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Tito L. Oracion

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #840 on: February 13, 2011, 07:24:07 AM »
@ sir wattsup

                   I just want to give thanks to you sir for neutralizing everything here.  ;D

That's why I really admire you and respect you sir.  :)

and because of that i really deserve some punishment because of my behavior.

but don't worry sir i will not give anymore idea so that no one will quarrel me in this forum anymore ;D

thanks again sir  ;D

Tito L. Oracion

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #841 on: February 13, 2011, 08:56:29 AM »
hi everyone reading this thread,

forget everything in a moment i just want all of you to know that

using SILVER WIRE will give us best result ;)

goodbye and i'll now going to hide  ;D

ramset

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #842 on: February 13, 2011, 04:12:22 PM »
Tito
I really don't have a problem with You,I have a problem with who you say you are!

A "practicing Christian"

If you truly do have a device that can save lives[a soul],even just one life[one soul]!
And you choose to make money instead of saving the life [soul].
You are absolutely kidding your self...,and just because the ground hasn't opened up and swallowed you doesn;t make your position correct!
Don't preach gospel out of one side of your mouth and condemn to death, souls you could save out the other side of your mouth.
  I'm sure you prayed for this ,back when you were searching?,now you got what you prayed for,A HUGE responsibility!
Life or death ,Saved or lost!

SOULS ....................
A tool to save millions!

Early missionaries saved countless souls with technology.

This could work the same way for you!
Or you could walk by fear !

Silver?
How about 30 pieces ?
Chet

ramset

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #843 on: February 13, 2011, 04:57:59 PM »



                                       Luke 12:48

forest

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #844 on: February 19, 2011, 08:12:19 PM »
OK EVERYONE PLEASE LISTEN  :'(

In this thread, the questions should be:

a) How to convert small kicks into big kicks, this is known already ok? now!

CAPACITOR, for example with Avramenko plug and grounded from one leg. BUT it is not as efficient as expected. Tito ,is there a better way to store many small kicks in capacitor ?
Also here is my question : we CAN have many various signals various frequencies  running down the single wire to Avramenko plug. Would it handle all at once ? I would rather try to find other method without using diode which is the weakest point here.

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b) The second is How to convert one kick into multiple kicks  ???

Now! that is simple ok, if you can't get that!, I don't know to you!!!!@!@#@#$#@

sample of one kick into multiple kicks :=> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hm3O3jRKW4&feature=related
i am sure that no one is prohibiting us to add many more disk ok?.

Like this one=> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fldu5l8_Ips&feature=related
oh gussssssh this is ovious!  :o


THAT'S ALL ????! Are those two (a and b) sufficient to get OU ? I can see it but my faith is not so strong  :'( to build another not working crap


P.S. Could somebody draw for me how to get back-emf from single flyback with a diode back to battery ?


MrMag

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #845 on: February 19, 2011, 09:47:04 PM »
When will you guys stop being fooled by the Tito. He talks out of his ass and reminds me of IST. He doesn't have anything and if he did he wouldn't share it anyways.

forest

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #846 on: February 20, 2011, 12:14:12 AM »

forest

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #847 on: February 20, 2011, 12:25:33 AM »

gyulasun

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #848 on: February 20, 2011, 12:32:44 AM »
....

P.S. Could somebody draw for me how to get back-emf from single flyback with a diode back to battery ?

Hi forest,

Here are two links to your question:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=4419.msg97648#msg97648

http://www.energeticforum.com/inductive-resistor/4314-cop-17-heater-rosemary-ainslie.html#post56075

Gyula

forest

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #849 on: February 20, 2011, 04:00:25 PM »
I think we took the wrong way. May I propose the following new approach to find the solution ?

ONE QUESTION PER THREAD and very precise. Means that for this thread we need to find ENERGY AMPLIFICATION and we should propose EXPERIMENT after a while of theoretical discussion.
Experiment must be of obvious usability for ordinary usage , stated by a question related to the topic.

I propose:  I need to boil a 1 litre of water for a coffee/tea for my family using electric kettle.
How to get 2200W of usable electrical power during 4 minutes required to boil 1 litre of water using 12V 7Ah sealed lead acid battery and ENERGY AMPLIFICATION process , without depleting battery (small energy loss is allowed) ?

Please :
1. Propose technic of energy amplification.
2. Propose math for energy computation.
3. Propose circuit.

Let's begin serious work.

forest

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #850 on: February 21, 2011, 09:23:03 PM »
Ok,time to compute something.

1. Technic of energy amplification to use : capacitor discharge.
 Main problem : how to charge faster then discharge rate ?


2. Some crude math  ;D
2200W = 2200 J/s  (or 528000J per 4 minutes)

I assume 230V 50Hz current, that means 50 cycles or 100 impulses per second (one positive and one negative per cycle). It gives 22J per impulse. Huge.
To impulse the same using a capacitor  250V rated  we have to choose:
E=0.5*C*U^2 (energy in cap) -> C=2*(E/U^2)=2*(22J/250V^2)=704uF
Huge.Ugly.

But...what if we could rise rate of impulses to 22khz ? That means 22000 impulses per second.
2200J/22000=0.1J per impulse

C=2*(0.1J/250V^2)=3.2uF.

Still a lot but here I made assumption :
Energy in capacitors is the same if those (!)  capacitors are connected in series or in parallel.
Is that true ? I don't know, but it sounds good.

So we could take 4  1uF/400V capacitors and charge them in series, then discharge at parallel at rate >= 22khz.

In series those capacitors would form 0.25uF capacitor rated at 1600V.

From above I conclude that if we could charge 0.25uF capacitor to 1000V or above at the rate 220khz or more (500khz for example) then such amplification would be possible.


Questions :
How to charge those capacitors at the rate >220khz ?
What is better to discharge them ? A rotary spark gap at 1000V when connected in series or a mosfet at 250V when connected in  parallel ?

forest

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #851 on: February 21, 2011, 09:52:54 PM »
Some thoughts :
Discharging when connected in series using spark gap, I expect oscillation happen so the rate may be lowered many times IMHO. Also the output current may be safe cold electricity.The other problem is impedance : if output current would be of very high frequency oscillations then would electric kettle work with it ?

forest

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #852 on: February 21, 2011, 09:59:28 PM »
Continuation :

when discharging in parallel 3 mosfets are needed plus one for discharging process actually.

Tito L. Oracion

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #853 on: February 22, 2011, 11:04:43 AM »
Hey Mr.mag Don't mind my ass it's mine! you mind yours that's yours!  :-\





see the picture below there is a more better solution to this.

forest

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #854 on: February 22, 2011, 01:17:48 PM »
Hey Mr.mag Don't mind my ass it's mine! you mind yours that's yours!  :-\





see the picture below there is a more better solution to this.


Here is the question. Are those diodes required to charge capacitor from bemf ? Tesla didn't have diodes.Hmm... Bedini is using one diode only. Strange.