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WhatIsIt · « **Reply #8745 on:** July 26, 2020, 10:30:46 PM »

OK,

But it is good way to keep you talking,
I needed you to post so I can analyze it.

Are you sure that you dont know Chris?

triangle · « **Reply #8746 on:** July 26, 2020, 11:09:23 PM »

Quote from: WhatIsIt on July 26, 2020, 10:30:46 PM

OK,

But it is good way to keep you talking,
I needed you to post so I can analyze it.

Are you sure that you dont know Chris?

Good luck with that my child!

onepower · « **Reply #8747 on:** July 28, 2020, 08:06:45 AM »

Triangle

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I dont mind your taughts what is and what not.
So please dont change the subject.
Please share ereference what you have done for the world!
This forum is a discussion forum and open source.
Let us not go off Topic.

Off topic... I was not aware that any here were ever on it?.

One could conclude, given the narrative, that the "topic" would seem to be the last thing on anyone's mind. However it begs the question, if anyone was on topic and sharing real knowledge concerning FE then I suspect some progress would be made however none would seem to be present. Thus in my opinion the true motive by some must be to inhibit progress and turn everything into a proverbial pissing contest, if you will. Not that I do not find all this entertaining in the same way I find a dog shitting on a carpet somewhat entertaining... so long as the carpet is not mine.

Behold the spectacle, the Colosseum, where primates pummel and bloody there own kind in sport for the crowd. All hail the crowd, all hail the mob, for there is righteousness in numbers...

Regards

lancaIV · « **Reply #8748 on:** July 28, 2020, 03:03:44 PM »

Quote from: lancaIV on July 21, 2020, 10:51:57 AM

How to treat theoretical defined terms and numbers !?

Force,Energy,Power
Here in internal combustion engine/electric drive comparison

When 136 ic hp are equivalent 12,5 KW electric motor

http://www.evalbum.com/motor
Gas engines are rated at their peak hp, electric motors are rated at their continuous hp. The peak hp of an electric motor is usually 8 to 10 times its continuous rating.

and instead a. railway car 100 to 140 ic hp George Constantinescu changed to 10 ic hp + torque converter/ amplifier

b. street car 45 hp to 10 hp + torque converter/amplifier

a "peoples car " or in German : VOLKSWAGEN
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Constantinescu
http://www.rexresearch.com/constantinesco2/constantinesco.htm
http://www.rexresearch.com/constran/1constran.htm

His idea was to produce a low cost one hundred guinea "peoples' car'' which would travel 100 miles on one gallon of petrol at the most commonly used road speeds of 30 to 40 miles per hour.

George first successfully tested a Torque Converter in a car in May l 923, using an experimental model that had been built only for bench tests. He obtained an old Sheffield Simplex chassis and replaced the big 45 hp engine with a 10 hp "light car'' Singer engine, and built a platform on the chassis. This car was driven around the outskirts of London loaded with 10 people, including the inventor at the wheel, fig. 21, and later towed a lorry up a steep hill. As a further demonstration of the capabilities of the car, six inch wooden blocks were placed in front of the wheels. When the accelerator was depressed the car climbed over the blocks smoothly and without hesitation, to the astonishment of the bystanders. This test was merely to demonstrate the possibilities of the Torque Converter, because even a 10 hp engine was much larger than necessary for the production car envisaged.

http://www.rexresearch.com/constran/fig25.jpg

http://www.rexresearch.com/constran/fig26.jpg

Testing, development and manufacture was carried out at the former Malaxa Ironworks of Bucharest during the 1930s. Initially, successful tests were carried out with a 10 hp engine and converter mounted in a 10 tonne railcar. These results were very encouraging considering that similar cars in other countries were using 100 to 140 hp engines. The next stage was the establishment of production lines and special machine tools for the building of 30 tonne passenger railcars with 60 seats. These were propelled by two engines of 20 hp each mounted under the chassis. These railcars ran without trouble at about 40 mph, a performance which appeared to be quite suitable for conditions in Romania at the time. Looking to the future more power and faster speeds would be required on main lines as well as branch lines to meet the needs of rapidly growing industry and infrastructure in all countries. Bearing this in mind, George made a survey of requirements and solutions proposed in several other countries, including Germany, Britain and the United States.

how many rated KW need the electric motor coupled with the G.C. torque converter/amplifier ?

a. ( 10 hp/136 hp) x 12,5 KW : ?

b. ( 10 hp/ 45 hp) x 12,5 KW : ?

LESS THAN a. 1 KW ELECTRIC MOTOR and

b. 2,8 KW ELECTRIC MOTOR !

