Author Topic: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION (Read 3551040 times)

Magluvin · « **Reply #3795 on:** December 06, 2013, 12:59:15 AM »

Quote from: a.king21 on December 05, 2013, 11:14:11 PM

(http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tesla/coloradonotes/images/colora109.gif)

Hmmmm. With igniter patent??
Hmmmm.

Teets said YES.

But with a 'twist'.

Come on TITO. Oooo bop. Lets do oo the twist. Oooo bop bop. Come on TI TO. Oooo bop. Lets do do the twist. Oooo bop bop.

The only thing I can figure is to use the Igniter pat where the cap discharges into a primary that is bifi.

Another thing Im going to try is just letting collapse current from a coil dump direct to the bifi, as its capacitance will accept the dump, but a normal coil wont accept it.

I think both should be tried. From the 'coil for electromagnets' pat, he declares that higher voltage more effect, something like that.

I have some SIDACs ( like a solid state spark gap) that break over at 230v. Im going to try those with my Radioshack pocket inverter. 250v ac peak from 2 AA. 160v on recommended load(electroluminecent light strips)

I used it on my Lasersaber motor replication. Can charge 10uf pretty fast. So Ill have it load a cap to about 160v, then an inductor in series with a diode, from that cap to charge a smaller cap. When the smaller cap goes to 230v, it discharges to the bifi. Something like that.

I found the pat while searching one day. Tito had posted about it much earlier than me, as he posted so after I posted on it. It talks about gaining efficiency compared to holding 12v or 6v across the spark coil primary till the points open as more standard vehicles had. Now with ECM/ECU control the spark coils, with proper coil design the on time is short, then off, SPARK. But if you look at a standard points system, there is a cap across the points/switch. Without that cap, the spark is short and weak. But with the cap across the switch, we get oscillation with the coil primary, cap and 'battery' in a series loop when the switch across the cap opens. Its not capacitor discharge into the primary, like the Igniter pat, but there is oscilation and you can 'visually' see a longer lasting spark output due to the oscillation, something we dont get from a normal transformer.

I havnt seen any tests out there to check the efficiency of this oscillation compared to just the spark coil alone. Something else I have to get into.

When I read the pat and where it refers to more efficiency, I assumed OU. I didnt consider the huge 'inefficiency' of the old method at the time. But with a Twist, there may be something to it.

Mags

Bob Smith · « **Reply #3796 on:** December 06, 2013, 05:45:24 AM »

Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on January 16, 2013, 10:13:55 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-PParSmwtE&playnext=1&list=PL2ix4jZAJHcR4cAJEyoUF3B3TRSVhGRRe&feature=results_main
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsqxrxVR6pk&feature=endscreen&list=PL2ix4jZAJHcR4cAJEyoUF3B3TRSVhGRRe&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPdf3cGrqHg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B61DU7yEsPM&playnext=1&list=PL36D7ABECE2AC9666
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GVLnyTdqkg&list=PL36D7ABECE2AC9666
http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_239866&feature=iv&src_vid=0GVLnyTdqkg&v=526xslmO6Ds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdPoOAVAuFQ

Well Teets,
I took your advice and prayed about this, then went back through some posts. I see you've given everything... I understand now that this above post was a generous gift. I see three key ingredients coming from three key areas:
- loop antenna crystal radio
- joule theif
- TMT (from other posts)
Still have to work it out... in His good time

Thanks Teets.

that_prophet · « **Reply #3797 on:** December 06, 2013, 06:25:06 AM »

GEM=God's Electricity Machine

Free energy is so simple,
That we have missed it.

In our looking for such complex ways to fight friction costs.
We have failed to look at simple geometry
How you can multiply your rotations with changing the size of pulleys
Please remember, with electricity, more rotations is more power
don’t let them scare you off with the laws of thermodynamics
I know that the Tribulation Saints will need this technology
To keep warm in our cool Canadian winters
As well as a way to cook food, and light for Bible studies

So, I asked my Father for a way to help them through the great Tribulation
Or the last half of the Tribulation
When they will find themselves hunted down and eradicated
Fire seems to be the easiest + best option
But the by-products,(light, smoke, heat signiture) would get them quickly caught

