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Offline nix85

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8820 on: June 01, 2021, 04:58:12 PM »

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8821 on: June 01, 2021, 05:54:58 PM »
Lanca if you got got a comment on parallel RLC current amplification
post it in my thread, not here

https://overunity.com/18878/reactive-current-parallel-rcl


Okay !  :)


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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8822 on: June 01, 2021, 06:07:36 PM »

What I was thinking about is not  ferrite but ferrofluid in glass capsule and windings around it in presence of the bar magnets from the both ends.? You can see in your  own eyes the response of it.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrofluid

For  ? F.e. :
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/mosaics?CC=US&NR=2848748A&KC=A&FT=D&ND=3&date=19580826&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP


Instead ferrit/ferro copper ?


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19970417&CC=DE&NR=19539391A1&KC=A1


http://www.rexresearch.com/callahan/callahan.htm  ::)  http://www.rexresearch.com/callahan/rock%20dust%20_%20paramagnetism.pdf


ferromagnetism,di-a-magnetism,paramagnetism
https://de.scribd.com/presentation/438768692/magnetic-properties-pptx

Hmm,ferrofluid or ferromagnetic fluid ?


ferro-/ferrit particle in oil


room temperature liquid metal f.e. mercury


specific melt temperature liquid metal ?


water,as half-metal ?


E.M.D. and E.H.D. and M.H.D.


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=70&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19860625&CC=ZA&NR=848762B&KC=B


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=63&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19840125&CC=EP&NR=0098897A2&KC=A2




I did by the Branover search seeing this ,but did not read the content,will do it later ! Probably interestant !


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=64&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20090603&CC=CN&NR=101449446A&KC=A

First reaction : http://www.rexresearch.com/dardikcf/superwave.htm


           and combination :


+ https://overunity.com/18815/has-anyone-here-constructed-an-overunity-system-that-works/285/  #294


Newton (and Goethe) light spectrum science) +     A+K-ode   to transistor and "Superwave" :


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?submitted=true&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC&ST=advanced&TI=&AB=&PN=&AP=&PR=&PD=&PA=paul+heinrich+marzahn&IN=&CPC=&IC=&Submit=Search




Sincere


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p.s.: who the  heck you are man?  Ein Mensch der deutsch denkt,ALT-DEUTSCH,mit allen Hoehen und Tiefen

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8822 on: June 01, 2021, 06:07:36 PM »
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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8823 on: June 01, 2021, 06:38:46 PM »
What I was thinking about is not  ferrite but ferrofluid in glass capsule and windings around it in presence of the bar magnets from the both ends.? You can see in your  own eyes the response of it.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferroflui


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LancaIV, this thing you posted about bar magnets on the sides of a metal bar, is there any other metal readily available other than metglass that shows any sign of amplification in that orientation? For me, I can't say if I know of any, yet.

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8824 on: June 01, 2021, 06:43:03 PM »

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8825 on: June 01, 2021, 06:47:53 PM »
LancaIV, this thing you posted about bar magnets on the sides of a metal bar, is there any other metal readily available other than metglass that shows any sign of amplification in that orientation? For me, I can't say if I know of any, yet.


This  sentences are from member Wesley/stivep his poste #8815 !


I will think about Your question and will then give answer !


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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8826 on: June 01, 2021, 07:26:44 PM »
You need to understand that there is no any real  amplification existing anywhere if energy  that is used  for "amplification" is not present.
-signal amplification  uses more energy that  summary energy of the signal and  its amplified level.
-horn is not amplifying the gramophone sound but is just sending  it in one direction and that what looks like amplification
 is just the difference between coherent isotropic and directed anisotropic directional  effect.
 the same is with  you  talking to the pipe  and listener listening from the other end of it.
 However  resonance matters.
http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/2001-07/996421645.Ph.r.html
https://www.quora.com/How-does-a-cone-amplify-sound

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For  unconvinced  there is set of questions:
how does sound get amplified when passed through a cone?
where does the extra energy come from?
What about hollow objects like a box guitar?
how do they amplify sound?
http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/2001-07/996421645.Ph.q.html

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So in any possible classical mechanic or quantum mechanic phenomena the effect is always
smaller than summary amount of energy used  to achieve it.
Directional antenna Yagi having in dB gain of 15 dB  is not gaining anything at all.
It is just taking the same energy from Tx  that could be connected to  e.g omnidirectional  antenna.
The difference  between the two is that:
-YAGI SENDS THIS ENERGY in one direction only.
- omnidirectional antenna  sends 1/360ties of Tx energy in the same  direction.

