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Tito L. Oracion

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #1845 on: February 15, 2012, 04:21:58 AM »
What do you feel on the first kiss ?   :-*     =original voltage
 What are the affected areas? LOL     ;D     =?
is it bothering your tension? LOL       ;D     = increasingly higher voltage
don't you wan't it to reserve it? lol     ;D     = capacitor

First kiss is first kick ok!

absolutely right!!!
You just forgot the coil buddy its the solution to eliminate the sp-gap, and that's the affected areas ;)

Magluvin

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #1846 on: February 15, 2012, 04:27:37 AM »
Oh Pizza.  ;)

Mags

Tito L. Oracion

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #1847 on: February 15, 2012, 04:28:26 AM »
It seems that my students now are becoming many cause they now understand the way i spoke . LOL hahahahahahahaa  :D   ;D






bye buddy take care  ;)


and students be careful ok there's really danger there!!!  >:( 


Tito L. Oracion  ;D

Tito L. Oracion

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #1848 on: February 15, 2012, 04:31:42 AM »
Oh Pizza.  ;)

Mags


Pizza is good and teetza is bad. hahahahhahahah lol  :D   :D   :D   :D   :D

Tito L. Oracion

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #1849 on: February 15, 2012, 04:35:40 AM »
SIGNING OFF EVERYONE  :-X   :-X   :-X   :-X   :-X   :-X   :-X   :-X
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 :-* :'(


Magluvin

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #1850 on: February 15, 2012, 04:37:50 AM »
Kick the Pizza!   lol  Bad pizza

Teets. Can you tell us some of your favorite ingredients for the Kick Pizza?  :o :o :o :o

Just to keep up with the status quo.   ;)

I knew you were not going away.  Cuz Your Not A Quitter!   ;D


Mags

Tito L. Oracion

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #1851 on: February 15, 2012, 06:10:45 AM »
Kick the Pizza!   lol  Bad pizza

Teets. Can you tell us some of your favorite ingredients for the Kick Pizza?  :o :o :o :o

Just to keep up with the status quo.   ;)

I knew you were not going away.  Cuz Your Not A Quitter!   ;D


Mags


Sorry buddy i'm not a quitter but i'm a respectful man .  ;D


i'm a man of words, well, sometimes i'm failing just because of reasonable reason.  ;D


for me you are the best player here buddy  ;) 


buy buddy i'll just watch from now on, and watch when i only want to watch.  8)


Goodbye and this is sealed with a  :-*


lol


ps: i only eat the mushroom in the pizza co'z massive energy exploded in a room if you fail in some sense of common.  ;D


 ;D

Qwert

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #1852 on: February 15, 2012, 06:20:07 AM »
@Tito.
With the respect to you Tito, I hope you'll change your mind yet.
@All:
@ http://www.panaceauniversity.org/ I found a pdf "EVGRAY vibrator circuit". On the very first page of this doc: "Quote –I suggest that you all read page 304 and the section on resonance pg 340 from Tesla’s book "The Inventions, Researches, and Writings of Nikola Tesla"." What is on page 304 of "The Inventions..."? This:

"...plan is to charge condensers, from a direct or alternate-current source, preferably of high-tension, and to discharge them disruptively while observing well-known conditions necessary to maintain the oscillations of the current. In view of the general interest taken in high-frequency currents and effects producible by them, it seems to me advisable to dwell at some length upon this method of conversion. In order to give you a clear idea of the action, I will suppose that a continuous-current generator is employed, which is often very convenient. It is desirable that the generator should possess such high tension as to be able to break through a small air space. If this is not the case, then auxiliary means have to be resorted to, some of which will be indicated subsequently. When the condensers are charged to a certain potential, the air, or insulating space, gives way and a disruptive discharge occurs. There is then a sudden rush of current and generally a large portion of accumulated electrical energy spends itself. The condensers are thereupon quickly charged and the same process is repeated in more or less rapid succession. To produce such sadden rushes of current it is necessary to observe certain conditions. If the rate at which the condensers are discimrged is the same as that at which they are charged, then, clearly, in the assumed case the condensers do not come into play. If the rate of discharge be smaller than the rate of charging, then, again, the condensers cannot play an important part. But if, on the contrary, the rate of discharging is greater than that of charging, then a succession of rushes of current is obtained. It is evident that, if the rate at which the energy is dissipated by the discharge is very much greater than the rate of supply to the condensers, the sudden rushes will be comparatively few, with long-time intervals between. This alwavs occurs when a condenser of considerable capacity is charged by means of a comparatively small machine. If the rates of supply and dissipation are not widely different, then the rushes of current will be in quicker succession, and this the more, the more nearly equal both the rates are, until limitations incident to eacli case and depending upon a number of causes are reached. Thus we are able to obtain from a continuous-current generator as rapid a succession of discharges as we like. Of course, the higher the tension of the generator, the smaller need be the capacity of the condensers, and for this reason, principally, it is of advantage to employ a generator of very high tension. Besides, such a generator permits the attaining of greater rates of vibration."
Page 340 starts an article about resonance.
 

