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totoalas

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #4395 on: February 10, 2014, 10:47:33 PM »
a spark gap from ignition coil plus earth on the  ferrite e core has increased the ac voltage from 120 to 345 v ac   using wall adaptor
in my test :)

Tito L. Oracion

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #4396 on: February 10, 2014, 11:52:33 PM »
You didn't say anything that made any sense for me to say if you are right or wrong.  ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

I asked you a simple question and you talk in tongues.   :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P But do not or cannot answer.

"You charge a capacitor to a very high voltage." I do that often, do you ?  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ??? ??? ???

"Then amazing things will happen ?" Depends on what you mean by amazing.  ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

How about you show us something you have built ? Or are you all talk ?  ;D :D ;D :) ;)

I'm not playing your games. If you cannot show us something that you have built then I say you are full of it, and simply playing games for attention.  :) ;) :D ;) :) ;D :D ;)

You don't need any attention from me, plenty of others will give it to you for free.  :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D :D :) ;) ;D ;D :D

 :D ;D ;)

Free attention = free energy,  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) :) :) :)

Cheers, Want more emoticons, here  >:( ;) :) ;) ;D :D :D :D :D :D :D :) :) :)

Have some more  :) ;) :D ;D :D ;) :)

Hang on I forgot one  :P

See anyone can post silly stuff, it's easy. How about answering the question.

Why should the circuit give up free energy ? Are you capable of giving a comprehensible answer ?

If you don't I will assume you are not.

Cheers


So you do charge caps into high voltage very often, hmmm, so what is the our difference.  ;D ;D ;D


I am not getting nor very interested in your attention!!! >:( >:( >:( :P


I'm just making video sharing here and just giving some tips and sometime asking question here for me to learn also. got that?


Now!, i think i don't have any obligation here to answer you what you want.


So weather you want to believe or not, I don't care!!! period! :P


one more thing, you try to learn how to use emo icons ha ;D  don replicate me i'm more worst! lol >:( :( ;D :D :D ;) :) :o 8) 8) 8)


@everyone
 for the sake of everyone. you think about this:
Why tesla made a patent about power regulation?
obviously He has burned lots of components isn't it. ;D  what a genius Tesla. lol
Experience really is the best professor isn't it. :D ;D


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Bruce_TPU

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #4397 on: February 11, 2014, 12:08:49 AM »
a spark gap from ignition coil plus earth on the  ferrite e core has increased the ac voltage from 120 to 345 v ac   using wall adaptor
in my test :)

Now that may be interesting.   And did the current diminish as the voltage increased?

Was it open circuited voltage or across a resistor?

a.king21

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #4398 on: February 11, 2014, 12:18:20 AM »
No Dave45. You got it right previously. Again back to Tom Bearden moving picture  ;)  Save it and analyze frames. That is the essence when simple Farmhand "activity" converts into magic Tesla ACTIVITY.


Forest:  Do you have a link?

Magluvin

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #4399 on: February 11, 2014, 12:34:09 AM »
Dear Bruce.

Non taken !!  :)

What I did not understand was the fact that a 1:1 ratio transformer created a non 1:1 ratio output. With a load attached as well !! Could you explain the reason for me please ??

Cheers Grum.

I agree Grum. ;)

That seems special enough. I was impressed. ;D

Im not sure that it constitutes a parametric, as from what Ive read, there is no center coil, just the 90deg difference in the 2 openings of the core. Ive messed with multi cores, but not 3 coils in a row as you have. You might get the same effect without the 90deg cores, just make them 0deg and should be the same.  Is there any space between the cores, or physically touching? The parametric Ive seen is 1 solid core with the 2 openings 90 deg from each other.

If you can, it would be good to get some readings on in and out power. ;)

Mags

Grumage

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #4400 on: February 11, 2014, 12:50:45 AM »
I agree Grum. ;)

That seems special enough. I was impressed. ;D

Im not sure that it constitutes a parametric, as from what Ive read, there is no center coil, just the 90deg difference in the 2 openings of the core. Ive messed with multi cores, but not 3 coils in a row as you have. You might get the same effect without the 90deg cores, just make them 0deg and should be the same.  Is there any space between the cores, or physically touching? The parametric Ive seen is 1 solid core with the 2 openings 90 deg from each other.

If you can, it would be good to get some readings on in and out power. ;)

Mags

Dear Mags.

Thank you for your reply !! Better than the explanation I have not received from dear Bruce !!

You are quite correct regarding the "Non" parametric aspect !! Yes it should have a proper core coupling not as I have done with, what is effectively a shorted turn. So maybe some tests could be tried with multiple loops !!  ;)

Alas in trying to revisit this experiment that was done nearly a year ago now I have taken out my power amp module!! It will be a few days before I can obtain a replacement but I will hopefully be able to provide the necessary P in P out data.

Cheers Grum.

Magluvin

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« Reply #4401 on: February 11, 2014, 01:20:29 AM »
Dear Mags.

Thank you for your reply !! Better than the explanation I have not received from dear Bruce !!

You are quite correct regarding the "Non" parametric aspect !! Yes it should have a proper core coupling not as I have done with, what is effectively a shorted turn. So maybe some tests could be tried with multiple loops !!  ;)

Alas in trying to revisit this experiment that was done nearly a year ago now I have taken out my power amp module!! It will be a few days before I can obtain a replacement but I will hopefully be able to provide the necessary P in P out data.