Yes you gain in dollars walking home  instead of  taking taxi,
but you losing on energy of your body.

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So why we are talking about Free Energy?
Because we don't care who pays for that energy  as long as we get  some of it for free.
So any device  and every device must  use  its energy to couple  to someone-else energy.
example is a pipe with water.
if that pipe is connected to the river and your energy is just used to open the valve  than you have Kapanadze device.
In energy extraction from Schumann waveguide nature pays for energy and its delivery  and you are only  the "valve opener"
 
So looking for  energy amplification  you need to know that none  of it  exist in net value.
it is not important if you use metaglass or anything else.




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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8827 on: June 01, 2021, 07:37:48 PM »
Excuse-moi, "energy livre ":      free Voltage/tension


                                              free Voltage-h + free Amperage-h = VAh




                                              syntax !


                                              like the often power instead energy or vice-versa termination use error !


Salute


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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8828 on: June 01, 2021, 08:38:25 PM »
You need to understand that there is no any real  amplification existing anywhere if energy  that is used  for "amplification" is not present.
-signal amplification  uses more energy that  summary energy of the signal and  its amplified level....

 
So looking for  energy amplification  you need to know that none  of it  exist in net value.
it is not important if you use metaglass or anything else.




Wesley
Yeah, I still see it this way. There are stored energies which we may term as artificial, and there are natural energies which we see as abundant. The artificial or stored energies has lifetime, it has expiring date. I still believe that metglas, when used in an amplification mode has expiring date, it only depends how long.
 I always have this weird feeling when I'm trying to build an earth based free energy machine, as if the oil companies will come after me. Was my mind playing games with me. When I try to build the ones that don't use the ground for amplification, I feel better.

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8829 on: June 01, 2021, 09:06:14 PM »
Leely,this all makes part from appropriate R&D about periodic/permanent moving devices and their maintenance :
coils are given 80 000 hours work life( 1 year = 8766 hours !)
permanent magnets (without extrem demagnitization cases like abnormal heat/Barkhausen et cet.):
by Arpad Boday to read up to "1000 years" RE-magnets
bears : 10v6 revolutions,SKF reference  ( seems much but by 3000/6000 RPM and 1 year = 8766x60 RM if permanent "relativ" )

Transformer core : rust risc

free energy is never technical meaned as " eternal converting/generating device/machine " !
As decay sources these devices exist ! Thermoelectric battery/generator


And we have to plan with inexhaustable materials and production capacity and the people their average skills to construct,to montage together or to repair and changing friction parts without commercial on-profit service !
For many actually it is in rural zones a day-by-day problem to get for conventional machines spare parts,when the next greater city with electric devices repair shop is 50/100 and more Kms away and no/bad traffic routes !

And does new production from older models exist ? 3D reprint ?
 How work the old car owner in Kuba to organize spare parts for 30' 40' 50' models  !?

For the Upper 10 000 to build the OU-machine is not a need,for the nether billions an simple OU-machine the solution for water getting ( pump),light,fridge/freezer as most important application !

But they can also live with non-em-OU technologie ! Pure mechanical thermo-cryo-dynamic cycle !
Solar freezer( zeolith or active carbon),light pipe( bottle),hydro-ram-pump, ......


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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8830 on: September 22, 2021, 05:20:12 PM »
Parametric resonance as an energy amplifier.

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8831 on: September 22, 2021, 09:50:26 PM »
1. Resonaces can combine in either a destructive or an additive manner, or, they can
combine, alternating, over time, between a destructive or an additive manner of
combining.

             Given that the frequency, speed, and amplitude of two waves are identical.

When two waves arrive at a same location, all or some of, their wave peaks and wave troughs
may be aligned. 

When a wave peak of one wave, is perfectly aligned with a wave trough of the other wave,
the waves cancel each other. 
                             Examples:
          Two persons whip a jump rope, each from the opposite end of the rope. 
          When a wave sent down the rope encounters a wave from the other end,
  A.  If a trough encounters a peak the rope falls to the ground.
  B.  If either, two peaks or two troughs meat, the rope motion expands.  Either toward
        the ground or away from it.