Tito L. Oracion

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #1853 on: February 15, 2012, 06:33:23 AM »
@Tito.
With the respect to you Tito, I hope you'll change your mind yet.
@All:
@ http://www.panaceauniversity.org/ I found a pdf "EVGRAY vibrator circuit". On the very first page of this doc: "Quote –I suggest that you all read page 304 and the section on resonance pg 340 from Tesla’s book "The Inventions, Researches, and Writings of Nikola Tesla"." What is on page 304 of "The Inventions..."? This:

"...plan is to charge condensers, from a direct or alternate-current source, preferably of high-tension, and to discharge them disruptively while observing well-known conditions necessary to maintain the oscillations of the current. In view of the general interest taken in high-frequency currents and effects producible by them, it seems to me advisable to dwell at some length upon this method of conversion. In order to give you a clear idea of the action, I will suppose that a continuous-current generator is employed, which is often very convenient. It is desirable that the generator should possess such high tension as to be able to break through a small air space. If this is not the case, then auxiliary means have to be resorted to, some of which will be indicated subsequently. When the condensers are charged to a certain potential, the air, or insulating space, gives way and a disruptive discharge occurs. There is then a sudden rush of current and generally a large portion of accumulated electrical energy spends itself. The condensers are thereupon quickly charged and the same process is repeated in more or less rapid succession. To produce such sadden rushes of current it is necessary to observe certain conditions. If the rate at which the condensers are discimrged is the same as that at which they are charged, then, clearly, in the assumed case the condensers do not come into play. If the rate of discharge be smaller than the rate of charging, then, again, the condensers cannot play an important part. But if, on the contrary, the rate of discharging is greater than that of charging, then a succession of rushes of current is obtained. It is evident that, if the rate at which the energy is dissipated by the discharge is very much greater than the rate of supply to the condensers, the sudden rushes will be comparatively few, with long-time intervals between. This alwavs occurs when a condenser of considerable capacity is charged by means of a comparatively small machine. If the rates of supply and dissipation are not widely different, then the rushes of current will be in quicker succession, and this the more, the more nearly equal both the rates are, until limitations incident to eacli case and depending upon a number of causes are reached. Thus we are able to obtain from a continuous-current generator as rapid a succession of discharges as we like. Of course, the higher the tension of the generator, the smaller need be the capacity of the condensers, and for this reason, principally, it is of advantage to employ a generator of very high tension. Besides, such a generator permits the attaining of greater rates of vibration."
Page 340 starts an article about resonance.


Wow, Your really the best reader i'ved ever had buddy.  :D [size=78%]  [/size]


but i think  i have already tackleing this thousands of time a long time ago already. am i correct ?
not as detailed as this one but very easy to grasp in my way.


bye buddy take care. :)

Magluvin

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #1854 on: February 15, 2012, 06:35:40 AM »
Ok Pizza, Tito, Teets, Tits(someone said that once ;]) Oracian, Otits, and matrix.

Thanks.  ;)

Just in the last part of winding my transformer. took a break. Winding by hand and jig.

I used a core and bobbin from a UPS power supply and soaked it in laquer thinner for 2 days and separated the core and removed the old windings from the factory bobbin.  There were 2 flat windings in there.  ;]

Anyways, the secondary, wound on bobbin first, is 35 turns of .025 wire, 1 layer.

The trifi input and shorted bifi is going to be about 6 layers of 3x .015.  About 29 individual turns per layer of the bifi and 15 turns each layer for the input(kicker winding, wound along side of the bifi turns.

