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Offline profitis

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8010 on: October 06, 2017, 09:32:20 AM »
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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8011 on: October 06, 2017, 01:11:56 PM »

In my own defense, the harping was more about the significance of the relations between three coils....this more so than the necessity for three coils....  It should be obvious how they are "physically" related....do we have more than two options...?  I hope you don't mind my saying, in my opinion, your thinking is in the right place, however, your questions are still too generic, too general.....  If possible focus on "interactions" between coils rather than physical relations....


There are people on this platform who have experimented with multifilar coils....none of them have demonstrated what I have shown you in our offline discussions....what are they missing......




Regards


Is the multifilar coil to be arranged as the constituent coils in Tesla’s ozone patent circuit?  With the coils being switched between magnetic conjunction and opposition?  This would give that impedance mismatch of which you’ve spoken..


I have experimented with various arrangements using opposition charging and conjunction discharging to run a motor.  You can see a jacknoskills inspired circuit that I experimented with a few months ago using the opposing end of the third winding as a source of high potential.  Although you mentioned in a post a while back that during cap charging, the motor would spin.  This didn’t happen in the arrangement I was experimenting with.  However, using the correct configuration, I could in a similar manner cause conjunction charging and opposition discharging just by making a few adjustments, thus causing motoring force during cap charging.


I have no idea if I have been searching in the right direction but I figured I’d throw this out there so you can either completely destroy it or encourage it.


Thanks,


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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8012 on: October 06, 2017, 06:58:41 PM »
"The latter task is
impossible if the prior was not successfully
accomplished."

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8013 on: October 06, 2017, 11:07:52 PM »
Multiplying Free Energy is super simple with this GEM-(Geometrical Electricity Multiplier=AC type) free electricity multiplying mechanism at http://free-energy.yolasite.com/. This is a device that can be easily + cheaply assembled by using one large pulley attached to a DC motor, + at least one mini-pulley connected to an AC generator, both must be of the same voltage, 4 diodes to build a crude full wave bridge rectifier-(converts your AC output into DC input that your drive motor needs), a lot of wire to connect your electrical components together, and a belt, strap or tied piece of rope or string, to connect the two or more pulleys together. This has to be dirt simple + cheap to build, as it will be needed to be built by the Tribulation Saints, whom cannot buy or sell.
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This works on the simplest of principles, the principles of basic preschool pulley mechanics, where you only have to pay the small amount of electricity,(only a spark) that it takes to gain one single rotation of a DC motor, with a large 100 cm circumference pulley attached to it. With this one rotation of a large pulley, you can freely gain a long length of 100 cm of moving belt, which will give you a multiple of 100 rotations, for your one, or as many 1 cm circumference mini-pulleys that you wish to attach to this same belt. Then all that you would have to do is, attach AC generators to as many of these mini-pulleys that you choose to attach to the same belt as your large 100 cm pulley, which is attached to a DC drive motor.
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You could even freely gain 1000 cycles of AC electricity from this single burst of DC current, if you chose to attach 10 mini-pulleys to the same belt/strap, with AC generators. Please don't listen to these fake worries about torque being a problem, as these mini-pulleys would run free of any torque, as torque comes from when you need to generate power. Power is calculated by multiplying voltage time current, and although your many rotations of these mini-pulleys are generating massive voltage, which is exactly what you need to crank over your DC drive motor the one single time, you are in need of only one mere spark of current. So, even massive amounts of voltage, when it is multiplied by the almost zero amount of current that it takes to rotate a DC motor once, it would equal out to practically zero power, cost practically zero torque. 


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« Reply #8014 on: October 09, 2017, 03:12:04 PM »
As I explained in my last post in that thread I don't really consider it the same as THE "Zero Force Motor" as I have not even watched any of  the videos about that motor or read the book.  I originally posted the video to show Bro. Mikey he was wrong about a motor with air coils running away because of no BEMF.  I was then asked by Aaron if I would be willing to share more about what I was doing.  So after a few days of consideration I decided to share some of what I was up to.  I didn't share some other ideas I have for power and generating coils.  Those are not for a group of people that won't even try to replicate correctly what someone takes time to show them.

Thanks for all your hints and suggestions.  I am still trying to learn and feel I have a long way to go to get even close to where I want to be.

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8015 on: October 14, 2017, 05:07:27 PM »
It would probably be wise for me not to digress, the discussion is about "Energy Amplification"....  It's strange, after all this time, it appears as if none are aware of the "exact" instance, when the term "amplification" applies.... specifically in the ozone patent.