( by pure calculation !)

The electric consume by high permanent magnets torque motor ?

An example : 2,8 KW nominal / 0,7 ( for 70% electro magnet motor efficiency) ~ 4 KWh consume per hour

4 KWh x 0,3 ( Ogino Sanshiro basic factor electric/permanent magnet motor 70% savings) ~ 1,2 KWh per hour

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/description?CC=US&NR=2002175580A1&KC=A1&FT=D&ND=3&date=20021128&DB=EPODOC&locale=en_EP

[0059] As a result of comparison between the structure according to the present invention and the structure as a comparison example comprising the electromagnet element 17 and the attraction member 57 without the provision of the permanent magnet element 19, it has been found that the electrical energy (W) required for the structure of the present invention is less than one-third through one-fourth of that which is required for the comparison example having no permanent magnet element 19 when the attractive force of each of the working surfaces is the same between the two.

[0060] Further, when we suppose a reluctance motor to which the structure of the above-described comparison example is applied, the energy conversion efficiency thereof will be about 30%. However, if a reluctance motor utilizing the structure of the present invention requires an electrical energy of less than 30% as compared to the structure of the comparison example, an output exceeding the electrical input can be estimated and this fact shows that the energy of the permanent magnet element is being converted into a dynamic energy corresponding thereto.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X58oEF1dBqg https://web.archive.org/web/20090925065936/http://www.loremo.com/

When the Loremo concept car was calculated with a 20 hp ic engine ( eco version ),how many electric motor KWs will be need with G.C. torque converter coupling ?

When 45 hp ic engine was changed to 10 hp ic engine then 20 hp would become changed to 4,5 hp ic engine !
4,5 hp ic engine equates ? KW permanent magnet torque electric motor ?

When we take the austinev.org comparison
peak to peak 136 hp ic ~ 12,5 KW electric

(4,5 hp /136 hp ) x 12,5 KW
~ 0,42 KW Loremo electric drive + G.C. torque converter / amplifier

When we see the Loremo we see the VW XL1 and the Amory Lovins HYPERCAR

https://youtu.be/ZiA4cpJb0uw

0:56 " ..... only 0,3% ..... "

when 6 liter gasoline per 100 Kilometers equates 60 000 Wh then represents 0,3% : 180 Wh per 100 Kilometers

easy to renew the portable power storage during the drive : brake recuperation ,solar,......

20 hp ic were from these " bestsellers" the engines their power : Morris Mini,2CV,Fiat 500

Car drive energy renewable source :

With 45% efficiency 1 sqm photo-thermo voltaic energy conversion gives by full sunshine 600 Wh !
Reference : Sono- motor and Novasolix
https://pv-magazine-usa.com/2018/11/23/all-i-want-for-christmas-is-a-90-efficient-solar-panel/

Force,Power,Energy : N.Tesla and Toribio Bellocq and George Constantinescu : sonic energy

In the 24/365 cities and their suburbs street and highways controled future the "autonomous car,driver-free" does not need more rated power ,the G.Constantinescu car concept average street velocity equates nearly 100% the german traffic driver average velocity : 56 Km-h or 35 (land) miles per hour

His idea ( G.C.)was to produce a low cost one hundred guinea "peoples' car'' which would travel 100 miles on one gallon of petrol at the most commonly used road speeds of 30 to 40 miles per hour.

Average car velocity in german innercities : +- 11 up to 14 miles per hour !
https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/994676/umfrage/innerstaedtische-durchschnittsgeschwindigkeit-im-autoverkehr-in-deutschen-staedten/

https://www.adac.de/_mmm/pdf/statistik_mobilitaet_in_deutschland_0111_46603.pdf

page 11 : 42,2 Km per hour car "fast" velocity ! 26,2 mph !

Probably taking an old "Lotus Elise" https://auto.howstuffworks.com/lotus-elise3.htm ,
like Tesla Motor Inc. did : Lotus Elise chassis = Tesla Roadster chassis,
taking away the conventional engine parts and introduce the 5 KW permanent magnet motor and G.C. torque converter

Comparison : G.Constantinescu electric motor + torque converter with

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20001020&CC=FR&NR=2792258A1&KC=A1

instead 50 hp engine Porquer differential + 4 x 500 W electric motors

G.Constantinesu (10/45) x 50 = 11,2 hp ic engine + torque converter

(11,2/8) ic to electric = 1,4 KW electric motor + torque converter

BTW: Jesus has a plan ? Yes,clearly !

