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Offline Qwert

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #825 on: February 11, 2011, 05:21:21 AM »
WEll yes buoyancy but how to use that effectively is different story, anyway thanks  :)
Sorry, Tito. The environment you are living in, is called UTOPIA. And there is only one guy who could help you there: Jesus Christ.

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #826 on: February 11, 2011, 05:28:42 AM »
HHMMMMmmmmmmmm.
The Lords word according to Tito

"IT IS MINE"

Don't remember anything like that in my Bible?
Your on the wrong side of the word Teets,
you've switched teams!

Chet

Your conclusion is wrong again chet, will i have to use 'it doesn't mean' again? mine is mine yours is yours its okay to me if you don't share it, i'm happy where you've come up ok. that's yours.  :)

i think it is you who is in wrong switch, you might electrocuted.  ;D

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #827 on: February 11, 2011, 05:32:38 AM »
Sorry, Tito. The environment you are living in, is called UTOPIA. And there is only one guy who could help you there: Jesus Christ.

See! it is Jesus Christ that can save where ever i am. This life is just life so don't be so bother there is still a better one waiting. and everything there is free.

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #827 on: February 11, 2011, 05:32:38 AM »
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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #828 on: February 11, 2011, 05:41:52 AM »
Tito
Someday soon your secret will be worthless!

The way it should be!

Chet

Offline Magluvin

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #829 on: February 11, 2011, 05:44:04 AM »
Chets

We can assume he never had anything to begin with.

Mags

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #830 on: February 11, 2011, 08:32:35 AM »
Remember what I posted about water pressure on hole at the bottom of container. It may be that the missing puzzle is the floating piston above. Its weight will add to the pressure of water column and make more spin on generator turbine.Generator is powering the pump which recycles water back to upper container. The secon missing puzzle is how to build such piston which must be heavy and still floating on water surface.
Here is a tricky way  ;D

Make a piston empty with a hole on bottom and a valve, make additional tube through the piston not in contain with empty area inside but protruding directly to the bottom and second hole and second valve.
Valves need to be electrically or mechanically opened/closed.

I would try to draw schematic and explain how it works.

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« Reply #831 on: February 11, 2011, 09:13:57 AM »
Hmm..quite complicated but it may work.
A1,A2,A3 are electrical valves. B is a valve which allow only air to escape not water.
C is a  support released by electrical impulse.

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #832 on: February 11, 2011, 04:10:04 PM »
Oh boy oh boy oh boy. How can a thread get this long with little to no progress. And ironically the ones who try to make progress get shot down.

Tito, people like you are dangerous on the Internet, you need serious psychological help because you have some serious disorder which you are only making worse with every post. Your attention seeking narcissistic personality disorder should be treated by a professional.

The bad thing about the Internet is that everyone can use it, people with some serious issues or a traumatic past get the chance to project their issues online in all kind of strange forms. It takes simple common sense to see this in this thread.

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« Reply #833 on: February 11, 2011, 06:17:16 PM »
Continuation...

1.Initial stage : piston is filled with water, all valves are closed ,upper container is filled with water from A3 up to C.
2. C is released and A3 is opened. Water flow by own gravity and piston weight pressure.
3. Water is flowing through A3 valve turning turbine which generate electric current powering water pump . Water is pumped above piston ; piston weight is bigger and bigger in time, water pressure is almost not changing (compare it to the gravity only when water pressure on valve depends on water level above)
4.When piston touches bottom of upper container A2 valve is opened and water from inside of the piston is escaping.Then A2 and A3 are closed and water flows through then hole across piston and fills the space below piston (which now empty) pressing piston up.

This schematic need a lot of improvements to convert most of valves to mechanical devices eliminating as much electric energy usage as possible.Anyway,it's just a theoretical schematic.

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #833 on: February 11, 2011, 06:17:16 PM »
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Offline Tito L. Oracion

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #834 on: February 12, 2011, 11:28:31 AM »
Oh boy oh boy oh boy. How can a thread get this long with little to no progress. And ironically the ones who try to make progress get shot down.

Tito, people like you are dangerous on the Internet, you need serious psychological help because you have some serious disorder which you are only making worse with every post. Your attention seeking narcissistic personality disorder should be treated by a professional.

The bad thing about the Internet is that everyone can use it, people with some serious issues or a traumatic past get the chance to project their issues online in all kind of strange forms. It takes simple common sense to see this in this thread.

hi bro  ;D

The way i see your comment i think it is you who need psychological help.
you reading capability is not enough man! mags continue his work in other thread, is that ok now to you good reader?!

Yes! it takes simple common sense if sense is common to you brilliant reader!
i'm not seeking attention here, i just shared a little info! got it?, best reader?, huh!

You know what? a person can be know if he is intelligent or nothing, the way he talk and make his words if they are sensible or not!.

