Language: 
To browser these website, it's necessary to store cookies on your computer.
The cookies contain no personal information, they are required for program control.
  the storage of cookies while browsing this website, on Login and Register.

GDPR and DSGVO law

Storing Cookies (See : http://ec.europa.eu/ipg/basics/legal/cookies/index_en.htm ) help us to bring you our services at overunity.com . If you use this website and our services you declare yourself okay with using cookies .More Infos here:
https://overunity.com/5553/privacy-policy/
If you do not agree with storing cookies, please LEAVE this website now. From the 25th of May 2018, every existing user has to accept the GDPR agreement at first login. If a user is unwilling to accept the GDPR, he should email us and request to erase his account. Many thanks for your understanding.
Amazon Warehouse Deals ! Now even more Deep Discounts ! Check out these great prices on slightly used or just opened once only items.I always buy my gadgets via these great Warehouse deals ! Highly recommended ! Many thanks for supporting OverUnity.com this way.

User Menu

Plug Heater

Powerbox

Smartbox

3D Solar

3D Solar Panels

DC2DC converter

Micro JouleThief

FireMatch

FireMatch

CCKnife

CCKnife

CCTool

CCTool

Magpi Magazine

Magpi Magazine Free Rasberry Pi Magazine

Battery Recondition

Battery Recondition

Arduino

Ultracaps

YT Subscribe

Gravity Machines

Tesla-Ebook

Magnet Secrets

Lindemann Video

Navigation

Products

Products

WaterMotor kit

Statistics


  • *Total Posts: 508928
  • *Total Topics: 15176
  • *Online Today: 44
  • *Most Online: 103
(December 19, 2006, 11:27:19 PM)
  • *Users: 3
  • *Guests: 18
  • *Total: 21

Author Topic: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION  (Read 2268723 times)

Offline Qwert

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 937
Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #450 on: October 10, 2010, 08:15:18 AM »
AND IT IS FOR SALE FOR JUST $10M USD SORRY.
It's a lot of money. And it is probably worth of this sum if it works as you say; I have no reason to not believe you. But, just be realistic: who can afford this? It is much smarter to sign a contract with a manufacturer to earn a percentage per piece manufactured, or so. This is an advice which experts give to inventors.
You can find good info on this matter as well as on protection ways, just googling it, perhaps this site has such info.  But I think, disclosing your invention on an open source like this one, is also an option and this way does not prohibits you from your ownership, especialy when you clearly state that your intention is to sell your idea.

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #450 on: October 10, 2010, 08:15:18 AM »

Offline forest

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3848
Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #451 on: October 10, 2010, 12:18:36 PM »
Sir Tito,

Your tips are GOLD and SILVER ! I salute you.  :)


Don't be disappointed please. Knowing something and building something are two different things.
And yes...we are lazy  ;D, but you should know that it's hard to make rotating circuit controller from scrap parts - need a lot of imagination. I cannot for example resolve a way to glue magnets to CD-ROM disc to sustain 3000rpm from my very old Sony CD. It has a small DC motor (one of the first CD-ROM players on the market, newer have 3-phase AC motors), but this motor is so small that I dare not to disassemble it so I don't know how it is made (I heard that so fast DC motors have not commutator  :'( )

Be patient - we are taught to close circuit in the way that is killing the dipole that's the source of problems.

To re assume :
1. Capacitor does not store charge in the way we think of it (not electrons!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ckpQW9sdUg

2. To not killing the dipole we have to  discharge capacitor separately , when not connected to the source.

can we charge capacitor the same way ?  ::)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_f1p6V1Gb8&feature=related

 is that a "hands kick method" ?   ;D what is a magic inside this motor ?

Kapanadze he has nice green box , I guess it has be made from aluminium and painted green
he is killing the dipole but I saw one video when one guy was kicked by a switch  ;D

well I still have many problems with coil and capacitor orientation and how to place cables around them  ::)

my starting point is here : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9irQJ6mivs&feature=related
it is similar to igniter and ozone patent
I must  find a way to accumulate more kicks in this video circuit  because disconnecting capacitor every way after one kick makes to small gain, I think from your last tip that DC motor can do it fine  :-*
can we divide circuit into parts , like 2 for example , to analyse separately ?  ::)



Offline ramset

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6438
Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #452 on: October 10, 2010, 03:22:34 PM »
Sir Forest,

Very nice movies!
Can you explain what kind of magnets you want to "glue"?And how you want them glued[polarity and such]?
Will RPM be specific to a Timing?[frequency]

Can they be mechanically attached [ nylon screws and glue]

Very nice movies !