2. Resonaces can be present within a medium and have what is essentially
no interaction.
                             Examples:
   A. Turning up brightness of the light in a theater, neither measurably diminishes nor
increases the loudness of the sounds coming from the stage.
   B. Changing the color of the light in a theater, neither measurably raises nor lowers
the pitch of the sounds coming from the stage.

3. A given frequency can interact with a given body to cause other frequencies to
emerge from that body.
                             Example:
    A. infra red light frequency can be absorbed into an object and transform into the
frequencies at which molecules can resonate (infra red energy becomes kinetic / heat energy).
... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
Wave resonations (echos), within a body can combine with each other (constructively and or
destructively).
Wave resonations (echos) within a body can combine with additional waves entering that body
(constructively and or destructively).

When wave troughs of two different frequencies combine, a third frequency emerges at
a lower frequency than either of the two original frequencies.  That third frequency can
itself, sometimes resonate (echo) within that body.

Complexes of  frequency interactions can combine to cause, low frequency but very
large peak and trough waves.  The size of these waves can match / harmonize / resonate
in a size (peaks and troughs, amplitude) which we would recognize as / see as physical motions.

That high amplitude low frequency wave may again be harmonic to some aspect or scale of the
body they are interacting within (echo).

Bridge and building collapses can occur. But there is no more energy present than was put in.
It seem to me that there is no excess of energy available from resonant phenomena itself,
nor from "energy amplification".

4.  But some additional and/or other form of energy might be shaken out of a body due to
resonance. 
                      Example:
   4 A. Some specific chemical reactions, like burning, require energy input as a frequency
which we recognize as heat, before they will occur. 

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8832 on: September 22, 2021, 10:20:34 PM »
I guess this is a good place to remind energy of a wave (any wave) is amplitude squared, when you add two same waves together amplitude becomes double, guess what happens to energy.

For more “Violation of the Law of Energy Conservation in Wave Fields“ by Janos Vajda.

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8833 on: September 23, 2021, 01:13:55 AM »
The energy of a mechanical wave depends on both, its amplitude and its frequency.

If we consider the kinetic energy contained in one wave length (peak to peak),
(of a given amplitude) as a discrete packet of energy, a higher frequency wave will
deliver more of these packets per unit of time than a lower frequency wave (of that
same given amplitude). Each packet contains the same amount of energy but more
power is present (average energy per unit of time)
                      but also
If we consider the kinetic energy contained in one wave length of a given amplitude
as a discrete packet of energy, a higher amplitude wave will deliver more energy per
unit of time than a lower amplitude wave of the same frequency.

The average rate of energy transfer in mechanical waves is proportional to either
the square of the amplitude,    or    the square of the frequency.
... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
If two mechanical waves have equal amplitudes, but one wave has a frequency of twice the
frequency of the other wave, the higher frequency wave can transfer energy four times greater,
in a given interval of time, than the lower frequency wave can.
                          and...
If two mechanical waves have equal frequencies, but one wave has an amplitude of twice the
amplitude of the other, the higher amplitude wave can transfer energy four times greater,
in a given interval of time, than the lower amplitude wave can.

                         Unless...
One simultaneously decreases the other factor by one half.

Double the frequency but cut in half the amplitude, or, double the amplitude and cut
the frequency in half.

                      But keep in mind that,  otherwise ....
It requires 4 times the energy INPUT to create a wave of double the amplitude,
if the frequency remains the same.
                                  and
It requires 4 times the energy INPUT to create a wave of double the frequency,
if the amplitude remains the same.
... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
Much of the above, applies only to mechanical waves and not to electromagnetic
forms of energy.

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8834 on: September 23, 2021, 03:09:00 AM »
Of course higher the frequency higher the energy, this is perfectly assumed, photon energy being frequency times Planck constant.

Point being that two waves of any same frequency when superimposed will produce a wave of x4 the energy content, that is, x2 the overall energy of the two waves combined.

For example if 2 waves have amplitudes of 2 and each energy of 4, when superimposed amplitude of the new wave is 4 and energy is 16.

This has already been discussed here in 2016.

https://overunity.com/16698/free-energy-from-electromagnetic-wave-fields/

And back in 2007.

https://overunity.com/3068/the-return-of-the-hungarian-free-energy-from-wave-fields/#.V3P-dU-uAtU

 

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