.
« Reply #18 on: February 06, 2009, 05:48:33 AM »
I am testing this device right now to see how long it operates and how much of a load it will take and still work. If it works for one week under a load I will be satisfied.

If it does not meet what I feel merits powering other devices I will scrap it.

I dont want it to wind up as a "CURIOSITY" like Mr. Reidar Finsruds perpetual rolling ball device in his locked safe. 

I am not into this at all for any fame, power, or money. The only reason I think about patenting the Up portion of this device is to stop someone else from doing just that. Then selling the rights to big oil where the device gets buried.

My plan is to make it available to the world for free by exposing it on TV.

The cat will be out of the bag then and big oil money will not be able to stop anyone from making it. 

Tom


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Re: Flywheel powered by magnets and gravity? Need ideas.
« Reply #19 on: February 06, 2009, 09:57:33 AM »
We are all sitting in the same boat.
I do not not believe this to be true. You are naïve. There are those
who are trying to interfere with work and impede progress. This
seems to be their job, and they should be recognised by their
actions.
Paul.

magnetman12003

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Re: Flywheel powered by magnets and gravity? Need ideas.
« Reply #20 on: February 14, 2009, 07:13:42 PM »


The device will not carry a load at all.   A curiosity at best.  No good to power anything else.

 I junked it and moved on.

Tom

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Re: Flywheel powered by magnets and gravity? Need ideas.
« Reply #21 on: February 14, 2009, 08:49:26 PM »
Hi Tom,

Well, the obvious question at this point is: Then why not share your idea? Especially if you feel it didn't work. Its possible that it could spark someone here to find the answer to why it didn't work and we would all benefit. What do you say?

Regards,
Charlie

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Re: Flywheel powered by magnets and gravity? Need ideas.
« Reply #22 on: February 14, 2009, 09:59:28 PM »
I do not not believe this to be true. You are naïve. There are those
who are trying to interfere with work and impede progress. This
seems to be their job, and they should be recognised by their
actions.
Paul.

Maybe I do HAVE to be naive in order to even think about OverUnity at all.
Some call it childish.
If you go to any physics-community with such an idea, you'ld be hitted with some very "serious Laws of Conservation"
Anyways, if there are some serious supressing forces(not the sceptic) here,
we should focus on that particular thread of an concept, because it must be the right finding.
And if somebody here is close to break some "Laws" of physics and we do see such
professional interferencies, we should take it as a good sign.

And BTW, it not neccesary to supress, because inventors with good concepts were killing
themselves or their project by simply going the same way as always.
Finding-> Patent -> Industry/Government = Disáppearance/Sudden Death.


best,
sushi

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Re: Flywheel powered by magnets and gravity? Need ideas.
« Reply #23 on: February 14, 2009, 10:40:54 PM »
Maybe I do HAVE to be naive in order to even think about OverUnity at all.
Some call it childish.
If you go to any physics-community with such an idea, you'ld be hitted with some very "serious Laws of Conservation"
Anyways, if there are some serious supressing forces(not the sceptic) here,
we should focus on that particular thread of an concept, because it must be the right finding.
And if somebody here is close to break some "Laws" of physics and we do see such
professional interferencies, we should take it as a good sign.

And BTW, it not neccesary to supress, because inventors with good concepts were killing
themselves or their project by simply going the same way as always.
Finding-> Patent -> Industry/Government = Disáppearance/Sudden Death.


best,
sushi

Sushi
Your English may not be the best but is certainly good enough to graciously say, "I was right."
Tom, unless you disclose your ideas to this forum, you should expect criticism.  Instead, the criticism has been directed at Sushi who expressed what many of us were thinking.
Tropes

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Re: Flywheel powered by magnets and gravity? Need ideas.
« Reply #24 on: February 15, 2009, 03:05:26 PM »
Sushi
Your English may not be the best but is certainly good enough to graciously say, "I was right."
Tom, unless you disclose your ideas to this forum, you should expect criticism.  Instead, the criticism has been directed at Sushi who expressed what many of us were thinking.
Tropes

Hi Tropes,
Thanks for translating my bad english and Thanks for understanding what i was trying to say.
Its always hard to argue in foreign languages when it comes to some
rhetorical point of philosophical diskussions.

*smile*