We talk about Tesla as if we know him through his works, I find we dishonor him by not seeing, and thereby appreciating what he laid at our feet.....  The ozone patent is a masterpiece......mastery of which is but the first step....
Regards

Hear, hear!!!

But what does the patent really do?

Here is the problem with the capacitor. Many say the capacitor "discharges" when H connects. OK, explain to me how the capacitor charges and how it keeps its charge, too then discharge. The problem being that during Teslas' time there were no diodes to hold any charge in a capacitor for it to then be discharged when required. In the patent, the capacitor is inline between a constantly connected positive potential on one side of it, and on the other side it is constantly connected to the working primary that is connected to the fan and rotary switch turning dc motor brushes that then goes to the negative potential. So the capacitor is always connected to the source and is never left as charged so it in reality cannot discharge any more then the source itself. There cannot be a high discharge of capacitive potential. In water terms, the capacitor becomes something akin to a low volume pressure tank or better put a small water hammer arrestor. But why put an arrestor on the positive line before the working primary? It is because the arrestor or capacitor is put there because when the feed potential is reversed again when H opens, the "let's say current" can reverse back into the working primary and because of the capacitor it lands in the capacitor thus passing 100% of the working primary and by doing so creates a change in the total length of the working primary which is the real object of the patent. How to change potential in all of the primary and not only in half of it like it would undergo if it was switched in a traditional linear circuit.

Mind play. What happens if you took the capacitor out and replaced it with a nice inductive coil or even another DC motor but that had twice or three times the inductance of the existing fan motor? So you have two dc motors running on each side of the working primary. This will do the same thing as how Tesla is using the capacitor. From the positive side, the capacitor is seen as a normal wire that conducts like any other wire will do. From the negative side the same capacitor is seen as an small expansion point making sure that anything that goes to the working primary passes it completely and slightly expanding in the capacitor. Hence the more COMPLETE the potential change can occur in the working primary, the more it will impart to the high voltage secondary. Yes it is a true masterpiece. He is basically using the capacitor as a high inductance coil in series with the low inductance working primary.

One day I would like to make an animation of the circuit workings of that patent under Spin Conveyance because under the Standard EE model, that patent is just a technical mess and most likely one of the main reasons why this patent has been so misunderstood for so long. You cannot explain it with Standard EE and maybe this is one of the reasons why Tesla made it to fly in the face of the inconsistent physics eggs that were being laid by the intellectual hens of those days. Basically with this patent Tesla found a way to beat or circumvent Half Coil Syndrome which he probably knew existed but did not have any way of discussing it because the mentally of electricity travel in a wire was so pervasive, being a false notion that relegated our effects as linear travel, but there never was any electricity travel, it was always conveyed. 

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8016 on: October 14, 2017, 05:28:06 PM »
Hear, hear!!!

But what does the patent really do?

Here is the problem with the capacitor. Many say the capacitor "discharges" when H connects. OK, explain to me how the capacitor charges and how it keeps its charge, too then discharge. The problem being that during Teslas' time there were no diodes to hold any charge in a capacitor for it to then be discharged when required. In the patent, the capacitor is inline between a constantly connected positive potential on one side of it, and on the other side it is constantly connected to the working primary that is connected to the fan and rotary switch turning dc motor brushes that then goes to the negative potential. So the capacitor is always connected to the source and is never left as charged so it in reality cannot discharge any more then the source itself. There cannot be a high discharge of capacitive potential. In water terms, the capacitor becomes something akin to a low volume pressure tank or better put a small water hammer arrestor. But why put an arrestor on the positive line before the working primary? It is because the arrestor or capacitor is put there because when the feed potential is reversed again when H opens, the "let's say current" can reverse back into the working primary and because of the capacitor it lands in the capacitor thus passing 100% of the working primary and by doing so creates a change in the total length of the working primary which is the real object of the patent. How to change potential in all of the primary and not only in half of it like it would undergo if it was switched in a traditional linear circuit.

Mind play. What happens if you took the capacitor out and replaced it with a nice inductive coil or even another DC motor but that had twice or three times the inductance of the existing fan motor? So you have two dc motors running on each side of the working primary. This will do the same thing as how Tesla is using the capacitor. From the positive side, the capacitor is seen as a normal wire that conducts like any other wire will do. From the negative side the same capacitor is seen as an small expansion point making sure that anything that goes to the working primary passes it completely and slightly expanding in the capacitor. Hence the more COMPLETE the potential change can occur in the working primary, the more it will impart to the high voltage secondary. Yes it is a true masterpiece. He is basically using the capacitor as a high inductance coil in series with the low inductance working primary.