Tito used to give us movies too!!,but I can see where you are going with yours!

And of course, the Now famous Mags [big shot "wiki" guy] always makes his own movies![good ones].

Chet

PS
Sir Tito
Hopefully good things can happen now!
Thank you "Sir"
And BTW
I used to think you were a no g#@# st^%&$#$ guy!
But now I find that sometimes I want to shake your hand and give you a Hug.[a man hug!![not girly hug]]

PPS Sir Forest,
I shared your Sunday morning movies over here!

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/6521-dont-kill-dipole-3.html#post112760
« Last Edit: October 10, 2010, 04:05:27 PM by ramset »

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #452 on: October 10, 2010, 03:22:34 PM »
Sponsored links:




Offline wattsup

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2627
    • Spin Conveyance Theory - For a New Perspective...
Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #453 on: October 10, 2010, 09:05:51 PM »
@Tito

I see you have not learned anything from @otto's swift departure from this Earth. So I guess you think you will be living forever. That you are the exception to the rule and you have all the time in the world to accomplish this dollarama festival you are running after.

So I guess you do not realize that even if you came out with a total disclosure of your OU works, that within 1 week it will be replicated and within 1-2 months it would be rendered totally obsolete once the basic function is understood, people will take this and make so many variations. And that obsolescence is a good thing that keeps people alive. It is a good thing to be known as the seed and be respected and even recompensed. But in order to realize this, you have to have faith. Those that do not have faith have kept their secrets close to their heart, but even their heart has to stop sometime and now they are gone forever.

So keep playing this game if it makes you feel superior, or invincible or eternal. Reality will win in the end and as long as the ride was immersed in your illusion, I guess it makes things OK.

But if you need some money, just make a small unit that shows overunity and send it to @stefan to be entered for the OU Prize. There is some money there just for these reasons. I am not saying your life is not difficult and that you have no need for money, etc. But the way you think you should do things is simply wrong, chock full of danger and you risk losing everything in the process. The guys with the millions are not stupid. They know you are hungry and they will wean you dry as a bone before you see any money. This is not the way to live my friend. Think about it.

@all

In the Tesla Patent there is only one main variable to the design. That is how to create the make/break so it will last more then an hour at best. Everything else is laid out for anyone to see. The explanations of how the circuit "really" works is also on the forum mainly under the The Tesla Project thread that is chock full of goodies. Just use your search feature creatively and you will find the answers. The relationship between coil and capacitor size and make/break frequency used is very important. The lower the frequency, the bigger the coils should be to be as closely timed to their charge/discharge rates.

Offline Tito L. Oracion

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2147
« Last Edit: October 11, 2010, 12:53:57 PM by Tito L. Oracion »

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #454 on: October 11, 2010, 11:43:21 AM »
Sponsored links:




Offline Tenbatsu

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 38
Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #455 on: October 11, 2010, 02:08:49 PM »
Magluvin, any update on your experiments?

This thread is desperately lacking your input at the moment.

Offline Magluvin

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5767
Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #456 on: October 11, 2010, 06:36:40 PM »
Im still around.   Had some issues with how things are working.  My whole weekend was shot.  Bang bang


I am picking up some parts I need tonight and back at it.

I know Teets says " dont you see the amplification in the igniter pat"    and im trying to.    I see the input being held back by the large inductor, as to where there seems to be a constant current flow from the input. But the short outputs have me thinking that over the period of time from pulse to pulse, It looks like the continuous input could add up to the total of the output as it is short. Maybe Im wrong, and being that the output pulses are so big and close, that the load sees it as a continuous flow, depending on the load.

Like if we have 10w continuous in and pulses of 1kw out, are we sure that the time span of output is larger than 100th of the input?   I got a cap on the primary which seems to help prolong the output, but it lowered my peak a lot.

I also took some time to read some of the thread Watts recommended above and it does go over a lot of what we are going for here.

Be back after work


Mags

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #456 on: October 11, 2010, 06:36:40 PM »
Sponsored links:




Offline Magluvin

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5767
Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #457 on: October 12, 2010, 03:10:18 AM »
Tito is right. We should stop what we are doing and just go with Stubblefield coils.  Its really cool.