Will have pics tomorrow, of the sec and the primary tri.  ;]

Then figure out what freq she wants to run at.

Mags

Magluvin

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #1855 on: February 15, 2012, 07:07:55 AM »
ok, goin for 8 layers. Thought 6 would be near full, but looks good for 8. It all has to fit inside the E ferrite core to put it all together.Its going nice and neat.

If this winding doesnt work out, will go finer wire on the trifi next time. The freq may be really high due to low capacitance of only so many turns side by side. But inductance will be higher than an air core, so, we will see.

Mags

Magluvin

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #1856 on: February 15, 2012, 08:22:20 AM »
Looks like 10 layers will fit.  ;]

Look at Titos pic below, imagine the input, top side of transformer, secondary 220vac side, has a shorted bifi included and the input wires are the 3rd strand of the trifi.

This in a standard transformer can be many turns. Here times 3 strands.  :o

So the relay charges the input then releases, and the field collapse is the kick.  ;)   Coil replaces spark gap.  ;D

Now, with a standard transformer, imagine this circuit working without a working resonance. :'(

And the resistor with the diode trickles (resistor) back to the battery through the input leads, and the 24v output can also charge batteries and run an inverter? Has to be a special transformer if true.

Plus there is the suggestion that Romero has used shorted bifi in his muller coils.

If so, then why not what im building?   :o :o :o    Hope.

Thanks Titos for 2 years of happy sad happy sad and then mostly happy.  Whether it works or not.  ;)   Really.

Mags

forest

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #1857 on: February 15, 2012, 10:45:03 AM »
Looks like 10 layers will fit.  ;]

Look at Titos pic below, imagine the input, top side of transformer, secondary 220vac side, has a shorted bifi included and the input wires are the 3rd strand of the trifi.

This in a standard transformer can be many turns. Here times 3 strands.  :o

So the relay charges the input then releases, and the field collapse is the kick.  ;)   Coil replaces spark gap.  ;D

Now, with a standard transformer, imagine this circuit working without a working resonance. :'(

And the resistor with the diode trickles (resistor) back to the battery through the input leads, and the 24v output can also charge batteries and run an inverter? Has to be a special transformer if true.

Plus there is the suggestion that Romero has used shorted bifi in his muller coils.

If so, then why not what im building?   :o :o :o    Hope.

Thanks Titos for 2 years of happy sad happy sad and then mostly happy.  Whether it works or not.  ;)   Really.

Mags


yes is good to have  pizza with 3 indegrients. trifillar pizza  ;D  i would replace batteries with bank of caps why ? because you have to take it very carefully from start with capacitors then with batteries
anyway,recall Richard Willis first attempts ? dead battery in armored metal box  :o

forest

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #1858 on: February 15, 2012, 10:54:30 AM »
I have one bad feeling. Ferrite ! I see Tito used iron core transformer, but looking on another thread  ::)  here ferrite may cause bad radiation depending of ingredients and frequency. I'd love to use them because I have collected few yoke cores from old monitors. :-\ :-\


Teeets , help us here  ???  Also a way to convert kick into current via resistor is pure magic, seems that carbon blocl or just a big pencil is better then those crappy resistors from shop  >:(

Magluvin

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« Reply #1859 on: February 15, 2012, 07:04:41 PM »
Hey Forest

Im going with the ferrite here just for low power testing. From what I know, E cores have less saturation compared to a bobbin ferrite and toroid cores, of which we can consider the monitor yolk as a bobbin. The toroid cores have low emi wound as a toroid, but not wound as a bobbin, in Stiveps case it is wound as both.

 Its the emi that may be causing the headaches. ;]

I dont expect to go much above 50khz, such as freq in the areas used in switching power supplies..   Hopefully above 20khz, audio freq. but will be fine with below 20k if it works. Im hoping for lower than 50k as I have many more turns than what was on the core originally. Hope

I dont know what the capacitance is yet of the bifi, will know after work after I terminate the windings to the posts. Was up past 3am, had to sleep. I also dont know if I measure capacitance and inductance, if or how shorting  the ends of the series bifi will affect these parameters and the freq of oscillation. So calculation might falter as compared to reality.

Be back later with the pics of the windings. Nothing exciting.  :o ;)

Mags