One day I would like to make an animation of the circuit workings of that patent under Spin Conveyance because under the Standard EE model, that patent is just a technical mess and most likely one of the main reasons why this patent has been so misunderstood for so long. You cannot explain it with Standard EE and maybe this is one of the reasons why Tesla made it to fly in the face of the inconsistent physics eggs that were being laid by the intellectual hens of those days. Basically with this patent Tesla found a way to beat or circumvent Half Coil Syndrome which he probably knew existed but did not have any way of discussing it because the mentally of electricity travel in a wire was so pervasive, being a false notion that relegated our effects as linear travel, but there never was any electricity travel, it was always conveyed. 

wattsup


If you make animation or better yet , video with your explanation of Tesla patent I will be glad to watch it many times to grasp the idea. Things are harder to understand with age especially in foreign language :-( It would be really helpful. I had the idea but I cannot prove it or check it, and with my very rude experiments it seems to be wrong...but I thought that maybe Tesla used the shorting coil method used by Aviso to charge capacitor to higher voltage.

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« Reply #8017 on: October 14, 2017, 09:45:58 PM »
If you make animation or better yet , video with your explanation of Tesla patent I will be glad to watch it many times to grasp the idea. Things are harder to understand with age especially in foreign language :-( It would be really helpful. I had the idea but I cannot prove it or check it, and with my very rude experiments it seems to be wrong...but I thought that maybe Tesla used the shorting coil method used by Aviso to charge capacitor to higher voltage.

@forest

This thread goes back many years indeed and back in 2011 I had posted a small animation to show the simplistic nature of how both polarities of a battery advance into a circuit.
http://overunity.com/6763/energy-amplification/msg279767/#msg279767

Years later, I then did some videos of Half Coil Syndrome to show how our coils work when pulsed on one side only. This one side pulsing is the bane of our existence and includes probably 98% of how our coils and motors are used and why we will never go above COP in this manner.

I have had many years since then to put it all together under one main atomic effect of the nucleus that has been neglected ever since Faraday was "forced" to rationalize the coil and compass effect as being a field related effect. He had to include the field because our past was built on it since 100s of years before him. Academia at the time only wanted the field construct to fit the effect and help our minds grasp or hallucinate "action at a distance". But it was all faulty logic married by Maxwell to fancy numbers. This is still where we are today. Faulty or not, our toys work so who cares, right?

So of course today such a construct as Spin Conveyance is like saying Jesus was not the son of God but an offspring of extraterrestrial alien insemination. But man oh man, SC explains it all so fluently that the EE Electron and Field model will one day become obsolete. It may take 20 years before it hits the classes but the more I see this the more stronger my position is. Usually, when a construct is spawned, it will quickly die from inconsistent matching to effects. But SC fits it all. I am sure if I put this in front of Tesla in his days, he would have realized the importance and direct attribution and understanding of our effects as in this manner, instead of the Electron/Field construct he so despised just by his own natural sense of universal cause and effect. He knew it down in his gut that something was wrong with the Electron model but he had his own priorities and we thank him for sticking to them and not being overly distracted in those days. Construct modelization was not his calling.

Example problem: You pulse a nice square wave onto one side of a coil. You scope the coil and see this crazy looking waveform. You then increase the frequency of that same square wave pulse and all of a sudden you see this bland boring sine wave showing a gradual increase, peak, gradual decrease to zero then you see this gradual increase going below the zero line to a peak "negative" then a gradual increase to zero again. So now, try to explain how purported electrons traveling in a wire at said speeds that would make your heart stop, all in one direction from a square wave pulse will create a nice sine wave above a certain frequency. Try to explain that with Standard EE physics. Oh this must be one of those famous exceptions to the Standard Model. If a physics model is to have any sense of truth, how can you even accept one exception. No a model MUST handle all effects if it is to be considered viable. As soon as it fails on a major cause/effect, it has to be scrapped or modified. The fact that science has had 100s of years of piece-mealing and force-feeding our accepted science into what it is today does not make it right. It only makes it mildly palpable and greatly full of holes. But if you never consider that there can be holes, you will never even look for them.