Not


Not that the air battery isnt very cool. I like it a lot. But there must be some life expectancy from it.  Its not a 100 amper nimh D cell.

Maybe there is a connection to what we are trying to do here. Im stickin with what we came for.

I know Teets is  wanting us to stubble a bit, but I gotta keep on track. I dont always have a lot of time for what Im working on.

One Mocopozo vid uses the coils as flywheels.  1 being switched and the others on the loads are being kicked to drive the loads. I like Moco's stuff. Zeropoint321 turned me on to his vids a while back..

Still workin on it guys. Will post the second I have a vid goin.  ;]

Mags

Offline Magluvin

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5767
Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #458 on: October 12, 2010, 05:13:48 AM »

See SM made use of stubblefield tech in one of his tpu, cause a very small energy like a .5v is enough to amplify.



Well, if we had a small solar cell, we could charge a battery and use that as input also, and during the day have another tiny solar panel running the circuit.  Thats all fine and dandy. Stick a penny and a nickle in an Orange and we have something to work with.  Its the Amplifying that we are after.  If we can amplify, we dont need the source anymore, or at least we should be able to replenish the source from the amplified output.

I get the point that we can make a small voltage into a high voltage.      Could it be that the short stout primary is the key?  Could it be that if set up with a cap to oscillate, it is a hard field to be damped by a secondary because it has so much going for it, and so little resistance and few turns?

I have been looking at some variations of coils I have that are of very short turns and varying stoutness.
Ok the source never sees the load directly, only to use an inductor to induce a high voltage charge in a cap at a low current rate from the source.. Now probably any cap discharge into a low ohm will be disruptive of sorts. So 500v from a tiny cap will set off an lc resonant circuit, being of the primary and cap. Should the cap stay switched ON with the primary for a bit to continue oscillations? (this is what I am fighting with in my setup now)

Now that MIT vid with the dissectable jar cap was astonishing.   If we were to just use a wire from the inside to the outside of the glass, would there be electron flow in the wire when it discharges? Just a jiggle?  Is there electrons freed from the plates stuck to the glass?  Are there more electrons on one plate than the other when removed, yet no charge differential between them when dissected? Questions questions.  Caps   no electron exchange. Just the force Luke.  We are now in the 4th dimension.

Never Kill The Dipole      Does that mean never a discharge from the Dipole? Or only kills after a very long time?
Are we to just use the source as a spring (jiggle) and it is never depleted?   

I understand that you are trying to show us what can be used as a source Teets, But if we never kill the Dipole, then what does it matter what source we use?   Amplify?  Dats da quekstion.

I wonder if the stubble works in a vacuum?   Stubble Hubble Bubble.


Mags

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #458 on: October 12, 2010, 05:13:48 AM »
3D Solar Panels

Offline Magluvin

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5767
Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #459 on: October 12, 2010, 06:05:08 AM »
Hmm  Moco has something. I didnt see the cap on the load section.

I did a sim using 1 load light bulb. Looks good.  The inputs are a pulsed type that go along with the output. But the output is 5 times more.

Well  if this is it, then Teets has given it here.  =]

This will be a lil project I can whip together pretty quick. 

I am going to take notes on what I have together now and disassemble and put this baby to work.

Here is the code

$ 1 5.0E-6 5.459815003314424 50 5.0 43
w 384 192 384 464 0
c 592 464 592 192 0 8.87E-9 -9.34392179615871
l 592 464 384 464 0 0.0020 -0.1979942080069645
v 752 464 752 192 0 0 40.0 20.0 0.0 0.0 0.5
w 752 464 592 464 0
l 752 192 704 192 0 0.0021000000000000003 0.1508358744494478
181 384 192 592 192 0 22216.037624033113 0.67 7.65 0.4 0.4
w 640 192 704 192 0
159 704 288 704 352 0 0.1 1.0E10
w 704 288 704 192 0
w 704 352 704 416 0
w 704 416 752 464 0
w 688 320 656 320 0
R 656 320 656 256 0 2 496.0 5.0 0.0 0.0 0.1
d 640 192 592 192 1 0.805904783
o 3 16 1 291 74.82888383134222 9.765625E-55 0 -1
o 6 16 1 291 299.3155353253689 9.765625E-55 1 -1


Mags

Offline Magluvin

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5767
Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #460 on: October 12, 2010, 06:37:14 AM »
Here is another Moco circuit with 1.2v source and tuned a bit more to just over 10 times out than in