We always thought that free energy would be complex
But it’s really super simple,,,
He went with something that I was familiar with
Teaching me about how a common ten speed bicycle gearing works
Showing me if you went up hill in tenth gear, (highest speed)
Then you came back down the hill in first gear, (slowest speed)
You would be paddling like crazy on the way down, lol
With electricity, more rotations equals more energy
So you are essentially multiplying you power for free

It is truly that simple

you put power into driving a DC motor only the one rotation,
and that motor is attached to a large pulley.
This large pulley turns only once,
will feed a cable or belt that can be connected to
ten or more very small pulleys, (small so that it rotates faster)
each one rotating tens to hundreds of times.
Each rotation gives you AC power. So,,,,,,,,,,,,

Your output is using pulleys to multiply your rotations = electricity AC output.
To give you a self powering AC/DC power supply
Ok guys + gals, lets start changing the world
We can start building things run on electricity anew
built with their own free energy power supply
The industries will go crazy with this
Especially the automobile industry
There is no more need to by oil
Except for lubrication in bearings,,, lol

Diagrams of some uses for this technology are at:
http://free-energy.yolasite.com/

Leely · « **Reply #3798 on:** December 06, 2013, 02:26:05 PM »

This thread should be deleted. There are other free energy replications out there. If u keep on following this thread, you will keep on getting misled that an ordinary capacitor will discharge and give u free energy, not only that; and power heavy load.

lancaIV · « **Reply #3799 on:** December 06, 2013, 03:00:59 PM »

Leely, it should be closed -no deleted - after the first c.e.d.-prototype DYA(gree) ?

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19990720&CC=US&NR=5926083A&KC=A
Knowledge based by automotive equipment (ignition coil circuit)compare

BTW : Permanent Magnet = Capacitive Magnet The PM-production process never interested you ?
Magnetret

Sincerely
OCWL

a.king21 · « **Reply #3800 on:** December 06, 2013, 05:37:20 PM »

Quote from: Leely on December 06, 2013, 02:26:05 PM

This thread should be deleted. There are other free energy replications out there. If u keep on following this thread, you will keep on getting misled that an ordinary capacitor will discharge and give u free energy, not only that; and power heavy load.

Wow! Show us your free energy device PLEASE!!!!.
We would all like to replicate it.

Cadman · « **Reply #3801 on:** December 06, 2013, 05:49:58 PM »

LC tank circuit with a capacitance of 2.533nF and an inductance of 10uH with a resonant frequency of 1 MHz, excited by an H-bridge +/- 1 V square wave = 400V AC @ 8A in 100us, simulated.

Theoretically with circuitry to convert that to 50 or 60 Hz a transformer could output about 14V @ 228A, ignoring circuit losses.

Anybody willing to confirm or refute this?

Magluvin · « **Reply #3802 on:** December 06, 2013, 06:33:20 PM »

Quote from: Loner on December 06, 2013, 12:57:47 PM

Magluvin

I can finally offer some info that I have done the research and testing on. With reference to the Cap on standard points ignition. This cap is ONLY for protection of the points, and to increase the speed of the open. Without this cap, the points arc more when opening, which actually slows down the rate of open....

Seeing that I have "updated" several coil systems from points to MOSFETs, I can say for certain that this is the case, in this specific example. The smallest voltage gain and plug spark comes from points with no cap. Next larger is the same points with a cap, and the best spark is with no cap, but using a MOSFET. (The nasty part has to do with the voltage rise on the primary with no plug to spark, as this lack of load creates a very high primary spike. Several auto mfg have this problem in their final amps, meaning that if you pull and insulate a plug wire, you WILL burn out the final amp transistor. I use MOV's on ALL my units.)

As to the value of the cap on points, it is specifically chosen to level the pitting of the contacts. Too little and one side pits. Too much and the other side pits. (Been too long for me to remember which side goes with which. Sorry.)

I realize I have said all this before, but as there are SO many posts out here, I just thought I should repeat myself. Designing ignition systems has become passe, as it's so simple to purchase aftermarket units these days. Hope that helps.

I have done much testing on this too. I found that while testing old spark coils at my work, not 1 of them produced as good of a spark, without the cap(.47uf 100v) than they do with the cap across the switch.
Sure it protects the points/switch. But the difference in spark is no joke.

There are so many circuits out there explaining it all wrong. Like here at Hyperphysics...

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/magnetic/ignition.html

Where they have the cap, it does nothing for saving the switch contacts.

I see many quoting that site, but that info should also be double checked.