As pulse frequency goes faster, the transformation of a complex waveform into a simple sine waveform shows us that we have reached the physical limits of a physical condition and the only physical condition that it can be is the copper nucleus' limit to how fast it can sway to an impulse and return from an impulse. If you held your hand steady while you let your index finger point up to its extreme limit and down to its extreme limit as a physical movement, then if I asked you to do that faster and faster, you will see that you cannot do that while keeping the same length of movement so the movements get shorter and shorter as you increase the speed. Your index finger just explained the same limitations in the nuclei which explains this cause/effect. It's so simple you would laugh. This same SC notion then can be used in variations to explain the physical effect of resistance,  inductance, capacitance, etc., all physical forms of effect that are today only explained by formulas and force fed by speedy moving electrons.

I had also made an animation on a Joule Thief circuit located here;
http://etherimpress.com/forum/index.php?topic=687.msg2330#msg2330

Also, two docs on SC are located here;
http://etherimpress.com/forum/index.php?topic=684.msg2326#msg2326

Sorry if my posts are long winded but luckily I don't post that often anymore. hahaha

wattsup

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« Reply #8018 on: October 15, 2017, 11:22:27 AM »
Hallo guys, hope you are fine.
The bigger problem in this design is that very few people bother to test and experiment on. I also like to assume what a circuit does when i look at it, but in most of the instances there are issues that just can not be predicted.
Few things about what you miss here are:

1. There is no need for a diode but even if you use one the outcome doesn't change...a lot.
2. In this specific circuit the charging current is DC even if it can also  be done by using AC
3.  " currents with great electromotive force" is the key word
4. The phase between current and voltage is a condition which has to be taken seriously
5. Current's change of rate at key moments has a great impact on the operation.

But again without bench work it is rather impossible to see what is going on here. And as Erfinder said this is nothing else but the first step.

Wish you the best
Jeg

 

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« Reply #8019 on: October 16, 2017, 02:51:07 PM »


Regards
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In the future, it would be professional of you to refrain from quoting me....we don't think alike, we have nothing in common...you do not comprehend the patent under discussion, and it is my firm opinion that you are only here to massage your ego, with assistance of those who are willing to oil up and rub you down.....disgusting....

Just where the fuck do you get off? thinking you have the smarts to put some one down like that.

Wattsup has helped more,shown more,and been far more innovative/creative than you have ever been.
There is only one here !stroking! there ego--and that's you-you ass clown.

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Tesla does a  superb job spelling out what the patent does...  I am sure you can read, but this isn't about reading it's about comprehending...  Can you see what is suggested but not communicated aloud.....  No...in this department you are an epic fail.

The only epic fail here--is you.
Fail to show anything of any use.
Fail to explain anything to anyone.
And the biggest fail--to think you know Tesla's work,and understand what he dose not say or show.

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Everything following your brain fart can be filed in the trash bin.  Your ignorance and arrogance blinds you from that which matters.  Your inability to see and properly interpret the obvious is painful to watch.

Whats painful to watch,is those that i consider good people,falling for your bullshit and baffle.
All you ever do is quote Tesla,when you have no idea what the hell your talking about.

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In the example (Ozone circuit), the capacitor is charged by a DC source.....no diode required......duh....  In variations of the same circuit where AC is the source, he "diagrammatically" suggests a simple yet mind boggling method for charging AC caps to a DC potential without the use of rectifiers....  I was obsessed with the "missing rectifiers", so much so that I dedicated years to finding why he didn't use them and authorities and their minions state that they are a must...  I found the method, all that was required was that I dismiss my preconceived notions.

Another lot of bullshit that belongs at EF,so as you and your two co-horts can write a book of secrets on mechanical,magnetic and flyback rectification--all old news.

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I can show you how it's done, how to charge a AC cap from an AC source to a DC potential without diodes, using a method which was well known and practiced in Teslas' time...

I can show you 3 different ways-woopty-f*&king doo.

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In exchange for the disclosure, I ask that you refrain from commenting in any thread on this forum dealing with Teslas' work!  Your theories are an unwelcome distraction

And just when do you think you earned the right to put this kind of ultimatum on any member here?

Your theories are nothing but horse shit--a continuous babble of nothingness.

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....If it was put to a vote.....I am positive folk would run your ass out of here, if for no other reason, curiosity regarding this cap charging method...

Those here are smart enough to see blackmail when it's presented--as you just did.

My vote is--wattsup stay's--and you take a flying leap.