Cheers Grum.

Hey Grum

Yep, I took out my amp doing the same. lol   I have to fix it.

While using another amp, I just kept the input to levels that the amp can handle.

You can wind smaller wire till you get 4ohm on the coils, which the amp will like much better. ;)

Im going through some of my cores to put together, where I will make the primary a bifi coil. It is said that using just 2 cores, primary wound on 1 core, and the second coil around/through the first core and a second core, loading the second core doesnt kill off primary resonance. ;D So it will be interesting to see if thats the case.

Keep up the good work. ;)

Mags

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #4402 on: February 11, 2014, 01:39:47 AM »
Not to get off topic, just wondering if you guy's have seen this.
http://www.overunity.com/14128/an-interesting-phenomenon-i-found/msg387246/#new

totoalas

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #4403 on: February 11, 2014, 04:23:01 AM »
Now that may be interesting.   And did the current diminish as the voltage increased? 40 w load  stop blinking yes current increased

Was it open circuited voltage or across a resistor? open circuit v

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #4404 on: February 11, 2014, 04:42:10 AM »
Dear Mags.

Thank you for your reply !! Better than the explanation I have not received from dear Bruce !!

You are quite correct regarding the "Non" parametric aspect !! Yes it should have a proper core coupling not as I have done with, what is effectively a shorted turn. So maybe some tests could be tried with multiple loops !!  ;)

Alas in trying to revisit this experiment that was done nearly a year ago now I have taken out my power amp module!! It will be a few days before I can obtain a replacement but I will hopefully be able to provide the necessary P in P out data.

Cheers Grum.

Hi Grum,

Listen, i play with toroids and windings more than any could imagine.  I have seen and produced things that I could not always expect.  But the point I was trying to make is never measure open circuited voltage.  It so varieswith capacitance. 

Also you gave no input nor output current.   Always use a resistor or load for proper measuring.  Open circuited voltage is too affected by capacitance.

that is my suggestion.

Redo your test with input voltage and current and place a 10 ohm resistor across the load.  That was my point.

Capacitance fools. 

Cheers,

Bruce

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« Reply #4405 on: February 11, 2014, 04:52:16 AM »


Hi Totoales,

i have MUCH respect for you and Grum and other REAL experimenters.

But please ignore open voltage.  Not saying it doesn't mean anything,  just saying you'll only know measuring across a resistor and using rms voltage on scope.  Or smooth to dc then resistor.

I am interested in the use of ground.  But again, measure across a resistor without ground, etc and the with and see if there is a difference.  If so, then you may be onto something.

Good job,

Bruce

Magluvin

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #4406 on: February 11, 2014, 05:30:44 AM »
Above all, the fact that the out V is greater than the in V is the interesting part. it does seem to be a 1to1 ratio. And it is simple AC in AC out.  Now if it were pulsed or square in, then I wouldnt be so surprised. Makes me wana do 3 cores with 4 coils. lol  Hey, who woulda thunk that the voltage would have been greater with what Grum shows in winding ratios? I would expect V in to be V out if I had just seen the setup before seeing measurements. So what might more cores and coils do? ;D Would anyone expect a 1to1 ratio with 3 cores and 4 coils? Would anyone expect no more V out than Grum has shown with just 2 cores and 3 coils???? ;) Any explanations of why out V is greater than in V??

Mags


Tito L. Oracion

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« Reply #4407 on: February 11, 2014, 06:16:27 AM »
Above all, the fact that the out V is greater than the in V is the interesting part. it does seem to be a 1to1 ratio. And it is simple AC in AC out.  Now if it were pulsed or square in, then I wouldnt be so surprised. Makes me wana do 3 cores with 4 coils. lol  Hey, who woulda thunk that the voltage would have been greater with what Grum shows in winding ratios? I would expect V in to be V out if I had just seen the setup before seeing measurements. So what might more cores and coils do? ;D Would anyone expect a 1to1 ratio with 3 cores and 4 coils? Would anyone expect no more V out than Grum has shown with just 2 cores and 3 coils? ??? ;) Any explanations of why out V is greater than in V??

Mags


Well, that is basic also, the V out is not only depending on turn but on type of core and how it was wound in the core. etc, and some other efficiencies to make the volts greater.  :D
and i believe that by adding magnet we can gain additional voltage.  :D

totoalas

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #4408 on: February 11, 2014, 08:30:05 AM »

Well, that is basic also, the V out is not only depending on turn but on type of core and how it was wound in the core. etc, and some other efficiencies to make the volts greater.  :D
and i believe that by adding magnet we can gain additional voltage.  :D
Using magnet as spacer instead of paper in the center of my two e cores  proves ur point     oooooh   hhahhh   yun un 
I have a vintage scope and its just a matter of time before I can make a handle ot it  thanks Bruce
 
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Tito when can you show us ur   YT   link   
 :) ;) :D ;D >:( :( :o 8) ??? ::) :P   TADO   RIP
 
 

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« Reply #4409 on: February 11, 2014, 01:06:15 PM »

Forest:  Do you have a link?
I think this is what Forest was referring too.

http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/tbfrenrg.htm