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/Jorge_Jesus.jpg
After Flamengo de Rio de Janeiro he will be the new coach from Benfica Lisbon !

Both sites have :
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/87/Cristo_Redentor_-_Rio_de_Janeiro%2C_Brasil.jpg/1200px-Cristo_Redentor_-_Rio_de_Janeiro%2C_Brasil.jpg

https://lissabon.sehenswuerdigkeiten-online.de/sehenswuerdigkeiten/img/crisrei2m.jpg

1988 : Munich,M.A.N. Citybus 200 hp Diesel-gasoil - engine drive
Magnet-Motor ,Starnberg ( an A.E.G. - subcompany) introduced a new drive concept :
Electric flywheel + 20 hp gasoil-engine conversion

When an 136 hp internal combustion engine equates a 12,5 KW nominal electric motor drive :

Electric flywheel + ? KW nominal electric motor drive ?

( 12,5/136) x 20 KW gasoil engine ~ 1,84 KW e-motor ?
Catalan electric drive,consume ?

Inventor : Kurt Fritzsche DE4332378
What has to be the nominal electric power rating for the gasoline engine change to electric ?

When we work with "energy or power or work or force" numbers we have to differ between theoretical comparison
related Watt-peak and Watt-nominal and Watt-average !
Between "rotating KW" and " linear KW",between "DC KW and AC KW" !

When we study the suburban and innercity traffic velocities in Europe = ≤ 30 miles per hour and introduce the " autonomous = driver-free traffic" in future we can calculate with 1 KW nominal electric drive and 1 Wh per Kilometer electricity consume !
This easy recaptureable by solartect/or photovoltaic dots coating , brake energy recuperation or in situ battery generator set !

The Tesla Motor car with 68 Wh per Kilometer consume actually far away from future standart !
The battery standart : Lithium(carbon)-Titan with 10000 recharge cycles for the future enough !
Optimization : to 500 Wh per Kg : AMPCERA

When the 4x 500 Watt electric motors gear drive from the french inventor Michel Porquer equates a 50 hp internal combustion engine car drive and the german low resistance car Loremo was planned with a 20 hp ic engine then
for an electric Loremo 20/50 = 0,4 the Porquer rating seems enough !

1 KW electric nominal power !

Jeg · « **Reply #8749 on:** August 03, 2020, 10:30:09 AM »

Hi Tito
I hope you are fine

You have many times stated that a zener diode is necessary in your setups as for a control. I understand that we need it across the output capacitor to prevent it from overcharging. Do you find it a good idea to add a zener diode in series with the kicker coil's diode so to prevent any current flow from battery to the output capacitor?

Regards
Jeg

Magluvin · « **Reply #8750 on:** August 04, 2020, 03:20:16 AM »

Quote from: Jeg on August 03, 2020, 10:30:09 AM

Hi Tito
I hope you are fine

You have many times stated that a zener diode is necessary in your setups as for a control. I understand that we need it across the output capacitor to prevent it from overcharging. Do you find it a good idea to add a zener diode in series with the kicker coil's diode so to prevent any current flow from battery to the output capacitor?

Regards
Jeg

Not sure he meant it for that. Never really gave the reason for use as i remember, though I may have missed it. I always thought 1 of 2 things. Either used to not let the cap go below a determined voltage(cutoff)("never kill the dipole"), or used as a sort of solid state spark gap of sorts, low voltage. Told me once in a pm that they can handled a lot of current. In his very first diagram of his circuit that was suppose to be the way of Steven Mark, he stated not to forget the zener diode, of which I imagine it is the one next to the resistor with the relay contacts.

If it were to not let the cap go above a predetermined voltage, Id think it to be a very high voltage zener than what we are used to, but he said at least 3v zener, so. He uses the term avalanche a lot. maybe these are what he is implying...

http://www.highvoltageconnection.com/articles/avalanche-diodes.htm

Mags

Jeg · « **Reply #8751 on:** August 04, 2020, 10:16:12 AM »

Quote from: Magluvin on August 04, 2020, 03:20:16 AM

If it were to not let the cap go above a predetermined voltage, Id think it to be a very high voltage zener than what we are used to, but he said at least 3v zener, so. He uses the term avalanche a lot. maybe these are what he is implying...

Hi Mags
By thinking simple, if i were to charge (with kickback spikes) two caps at the source voltage so to connect them in series and return some energy back to the source then a zener is perfect for that. Tito repeated many times that zener is for control, or else...boom! I just wonder if he also tried a zener so to block the source current from flowing in to the output caps. By this, only the kickback voltage passes and nothing else.