You show small parts of a system to a select few,but never show the whole picture--why.
Well here is why--because if you showed the whole system,then those in the know would soon sniff out your bullshit--and your goose would be fried.

Lucky for us,there are a few that see right through your bullshit,and so,wattsup will be here to stay,as most will know what he has done,what he has contributed to,and those he has helped out over the years--not to mention all the alternative ideas he has put forth over the years-->unlike yourself,who has given nothing at all.


Up Yours


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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8020 on: October 18, 2017, 01:45:08 AM »
Just where the fuck do you get off? thinking you have the smarts to put some one down like that.

Wattsup has helped more,shown more,and been far more innovative/creative than you have ever been.
There is only one here !stroking! there ego--and that's you-you ass clown.

The only epic fail here--is you.
Fail to show anything of any use.
Fail to explain anything to anyone.
And the biggest fail--to think you know Tesla's work,and understand what he dose not say or show.

Whats painful to watch,is those that i consider good people,falling for your bullshit and baffle.
All you ever do is quote Tesla,when you have no idea what the hell your talking about.

Another lot of bullshit that belongs at EF,so as you and your two co-horts can write a book of secrets on mechanical,magnetic and flyback rectification--all old news.

I can show you 3 different ways-woopty-f*&king doo.

And just when do you think you earned the right to put this kind of ultimatum on any member here?

Your theories are nothing but horse shit--a continuous babble of nothingness.

Those here are smart enough to see blackmail when it's presented--as you just did.

My vote is--wattsup stay's--and you take a flying leap.

You show small parts of a system to a select few,but never show the whole picture--why.
Well here is why--because if you showed the whole system,then those in the know would soon sniff out your bullshit--and your goose would be fried.

Lucky for us,there are a few that see right through your bullshit,and so,wattsup will be here to stay,as most will know what he has done,what he has contributed to,and those he has helped out over the years--not to mention all the alternative ideas he has put forth over the years-->unlike yourself,who has given nothing at all.


Up Yours


Brad

Maybe he is trying to help others get it without having the same issues you had with your rotary transformer. So what ever happened to that?

Mags

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« Reply #8021 on: October 18, 2017, 07:40:52 AM »
Hallo guys, hope you are fine.
The bigger problem in this design is that very few people bother to test and experiment on. I also like to assume what a circuit does when i look at it, but in most of the instances there are issues that just can not be predicted.
Few things about what you miss here are:

1. There is no need for a diode but even if you use one the outcome doesn't change...a lot.
2. In this specific circuit the charging current is DC even if it can also  be done by using AC
3.  " currents with great electromotive force" is the key word
4. The phase between current and voltage is a condition which has to be taken seriously
5. Current's change of rate at key moments has a great impact on the operation.

But again without bench work it is rather impossible to see what is going on here. And as Erfinder said this is nothing else but the first step.

Wish you the best
Jeg

 If the timing of the switching is faster than the inductance feeding the cap, then it is mechanical switching rectification. Switch to charge the cap, then switch to discharge the cap. If the cap is only charged up to the input voltage then no rectification needed unless we are just trying to separate parts of the circuit from another. But if the motors inductance charges the cap beyond the input voltage then rectification needed, mech or diode, if the goal is for the cap to hold that higher potential than the input for discharge later. If it were an ac input, then Id say the speed of the switching would be critical and would need to be regulated to switching in time with the phase of such input.

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« Reply #8022 on: October 18, 2017, 08:11:58 AM »
Hear, hear!!!

But what does the patent really do?

Here is the problem with the capacitor. Many say the capacitor "discharges" when H connects. OK, explain to me how the capacitor charges and how it keeps its charge, too then discharge. The problem being that during Teslas' time there were no diodes to hold any charge in a capacitor for it to then be discharged when required. In the patent, the capacitor is inline between a constantly connected positive potential on one side of it, and on the other side it is constantly connected to the working primary that is connected to the fan and rotary switch turning dc motor brushes that then goes to the negative potential. So the capacitor is always connected to the source and is never left as charged so it in reality cannot discharge any more then the source itself. There cannot be a high discharge of capacitive potential. In water terms, the capacitor becomes something akin to a low volume pressure tank or better put a small water hammer arrestor. But why put an arrestor on the positive line before the working primary? It is because the arrestor or capacitor is put there because when the feed potential is reversed again when H opens, the "let's say current" can reverse back into the working primary and because of the capacitor it lands in the capacitor thus passing 100% of the working primary and by doing so creates a change in the total length of the working primary which is the real object of the patent. How to change potential in all of the primary and not only in half of it like it would undergo if it was switched in a traditional linear circuit.