Mags

Free Energy | searching for free energy and discussing free energy

Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #460 on: October 12, 2010, 06:37:14 AM »
3D Solar Panels

Offline Magluvin

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5767
Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #461 on: October 12, 2010, 07:08:52 AM »
So this is what "kickin" is Teets?   just kickin the inductor along to keep the flow going? FEMF
Hmm  Thats what we have been talking about boys, the inductor flywheel, with a lil bit of jiggle in the load section. That I have also brought up earlier, if we have a resonant circuit, if it is damped by the load, it may only get a few cycles, but if one of those cycles is as big or bigger than the input pulse, the the rest of the waves are free, the few we have left before the next input pulse. This is good.  Its seemingly a lot clearer.

It seems as though we could get these functions to work mechanically.  Really, Im not seeing energy from the vacuum, Im seeing energy of the function.

I like this Moco setup.  I have some Tesla circuits of different sorts from Colorado Springs Notes that I need to gander at.

Well, its just a resistive(light bulb) load here, but it should prove valuable if it works. Gotta get some sleep, tomorrow is a new day. ;]

Mags

Offline forest

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3848
Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #462 on: October 12, 2010, 09:13:19 AM »
.

Offline forest

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3848
Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #463 on: October 12, 2010, 09:15:14 AM »
Mags

You are  ;D ;D  ;) just imagine a Tesla doing  discharge from capacitor

Why the hell he used so many ways to make it DISRUPTED ? Magnetic quenching, hot air,rotary controllers,multigap spark gaps etc

I think it was not clearly described in any thread . May I be right sir wattsup ?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b20z95XcaX8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdUzpCgAhmA&p=BB4978E4DAE172CC&playnext=1&index=31

Offline wattsup

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2627
    • Spin Conveyance Theory - For a New Perspective...
Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #464 on: October 12, 2010, 03:19:36 PM »
@forest

In many cases Tesla did not have the high voltage available to then discharge it directly into his coils. He had to first produce the high voltage from the voltage that was available to him either through a stand alone generator, a battery bank or directly off the mains, store it, then discharge it into his coils. The Tesla Ozone Patent is one means of economically generating high voltage. But like @erfinder once said, "who said you have to then just produce ozone". lol

The idea behind producing output is easy. The idea is to get the energy that is produced completely out of the production side and safely banked on the output side. The sooner the energy is removed from one side, then this energy can no longer work against the production side. The production side sees the output bank is empty so it can now recharge it fully from 0 to full again making each cycle as productive as possible. If the load side is consuming 80% of the production, then there is 20% that is always stagnant the production side now has to start at 21% to increase the bank again. But the production always starts at 0 so it has to reach 21% to now add 1 more to the output side. The idea is to keep the load away from the production so the production always sees a return resistance of 0.

I think @Tito is referring to the zener diode to accomplish such a separation but only once the production side has reached a minimal level. This then discharges into a separate holding system possibly through another voltage increasing method so the next cap tank can then hold higher voltage. But it is always left to some level of guess work.

One example of this uses simple switching to keep the input side far away from the load side. So let's say I will give you 1 volt forever. You can take that 1 volt in one second, or you can take 1 volts 10 times a second, or 1000 times a second. You will always have a 1 volt available for as fast as you want to catch it. But it is only 1 volt. So what do you do? I have made an animation some time ago to show such a switching scheme to catch that 1 volt, accumulate it, and pass it on to a next stage that is totally separate from the feed side. It all has to do with switching capacitors. This is a very tedious method but is shows the step by step of what is involved.

You can see it here;
http://purco.qc.ca/ftp/Wattsups%27%20stuff/voltage-grabber-circuit-VGC/
Just click on the gif file.

But here is the clincher. I could be totally off the track as far as @Titos device is concerned and this is the danger of discussing stuff on a Forum. Sometimes, someone opens his mouth and guys can then swing their attention to other avenues that just lead to dead ends. So please do not take what I am saying here too seriously. In a way, my stomach is full already with all the guesswork we went through with SM devices, and so many other mystery devices, and @Tito is just another source or reason for more guesswork. It's always the same thing. No one has the faith. Everyone only thinks of himself. Wow, I wonder where we would be if every man on Earth past and present lived that way. We'd be up Shits Creek without a paddle, actually without a boat.


 

OneLink