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Bob Smith

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8865 on: June 06, 2022, 04:24:13 AM »
JT
CLosed Loop
Zener
Secondary

Thoughts?

AlienGrey

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8866 on: June 06, 2022, 01:33:16 PM »
Are you all serious on this thread ? if not could you possably mark the bits where i should laugh or cry, many thanks

In the mean time here is a link to an energy gain circuit, or what lookes like one to me over on youtube.

>   ENERGÍA FRÍA DEMOSTRACIÓN  < i'm sure you can find it, with your skills.

https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=ENERG%C3%8DA+FR%C3%8DA+DEMOSTRACI%C3%93N&iax=videos&ia=videos&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D4TKsmqWN9ek
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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8867 on: June 06, 2022, 05:09:11 PM »
JT
CLosed Loop
Zener
Secondary

Thoughts?


My thoughs:


JT
HV capacitor
Closed loop
Closed loop
Ground


high voltage is absolutely needed or you kill momentum by resistance/
Energy amplification is what Tesla patented as method of conversion. The base for all his devices

Bob Smith

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8868 on: June 08, 2022, 03:56:14 AM »
Are you all serious on this thread ? if not could you possably mark the bits where i should laugh or cry, many thanks

In the mean time here is a link to an energy gain circuit, or what lookes like one to me over on youtube.

>   ENERGÍA FRÍA DEMOSTRACIÓN  < i'm sure you can find it, with your skills.

https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=ENERG%C3%8DA+FR%C3%8DA+DEMOSTRACI%C3%93N&iax=videos&ia=videos&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D4TKsmqWN9ek
Sil


Thanks for the reply AG
I'm fluent in Spanish, so I was able to understand where he was going with his setup. I think there are some common elements in his setup with what I'm suggesting.
Bob

Bob Smith

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8869 on: June 08, 2022, 04:03:12 AM »

My thoughs:


JT
HV capacitor
Closed loop
Closed loop
Ground


high voltage is absolutely needed or you kill momentum by resistance/
Energy amplification is what Tesla patented as method of conversion. The base for all his devices
Thanks for the reply, Forest
I guess it would take a while to get the capacitor up to full charge with the JT. But once you're there, I can see there would be quite a momentum leaving it.  Kind of reminds me of Don Smith's work with the HV cap to coil(s) and ground.
Regards,
Bob

AlienGrey

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8870 on: June 11, 2022, 02:32:42 PM »
Thanks for the reply, Forest
I guess it would take a while to get the capacitor up to full charge with the JT. But once you're there, I can see there would be quite a momentum leaving it.  Kind of reminds me of Don Smith's work with the HV cap to coil(s) and ground.
Regards,
Bob
Bob
Look Bob some guy who use to frequent these pages named Nelson showed on his youtube pages
how to do what your asking about amplification, just generating high voltage at high current isn't it!
all he did was to generate high voltage at low current and then add a low voltage high current to it.
So as both wave forms coincide.
Can i suggest you look into that trick to exploit.


Sil

NickZ

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8871 on: June 11, 2022, 03:41:34 PM »
   AG:   Get it through your head that Nelson does not have FE on any of his devices. No self running, just efficient use of the energy from the battery. That's all.  Waste all the time you need...that is all we've ever had. Wasted time, and not a single FE device.
So why do you want to continue with this run around, if you really want to get somewhere? You won't find it here, nor will any one else. This thread is as useless as all the rest.

   NickZ


AlienGrey

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8872 on: June 11, 2022, 07:37:08 PM »
Ha, ha, carfuly chosen words by Nelson, if you excelerate electrons use a tesla coil.

Unless you play the game you will never get your device to work

Have you tride removing that iron from inside your grenade and putting

baking foil up its bum the full length but not a shorted turn and tuning it correctly ?

if you dont want to bother your on your own.

Bob Smith

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8873 on: June 13, 2022, 12:48:38 AM »
Bob
Look Bob some guy who use to frequent these pages named Nelson showed on his youtube pages
how to do what your asking about amplification, just generating high voltage at high current isn't it!
all he did was to generate high voltage at low current and then add a low voltage high current to it.
So as both wave forms coincide.
Can i suggest you look into that trick to exploit.
Sil

Thanks Sil!

Bob Smith

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8874 on: February 09, 2023, 10:36:51 PM »

The automatic successive kick started from the small kick is the way to be. ;)

JUST DO IT!!!  :) 
IT SHOULD BE SMALL kick then it kick->KICK
                                                            KICK.  8)

OTITS  ;D

It just struck me, BEMF, not just ringing down.
Hope you're well, Teets.
Bob

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8875 on: February 10, 2023, 03:40:04 PM »
It just struck me, BEMF, not just ringing down.
Hope you're well, Teets.
Bob

Bob,

Think self induced voltage and charges from flyback by collapsing magnetic field.

Edit. This is not a working circuit. It's for basic concept only.

« Last Edit: February 10, 2023, 10:03:46 PM by Cadman »

onepower

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8876 on: February 11, 2023, 05:33:02 PM »
AlienGray

From Nelson Rocha May 30 2020.
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I could tell you that the last replication i did in Germany of this system, was evaluated by two external entities, where one of them reached at a value close to COP 3, but what difference would it make me to promote or speculate about that result to only catch people attention ?
I do not live on external profits or donations , I have my work and I do that by pleasure.

Nelson was a smart guy and knew if he made an outright FE claim the trolls and paid shills would be all over him. Nelson had the reserved attitude of a seasoned FE inventor who gets results unlike some others and there drama.

