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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #345 on: September 29, 2010, 02:32:52 PM »
Two graphics to take into consideration. I am not sure about the zener cathode orientation.

I could be wrong though.

Jesus

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #345 on: September 29, 2010, 02:32:52 PM »

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #346 on: September 29, 2010, 04:13:34 PM »
Two graphics to take into consideration. I am not sure about the zener cathode orientation.

I could be wrong though.

Jesus


I like the second one! First may work or may not...hard to say...

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #347 on: September 29, 2010, 06:45:36 PM »
Two graphics to take into consideration. I am not sure about the zener cathode orientation.

I could be wrong though.

Jesus

 
In both circuits..
not any AC or DC currents can flow via the zeber-diode connection ...
Boh are nonsens. Sorry

G. Pese



P.S.



shorted and open circuits cant work

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #347 on: September 29, 2010, 06:45:36 PM »
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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #348 on: September 29, 2010, 07:47:35 PM »
yep they are not complete,but  every circuit need improvements  ;)
first we need to charge cap ...then coil..then zener..then bah ha ha ha ha  ;D

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #349 on: September 29, 2010, 08:43:49 PM »

In both circuits..
not any AC or DC currents can flow via the zeber-diode connection ...
Boh are nonsens. Sorry

G. Pese



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shorted and open circuits cant work

The pulse circuit close the open circuit and charge the capacitor, then it is suposed that the zener allows the flow and give a shot to the other transformer and part of the flow goes back as feedback.

Could you draw the improvements that the circuits need to work according to your expertize?

Jesus

Update

A good pulser could be the one that was done by @geotron:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=9551.msg252079#msg252079

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #349 on: September 29, 2010, 08:43:49 PM »
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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #350 on: September 29, 2010, 09:32:18 PM »
No, i cant, drawn an circuit for Energy ampöification.
Bu i can let you know, that both Ddrawn have in eny
electric or electroncs mo eny sense tat  Power (amlification or losses (!!)
can flow.
Gustav Pese

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #351 on: September 29, 2010, 10:33:07 PM »
No, i cant, drawn an circuit for Energy ampöification.
Bu i can let you know, that both Ddrawn have in eny
electric or electroncs mo eny sense tat  Power (amlification or losses (!!)
can flow.
Gustav Pese

www.alt-nrg.de/pese

Do you think that this other energy amplification circuit is wrong too?

Jesus

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #351 on: September 29, 2010, 10:33:07 PM »
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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #352 on: September 29, 2010, 11:21:13 PM »
@pese

You were right!

Jesus

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #353 on: September 29, 2010, 11:36:37 PM »
@pese

You were right!

Jesus
pls give attention

the circuit-loop (cap/zener) in the top-line,
is an open circuit that (will) connect the 1. (left) to the 2. part of transformer-coupled part..
BUT it need an SECOND wireing to have
an closed circuit that connet the 2 parts.


The ONE Wire line wit cap and zener is not enought ! !  (Ground-line ?)
An other connection mus comes in the circuit, so that (possibly) some current can flow over
the part in the top of schematics.

Pese


P.S. this is only an help, to make an little more sense to an
electronic circuit, BUT  , it is an lot more in,
that wil and acan NOT work.

You will find this , in your experience that you can
now start in an better way.


But in any way, i can not lead you to
"ampify energy"

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #353 on: September 29, 2010, 11:36:37 PM »
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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #354 on: September 29, 2010, 11:37:16 PM »
first one looks nice,not perfect just nice

questions:

is zener diode in good position ?
what is triggering zener diode ?

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #355 on: September 29, 2010, 11:39:02 PM »
why there is capacitor on feedback loop ?

I do not state I understand this circuit nor that it won't work
just for me a few elements are missing or misplaced, well maybe 2 ::)

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #355 on: September 29, 2010, 11:39:02 PM »
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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #356 on: September 29, 2010, 11:44:02 PM »
Do you think that this other energy amplification circuit is wrong too?

Jesus
This shown Diagramm  (BDX87 Darlington Transistor) is an very know, and usually shematic
that can uses as inverter.
Low voltages to any higher (or lower) voltages.

work on higher frequencies (usually 5000 to 20.000 Hertz  - in relation zo Cap and inductor/transformer CORE-material)
But in any way, no amplification the Power.

Only voltage can amplify (current go down.
Or transform the Voltages lower with higher currents.

In any Way the volt time amperes  = watt (power)


this exeed never the need input power to drive this.

Normal way about 90% effency

Gustav Pese

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Do not buy this Darlington Transistor. : use
2 normal transitors  and 2N3055 and Tip 31 (Bd241) instead

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #357 on: September 29, 2010, 11:52:21 PM »
Thank you @pese

first one looks nice,not perfect just nice

questions:

is zener diode in good position ?
what is triggering zener diode ?

You must test if it let the voltage through on this position, without reaching its activation voltage. If it does, switch it the other way and retest. 
A voltage that is less than its activation voltage should be blocked.

It supposed to be triggered by the rising voltage on the secondary coil that fills the cap to its capacity.

I must say here that I am just learning.

Update
why there is capacitor on feedback loop ?

I do not state I understand this circuit nor that it won't work
just for me a few elements are missing or misplaced, well maybe 2 ::)

I thought that it was needed there to protect the diode and the battery from the spark intensity.

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #358 on: September 30, 2010, 12:50:02 AM »
I liked Nieves circuit, but the zener was in the wrong direction. I have not tuned it in the least, just got it done.
But the zener does do the deed, at 480v threshold.
I will play more with this tonight.  But I wanted to share. =]

Mags

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #359 on: September 30, 2010, 01:42:25 AM »
Ok   took a bit of time, but here is something that looks good.   

Mags

 

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