Then we have this...

http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/ignition/ig104.htm

This guy has it right. "Initial pulsating is done by connecting and disconnecting the primary circuit ground connection. Alternating current then comes into the function in a 'big way' by electrical "ringing" in the condenser at very high frequency."

Mags

Dave45 · « **Reply #3803 on:** December 06, 2013, 09:32:50 PM »

without the cap the bemf will jump the points, the capacity of the cap has to be adjusted to match the points frequency. To much capacity in the cap and the cap will release its energy late, not enough capacity and the cap will release its energy too early. or explode

Whats really interesting is the bemf comes back into the cap as high voltage, but leaves the cap as current.

Dave45 · « **Reply #3804 on:** December 06, 2013, 10:00:30 PM »

Although there is another option, which scenario do you think is happening

Tito L. Oracion · « **Reply #3805 on:** December 07, 2013, 12:12:49 AM »

Quote from: Leely on December 06, 2013, 02:26:05 PM

This thread should be deleted. There are other free energy replications out there. If u keep on following this thread, you will keep on getting misled that an ordinary capacitor will discharge and give u free energy, not only that; and power heavy load.

I think you also delete the discoveries of tesla.

cause i just shared what tesla had discovered.

If you are really irritated with my works but you want to proceed following it, just scratch your head then proceed.

otits

Tito L. Oracion · « **Reply #3806 on:** December 07, 2013, 12:21:20 AM »

Quote from: Magluvin on December 06, 2013, 12:59:15 AM

Teets said YES. But with a 'twist'.

Come on TITO. Oooo bop. Lets do oo the twist. Oooo bop bop. Come on TI TO. Oooo bop. Lets do do the twist. Oooo bop bop.

The only thing I can figure is to use the Igniter pat where the cap discharges into a primary that is bifi.

Another thing Im going to try is just letting collapse current from a coil dump direct to the bifi, as its capacitance will accept the dump, but a normal coil wont accept it. I think both should be tried. From the 'coil for electromagnets' pat, he declares that higher voltage more effect, something like that.

I have some SIDACs ( like a solid state spark gap) that break over at 230v. Im going to try those with my Radioshack pocket inverter. 250v ac peak from 2 AA. 160v on recommended load(electroluminecent light strips)

I used it on my Lasersaber motor replication. Can charge 10uf pretty fast. So Ill have it load a cap to about 160v, then an inductor in series with a diode, from that cap to charge a smaller cap. When the smaller cap goes to 230v, it discharges to the bifi. Something like that.

I found the pat while searching one day. Tito had posted about it much earlier than me, as he posted so after I posted on it. It talks about gaining efficiency compared to holding 12v or 6v across the spark coil primary till the points open as more standard vehicles had. Now with ECM/ECU control the spark coils, with proper coil design the on time is short, then off, SPARK. But if you look at a standard points system, there is a cap across the points/switch. Without that cap, the spark is short and weak. But with the cap across the switch, we get oscillation with the coil primary, cap and 'battery' in a series loop when the switch across the cap opens. Its not capacitor discharge into the primary, like the Igniter pat, but there is oscilation and you can 'visually' see a longer lasting spark output due to the oscillation, something we dont get from a normal transformer. I havnt seen any tests out there to check the efficiency of this oscillation compared to just the spark coil alone. Something else I have to get into.

When I read the pat and where it refers to more efficiency, I assumed OU. I didnt consider the huge 'inefficiency' of the old method at the time. But with a Twist, there may be something to it.

Mags

I actually told the twist to study and that is the spark gap.

totoalas · « **Reply #3807 on:** December 07, 2013, 12:49:12 AM »

Flux capacitor self charger YT

otits and all

Merry Xmas

d3x0r · « **Reply #3808 on:** December 07, 2013, 01:06:31 AM »

Quote from: Dave45 on December 06, 2013, 10:00:30 PM

Although there is another option, which scenario do you think is happening

On the first phase, ground satisfies both high potentials...

Dave45 · « **Reply #3809 on:** December 07, 2013, 01:29:20 AM »

Quote from: d3x0r on December 07, 2013, 01:06:31 AM

On the first phase, ground satisfies both high potentials...

Hmm I see, thats the classic conventional view, positive is only a very low negative potential.
So bemf is a deficient of negative electrons and not a positive flow of positrons.

Oh I forgot the best one so I had to come back, voltage is pressure and current is flow

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