Regards
Jeg

onepower · « **Reply #8752 on:** August 04, 2020, 06:24:25 PM »

Mags

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Not sure he meant it for that. Never really gave the reason for use as i remember, though I may have missed it. I always thought 1 of 2 things. Either used to not let the cap go below a determined voltage(cutoff)("never kill the dipole"), or used as a sort of solid state spark gap of sorts, low voltage. Told me once in a pm that they can handled a lot of current. In his very first diagram of his circuit that was suppose to be the way of Steven Mark, he stated not to forget the zener diode, of which I imagine it is the one next to the resistor with the relay contacts.

It's kind of funny that everyone including most supposed experts never could figure out the diode paradox. You see in many FE devices we see diodes which appear to be connected backwards so of course most assume the builder is incompetent. Some like myself routinely use diodes connected back to back and most assume it's a mistake. However nothing could be further from the truth and it is based on expertise not incompetence.

Now suppose we want a low voltage input to produce a HV output. We could use a transformer or coil with a very long conductor or we could use a few turns of wire, the inductive discharge and a reversed diode to ensure only HV may pass. The reverse theshold or break down voltage of the diode now becomes a HV regulator of sorts. If we only want HV to pass and not reverse then we use two diodes connected back to back.

In one case we can stagger the break down theshold to produce a HV regulator/oscillator. Here we use two diodes back to back with different break down voltages. We use one as a high voltage regulator and the other as a negative resistance oscillator. In another case we can use one reversed diode as a HV regulator and a neon bulb like a LV NE2 and a capacitor as a reverse current oscillator section. In another case we can use a reversed diode/capacitor on the front end as a current limiter/oscillator which only allows HV impulses to pass at a given frequency or period. We are limited only by our imagination and what I just explained was not learned from a book but experience at the bench.

In fact we can replace any number of inefficient transformer/converter or LC sections with a few simple components to achieve the same result. What seems to throw many for a loop is that they have no imagination and know only what they were taught. They are not inventors nor are they experimenters who are always finding new and more creative ways of doing things.

So the next time people see any component which seems out of place they should question it rather than dismiss it, question everything... that is the way.

Regards

onepower · « **Reply #8753 on:** August 05, 2020, 05:13:40 PM »

To expand on my last post, why add a reversed diode or back to back diodes to a circuit?.

Adding this new component relates to what energy is, all energy is kinetic on every level and the more motion something has the more energy it has. Thus at the very least we are trying to conserve the motion of something and best case increase it's motion. So instead of forcing a large current down a conductor which then produces secondary forces such as self-induction and resistance which inhibit it's motion we should break up the current into smaller pieces. Instead of using a low voltage high current we transform the current into high voltage impulses.

So we add back to back diodes to a coil output, we charge the coil with a current then discharge the coil through the diodes which only allows high voltage impulses to pass and not reverse. In this way we have filtered the output by only allowing the most efficient form of energy to pass. We do this because a low voltage DC current invokes great losses where a high voltage impulse does not.

If we add a capacitor across the coil linked to the output the output will oscillate. The coil discharges charging the capacitor and when the voltage exceeds the diode breakdown voltage an impulse passes partially discharging the capacitor. Then the capacitor recharges, the voltage rises again, the threshold is exceeded and another impulse is produced. In this way we can produce high voltage impulses with no mosfet's, transistor's or external electronic oscillators.

So why do we want high voltage impulses?. First, the HV impulses have almost no losses as they move along a conductor and second the impulses can induce forces in other conductors where a continuous current cannot. In this respect we are concerned with energy, the more something or the things around it move the more energy they have, all energy is motion on every level.

Understand, the form of energy we generally use as low voltage continuous currents is the least efficient method of transferring or utilizing energy. Nature does not use them because it wouldn't work, little energy would move anywhere and nothing would happen. So we should comprehend and copy nature if we want better results, different results than we normally get. As Tesla said, HV impulses are the future not AC or DC but high voltage impulses.

Regards

Jeg · « **Reply #8754 on:** August 05, 2020, 06:37:50 PM »

Onepower
The most comprehensive posts i have read since a lot time.

Much appreciated
Jeg

seychelles · « **Reply #8755 on:** August 05, 2020, 08:16:05 PM »

maybe this might come in handy

elanimus · « **Reply #8756 on:** August 05, 2020, 11:16:51 PM »

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on July 21, 2020, 06:18:01 AM

WHAT!!!
You don't know the great story plan of Jesus also. See you
Don't read the Bible also. Oh boy
I'm tired.
What's wrong with me, somebody help me
Please. $:-\$

Hi Tito

Don't let all the brainwashed atheists disturb your peace. From now on, i will help with your arguments with them so that you continue your free energy researches in peace.