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ENERGÍA FRÍA DEMOSTRACIÓN  < i'm sure you can find it, with your skills.
https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=ENERG%C3%8DA+FR%C3%8DA+DEMOSTRACI%C3%93N&iax=videos&ia=videos&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D4TKsmqWN9ek

I like this guy, Jose Caltum https://www.youtube.com/@josecaltum/videos. He looks like the classic FE inventor. He's older, he has the look, methodical tone of voice, plaid shirt with bonus sweater, messy bench but not too messy-- just right. Look at all the stuff in the background and he probably has many projects on the go. More important he's old school concentrating on only the basics to prove an effect. No more, no less than required moving forward in a methodical manner. Looks like he has 7 years of video's but probably decades of time spent at the bench.

Based on his prior video's I would say there's a very good chance he's onto something.

AC






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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8877 on: July 29, 2023, 11:56:12 AM »
Hi folks,

I've spent more time than I care to remember going over this thread. I've also gone through all of Tito's posts scattered over various other threads and collated them in chronological order. I've attached this file to my message, just in case it's helpful to anyone. A lot of people thought he was being a master LARPer or spreading BS and being deliberately obtuse, but I saw through that and had a gut feeling that the tips he had cryptically shared all seemed to have some element of the truth about them

I then thought long and hard about each one of them to see how they might help in the quest for overunity.

This is one of the tips where he suggests there might be some gain when charging caps in parallel and discharging them sequentially (note: not in series).

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a parallel then switch to serie connection makes an amplification then a sudden discharge into a big thick wire makes a strong magnetic field.Now did you get something amazing in there?

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a matter of series and parallel connection will solve your problem ok its an elementary technique

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If I recall from memory your text, it was: you start out from a 12V battery and charge up say 10 capacitors in parallel, then you discharge the 10 capacitors  in series.  And you wrote the effect is a 'surprise' or something similar.

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for example we have 12v bat and three capacitor,  you charge them in parallel then discharge them in series is a very big difference isn't it. :) ;) 8)

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can we not charge in an instant in parallel more than 2 caps?, then discharge it very very fast in a separate series connection in a (cascade coil)   and produce lots of energy?. is that very hard to make buddy?, and that is very obvious that we can produce lots of excess of energy isn't it?.do you know the reason why very very fast?. now, that is overkill.  :D

I put together this infographic to explain what I'm thinking.

(https://i.ibb.co/7p15b0F/Capacitor-charge-and-discharge-chart-with-method-to-extract-max-power.png)

Basically, if you charge caps in parallel then this obviously requires enough energy to charge them from 0 to 99.9%. If you then take, say, 10 caps and loop through them one by one, discharging for an amount of time equating to roughly 0.1t (remember t=RC), then in theory the cap will only lose a small amount of charge but the amount of power discharged will be maximum (max volts & max amps). At the output you will end up with DC with a spikey ripple.

One way that I can think of how this can be achieved is to have a PWM output from an Arduino which is a single pulse with configurable duty cycle and frequency. This pulse goes into a Johnson Decade Counter (decoded) which has 10 individual outputs. The logic input of a MOSFET gate driver would be connected to each output, and you'd then have the gate driver controlling a MOSFET. So you'd have 10 gate drivers and 10 MOSFETs. The decade counter would iterate over each output, triggering each one in sequence. At the end of the sequence it would repeat ad infinitum. The MOSFET would discharge a capacitor into the primary of an output transformer. The output of the secondary would be rectified using a full wave bridge rectifier, smoothed with a DC cap and then that would be your output. You could then invert it using MOSFETs or IGBTs etc. if you wanted AC output.

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8878 on: July 29, 2023, 12:45:19 PM »
Here's a simulation of what I described above: https://tinyurl.com/26z5syqm

fuzzb3k

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8879 on: July 29, 2023, 01:03:28 PM »
Another thing that I looked into was the LM78xx series voltage regulators, following Tito's tips on this subject matter.

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see if those words are coil connected to an antenna of different frqs then we have lots of energy. 7805 is really good in current amplification isn't it?

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did you not yet study about 7805-24 chips, on how to amplify current using this chips?.

And now the real secret i am is hiding is the technique of amplifying at the same time the current and voltage ok! at least i am saying it to all of you ok! understand?  ;D

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one thing more i used 78XX sometimes as amplifier also.  ;)

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78xx is really a good source of current.  ;)

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Ya, i think i just made an improvement? or a variation in ossie's design by eliminating one switch, and added up some secondaries in ossie's series coils then connecting them parallel to add more extra juice. simple but effective.hmmmm  ;D of course we can add a lot of transistors in 7812  setup as current amplifier in the secondaries hmmmmmmm!.

I took a look at the spec. sheets and also searched for any unusual applications of these devices. The series includes the following models: LM7805 (5V), LM7806 (6V), LM7809 (9V), LM7812 (12V), LM7815 (15V), LM7824 (24V).

Absolute Maximum Input Voltage: 35V

Recommended Operating Conditions
-Input Voltage: Minimum 7V, Maximum 25V
-Output Current: 1.5A

The IC has 3 pins: input, ground & output. Input should be between output +2V and 35V. Output is ground +5V (LM7805) to ground +24V (LM7824).

Output current equals input current when the IC is cooled sufficiently. If it overheats then the output current will drop.

You can also configure them as constant current sources.

Tito's tips suggest that they can be used as current amplifiers in some fashion. I guess this will be either using them as constant current sources or to increase the voltage by biasing the ground to be something other than 0V, so that the output voltage is increased compared to 0V ground. There should also be some sort of recursive arrangement to boost current and/or voltage and then loop back round so that they are increased incrementally over several cycles.

I'm still mulling over the exact arrangement that might be useful.