Mind play. What happens if you took the capacitor out and replaced it with a nice inductive coil or even another DC motor but that had twice or three times the inductance of the existing fan motor? So you have two dc motors running on each side of the working primary. This will do the same thing as how Tesla is using the capacitor. From the positive side, the capacitor is seen as a normal wire that conducts like any other wire will do. From the negative side the same capacitor is seen as an small expansion point making sure that anything that goes to the working primary passes it completely and slightly expanding in the capacitor. Hence the more COMPLETE the potential change can occur in the working primary, the more it will impart to the high voltage secondary. Yes it is a true masterpiece. He is basically using the capacitor as a high inductance coil in series with the low inductance working primary.

One day I would like to make an animation of the circuit workings of that patent under Spin Conveyance because under the Standard EE model, that patent is just a technical mess and most likely one of the main reasons why this patent has been so misunderstood for so long. You cannot explain it with Standard EE and maybe this is one of the reasons why Tesla made it to fly in the face of the inconsistent physics eggs that were being laid by the intellectual hens of those days. Basically with this patent Tesla found a way to beat or circumvent Half Coil Syndrome which he probably knew existed but did not have any way of discussing it because the mentally of electricity travel in a wire was so pervasive, being a false notion that relegated our effects as linear travel, but there never was any electricity travel, it was always conveyed. 

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I just explained the mech rectification in my last post.  The inductance of the motor is a large inductance. Just as simply explained in the Tesla Igniter pat. The igniter pat shows how to charge the cap to a high potential using very little input current. The large inductor is large enough that the timing of the points in the engine( in his illustration is just the switch at a particular position of the piston) when the engine is running, that the cap is at a much higher potential by the time the points switch connects. Lets say that the large inductor has completed charging the cap via field collapse. Sure the cap with a larger potential could possibly reverse its way back to the lower potential input if the switching did not occur fast enough or not at all. But field collapse currents of an inductor happen way faster than the time it takes for charging up the 'Large' inductor. So even when the engine is at its lower rpm or sluggish start, the cap should still hold a much higher potential than the input before discharging.

When the cap is discharged into the very low turn, low impedance, low resistance, low inductance of a step up transformer primary, it is now putting the large inductor directly across the input source of which gets the currents flowing in the large inductor so when the discharge switch is opened, the large inductor dumps its field collapse currents into the cap, and repeat.

Id say instead of trying to make a simulation or an animation of the circuit, try and build the circuit. It may never show you what the real thing is actually doing. And if the sim/anim draws you to a conclusion that the thing will not work for OU purposes, then i have to argue and differ with that conclusion as I could not find that conclusive.  Forget the fan, forget the motor and make it simpler with just a controlled switch and replace the motor part of the circuit with a large inductor. Maybe use a motor for the switching, but its windings would need to be of a large inductance, value, where a lot of them today may not work for this. So use a speed controllable motor to do the switching but have a large inductance in place of that portion of the circuit. Or try a dozen other ways to do the switching and no motor at all.  Could build a high inductance motor with the armature windings and stator windings in series and make it as original as possible.  That part is probably what veers people away from it as that would be most of the lot of work in the project and may consider it too difficult.

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8023 on: October 18, 2017, 02:19:52 PM »
Maybe he is trying to help others get it without having the same issues you had with your rotary transformer. So what ever happened to that?

Mags

Have you ever seen me belittle some one like Erfinder belittled wattsup?

Have i ever said i would share something,if such and such a person stop's posting here on this forum?.

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your rotary transformer. So what ever happened to that?

It sits on the shelf in my workshop,and my offer still stands--that is,i challenge Erfinder to put up any one of his machines against my RT for an efficiency comparison-->yes Erfinder,my machine you called an abomination,but also a machine you fear to go head to head with.

I am of course willing to let any ! yes,any! third party to confirm P/in and P/out measurements on my RT if Erfinder takes up the challenge--the one thing you will never !!NEVER!! see Erfinder allowing.

So-im calling his bluff,and he is yet to answer it.


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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8024 on: October 18, 2017, 02:53:33 PM »
"you do not comprehend
the patent under discussion, and it is my firm opinion
that you are only here to massage your ego, with
assistance of those who are willing to"

Hey hey don't attak the englishman just bexos his in
new york.the man is much smarter than u think pal

 

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