in the dishcarge of the cap yes but if you start this unit with load it will take longer to produce the power and the load will keep it at an accaptable usage lvl from my experements anyway the way to unload the power slowly  would be to have a volage regluater current would be drawn as needed

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the hard part is to limit power , in other case device destroy itself
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can someone explain why there is 5khz hash in in tpu output ?

i would say for tolerences of the unit

i have lost what you are talking about forest

so you mean it can only be charged as high as load can draw ?

dont get how it relates to what your saying or trying to point out to me lol

Hi All
I have been so very busy for a few months. But my thinking cap is always on
I went through a bout of ou depression for a bit. Just burnt out on it all.

But the past few weeks have been good to me, i believe.

So far it is just a circuit on Circuit sim v1.5h     I have done some tests at low levels compared to sim at low levels and my results were very close.

It is funny that the sim programmer starts you off with an LRC circuit when you start the program. And that is what we are dealing with here in the circuit I will give today.

Now some of what is in this circuit may seem like too much to deal with for some, very high voltages, and the freq of operation can be varied depending on the values of components. This circuit will be operating at 1.6khz according to the sim

In this circuit we will be dealing with a cap 10uf that has a 50kv rating, if such a beast exists, that will be charged to about 40kv, from a 20kv source via a very simple circuit. Then that cap will be discharged into our LRC circuit, across the coil, getting the cycle going.

I used 15 .5ohm resistors as loads all in parallel after a series off 16 diodes, 2 rows of 8, each row allowing the oscillations to continue in the circuit and providing a form of voltage regulation for the load. About 7v and down as the oscillations diminish. This give each resistor about 100w each for a bit of time. Over 1500w from 1 kick.

The circuit, when the switches are timed just right, will be close to 400kv working.   Mind you, these are just the values that I have imposed to give wow factor.  All can be scaled down and fine tuned to be what you want.
But the low freq had is impressive here.  Im not much interested in mhz and broadcasting, for now.

You can mess with the circuit as you wish.

I am going to upload the code for import to the sim here and the next post will be on how to operate and explain.
Get the circuit sim here     http://falstad.com/circuit/    The code will be in not pad format     .txt

Just for starters, putting the cursor over each component will show the spec and voltages and such in the lower right hand corner.  The source is 20kv.

The switch at the bottom right needs to be closed when charging the cap from the source and closing the switch at the top right will close that circuit to charge the 10uf cap, hold till charged. Then open the switch at the bottom right. If you dont open the switch before discharging into the LRC, the sim will have an error. So this separates things so the will work.  You will notice the cap got charged to almost 40kv. Its the inductor at the top right that gives us this ability and the diode rectifies the charge.

Now  close and hold the switch to the left of the top right switch to discharge the cap into the coil. Watch the second scope view and when the green trace hits zero, release. 
When discharged on time you should have close to 400kv b boppin.

Now the time line can be seen in the lower right corner when the curser is in an open area away from the components, in the black area.  We are running slow to get the timing points visible for discharge.

Ok   Now I am going to my next post describing some things.

Some PCs will have a hard time with the sim if the pc is less than 2ghz but it will work, just a bit slow when flipping switches, checking and calculating all components being active in the circuit.
Have fun, and believe.

This is for Otto



Mags

One more thing    the charge circuit works with 12v or wutev too. Should give about 17 to 18v into the cap from the battery or any source. Its not free though, its all still coming from the source,  its the inductor that pulls the extra from the batteries and stuffs it into the cap using the diodes 1 way valve properties to null oscillations in the charge circuit .  Nifty..    But can we use that pull from the inductor to just take the EXTRA from the other side of the cap at the right time by switching away from the battery?   Would that give us more out than in?  =]

Night


Mags