One more thing bro! You need to eat more BROCOLI for your eyesight. ;D
« Last Edit: February 12, 2011, 12:24:38 PM by Tito L. Oracion »

Offline Magluvin

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #835 on: February 12, 2011, 06:56:51 PM »
Well thats a great Christian attitude you have there Tito. And it shows.  ;)

Have you ever considered that maybe it is YOUR grammar, or the way YOU convey your thoughts, and that this may be why most ANYBODY doesnt get what you are saying? HMMM?

Mags

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #835 on: February 12, 2011, 06:56:51 PM »
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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #836 on: February 12, 2011, 08:14:59 PM »
First of all my critique of the water tanks design was only a critique in the way it was shown in the drawings. I never tried to accuse anyone of trying to divert the thread, etc.

Guys, you should try and exercise some restraint in how and what you post because I feel you guys post on a whim of momentary inspiration. Think hard on what you are trying to say. There was no need to denigrate Tito for bringing up an idea. An idea is only that. An idea.

So here you go at my crack at the best possible method to work out his water tank system. First of all, I get paid big bucks to work out water problems. That is my profession.

The top tank has a second tank upside down with the top exiting into a laminar flow tube that is connected to three pipe, one is wider then the next but all have valves on them V1, V2 and V3. During tests only one of the valves will be used to find the right riser tube diameter and valve opening required to make the water loop.

On the top tank you have a bottom flexible tube (T4) that goes up then down to an low adjustment valve (V4). The flexible upcurve of T4 can be set at a variable height over the exit level to adjust for the maximum head available for emptying the top tank into the bottom tank via the V4 final adjustment.

With such a set-up you would be able to tinker with all the variables to find the best optimal setting to make the water flow upwards from the bottom tank, into the top tank and back down again.

Now, if it works or not is always up for debate, but at least with such a set-up, you have a pretty nice toy to play around with and LEARN. That's why we are here, RIGHT? We're not here to cut each other up into pieces. The world has already mastered that one.

wattsup

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #837 on: February 13, 2011, 12:36:55 AM »
Now, if it works or not is always up for debate, but at least with such a set-up, you have a pretty nice toy to play around with and LEARN. That's why we are here, RIGHT? We're not here to cut each other up into pieces. The world has already mastered that one.

wattsup
You don't need to be an engineer to see this system will not work. If one doesn't see that, he (she) must start the basic education in an elementary school.
This system can work only if the bottom tank is hermetically closed, then heated up.
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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #838 on: February 13, 2011, 04:08:48 AM »
You don't have to be an engineer to see this system will not work. If one doesn't see that, he (she) must start the basic education in an elementary school.
This system can work only if the bottom tank is hermetically closed, then heated up.

@Qwert

No need to get overly my man.

This is only a mind exercise. The only reason I went this far is because there is a small small window of opportunity in this design that could work if the right mix of top tank height, top inverse tank size and riser tube diameters are just right, this could produce an erratic but functional loop. It has to do with the suction developed in the inverted tank versus the head force available in the top tank that want to empty out into the bottom tank, where the inverted tank is set deep enough into the top tank to allow or create a generous but controlled suction. The top tank would have to be on a lift to vary its height versus the lower tank to obtain the right head range, otherwise regardless of the other variables, this would never have a chance of working. If anyone every tries this, make sure the top tank is adjustable in height compared to the bottom tank to find the right level. There will be a height that will move the flow in the direction of those arrows. If this does not work, it will be the closest you could get before thinking of adding anything else.

Of course don't expect it to turn a turbine generator or anything of that sort. But the mind exercise is rather enjoyable and a good change from the coil pulsing devices I usually do. I just wanted to give Tito's idea a fair shake and it was enjoyable.

wattsup

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #839 on: February 13, 2011, 06:48:12 AM »
@Qwert

No need to get overly my man.

This is only a mind exercise. The only reason I went this far is because there is a small small window of opportunity in this design that could work if the right mix of top tank height, top inverse tank size and riser tube diameters are just right, this could produce an erratic but functional loop. It has to do with the suction developed in the inverted tank versus the head force available in the top tank that want to empty out into the bottom tank, where the inverted tank is set deep enough into the top tank to allow or create a generous but controlled suction. The top tank would have to be on a lift to vary its height versus the lower tank to obtain the right head range, otherwise regardless of the other variables, this would never have a chance of working. If anyone every tries this, make sure the top tank is adjustable in height compared to the bottom tank to find the right level. There will be a height that will move the flow in the direction of those arrows. If this does not work, it will be the closest you could get before thinking of adding anything else.

Of course don't expect it to turn a turbine generator or anything of that sort. But the mind exercise is rather enjoyable and a good change from the coil pulsing devices I usually do. I just wanted to give Tito's idea a fair shake and it was enjoyable.

wattsup
the only way to get the fluid to flow into the top tank is to lower the fluid level in the top tank below the level of the bottom tank.
see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siphon
the outlet is always below the inlet
diameter has nothing to do with it.
your mind exercise lacks basic information.
get yourself hoses buckets etc and try it out for your self.
fritznien

 

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