But anyway, most of the argument is caused by lack of philosophical inquiry by the so-called atheists. They were not properly taught about fundamental spiritual truths, they become confused in the interpretations of the bible(or other religion) and step away from it only to be entangled in a modern mindless religion far worse than ancient ones. God is simply the source, the unlimited, the arche, the holy spirit(ratio), the logos, the manifestation, the unknown etc.. world's religion just tell these things in stories and symbolos that are imo better than **godless** mainstream science and philosophy.

Keep up the great work truth seekers!
I will be here watching and will soon join your divine pursuit fully

onepower · « **Reply #8757 on:** August 06, 2020, 10:24:14 PM »

Elanimus

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Don't let all the brainwashed atheists disturb your peace. From now on, i will help with your arguments with them so that you continue your free energy researches in peace.

Brainwashed you say?, the Atheists don't believe in imaginary things they cannot prove and have never seen. In fact almost all of the most vile, cruel and destructing things mankind has inflicted upon others was done in the name of theism. There is also the fact you have no argument because you have no proof to substantiate your claim. In my opinion were looking for the truth not more baseless claims.

I edited my post because it was off topic.

Regards

WhatIsIt · « **Reply #8758 on:** August 07, 2020, 01:00:55 PM »

Elanimus,

Welcome to this forum.
If you wanna help Tito, you dont have to post here on this forum.
Contact him, go to his home and help him.

Tito can come back when ever he wants.
Problem was that he pull around members for 10 years,
while he was creating his own religion and church here.

For your informations atheists dont exists, but you need brain to conclude that.

You believe in God, but you never saw him in person.

Scientists believe in Corona virus, but they never saw it in person or been in same room with virus.

In both cases you have believers.

So seat back and rethink about your attitude.
Tito was never endangered, he just push wrong things in wrong place.

If you two wanna create your church and followers, go to some another site dedicated to that.

onepower · « **Reply #8759 on:** August 07, 2020, 04:35:56 PM »

Whatisit

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For your informations atheists dont exists, but you need brain to conclude that.
You believe in God, but you never saw him in person.
Scientists believe in Corona virus, but they never saw it in person or been in same room with virus.
In both cases you have believers.

Ah, the tu quoque or appeal to hypocrisy fallacy, well played.
Below is a picture of the Corona virus taken by scientists, found here with many others https://www.cdc.gov/media/subtopic/images.htm, so in fact they have seen it.

As well, an Atheist is a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of gods. Many theists like to peddle the hypocrisy fallacy by claiming Atheism is also a belief like theism however it is not, it is a lack of belief therefore we do exist, lol.

However I get it and when one lives in an imaginary world where beliefs dictate reality and not facts it would be hard to imagine not having beliefs. Not unlike how a long term alcoholic might find it hard imagining what being sober feels like. They become trapped in abnormal habitual behavior to the extent that they have no comprehension of what normal or reality looks like. As such we should be very careful about what we believe and why... we should question everything.

In my opinion this is part of the reason why many like myself can understand FE because we are willing to accept the natural world and the facts we know for what they are in reality. I simply have no need for beliefs or imaginary things and it's enough to understand the natural world as it is. I would suggest spending more time outdoors away from other people to cleanse your mind. Many become so immersed in society with all it's false beliefs, more so in highly populated area's, that they quite literally have no sense of what normal or nature is.

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Tito can come back when ever he wants.
Problem was that he pull around members for 10 years,
while he was creating his own religion and church here.

Just like the good old days when the church sent it's missionaries out to every corner of the Earth to "spread the word". However when conversion didn't work the soldiers were often sent in to convert them by force. I like how Tito always integrates theism with FE, as if to say all you have to do is believe in god and FE could be yours. The missionaries used the same techniques to bait others into believing and once people were converted they would convert there family and friends. It's a remarkable system of mind control because it's so subtle and few question it... we should question everything.

I once read an article written by a former priest who claimed they had quota's on how many new people they needed to convert just like Amway. The more people they converted and the more money they brought in the faster they moved up the ladder like a pyramid scheme. As such theism/organized religion may be the oldest pyramid scheme in history with a net worth in trillions of dollars partly due to there wonderful tax free status. Imagine a multi-trillion dollar business/pyramid scheme which pays no tax, provides no tangible goods or services and there customers feel morally compelled to convert others into more customers... fascinating stuff.

Regards

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