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Offline Grumpy

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #90 on: September 29, 2009, 02:02:12 PM »
tesla's spark gaps are obsolete, we have a much better solution to that ok.

a matter of series and parallel connection will solve your problem ok its an elementary technique  ;D

semiconductor switches in avalanche mode or simply switched - transistors, MOSFETs, etc.

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #91 on: September 29, 2009, 02:16:08 PM »
while we are here - question about mosfets : can they work in HV ? well I know that most cannot work above 1000V , but I saw Don Smith schematic and he states that by using proper voltage dividers they CAN switch huge power (amps at high voltage). Do they work in floating mode (not grounded) with proper voltage difference between gate,source and drain terminals while switching HV ?

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #92 on: September 29, 2009, 06:00:20 PM »
@Tito L. Oracion

Been reading this thread and I only have two questions that will NOT push you to give out anything and will give guys here a better understanding of what they are not doing with their devices.

So my questions is................................

1) How many steps does your device have to go through to produce your output. I am not asking which steps but how many.

2) How many loops are in your steps.

You can answer these questions with numbers only like 5-1, meaning five steps and one loop, or, 6-2, and so on.

Thanks in advance.

wattsup

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« Reply #92 on: September 29, 2009, 06:00:20 PM »
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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #93 on: September 29, 2009, 08:15:33 PM »
wattsup,

by loop do you mean positive feedback ?

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #94 on: September 29, 2009, 10:55:25 PM »
@forest

You can actually call it whatever, but I don't think it is feedback. Feedback for me means a small portion of the output (or from anywhere else on the circuit) is sent back to give another pulsing signal. What I mean by loop means portions of a circuit that permit the total output or a serious part thereof feeding back to a source point that then increases the overall energy driving the circuit. But not feedback. But @tito could be using 0 loops with 15 steps. What I am curious about is only that, how many steps, and if used, how many loops.

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Offline Goat

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #95 on: September 30, 2009, 04:12:11 AM »
Hi goat good day

what i'm saying is, as i am studying tesla's different kinds of patent, i concentrated most in this patents:
a) U.S. Patent 0,568,178 -
b) U.S. Patent 0,568,179 -
c) U.S. Patent 0,568,180 -
d) U.S. Patent 0,577,670 -

i've read also the teslas interview what forest's is posting in this subject

and i come up in a very simple solution when i combine bearden and bedini's technology.

sorry buddy i cannot give my circuit yet but  i'm telling you the truth.  :(

the only thing that i did not give is the arrangement of the circuit. ok its an rlc.

DO YOU KNOW THAT USING THIS METHOD CAN GENERATE KLWATT FROM A 1.5 VOLTS!
ofcource sub-staging technique must be used ok.  8)

Thanks for the info Tito :)

The Tesla Patents you posted are a great hint in but I'm at a loss for crossing over from his circuits to Bearden and Bedini's technology to turn it into an OU circuit.... ???....

The Devil's in the details and I'm not accomplished enough to put the puzzle all together yet so I'll wait.

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Paul


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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #96 on: September 30, 2009, 07:51:33 AM »
@Tito L. Oracion

Been reading this thread and I only have two questions that will NOT push you to give out anything and will give guys here a better understanding of what they are not doing with their devices.

So my questions is................................

1) How many steps does your device have to go through to produce your output. I am not asking which steps but how many.

2) How many loops are in your steps.

You can answer these questions with numbers only like 5-1, meaning five steps and one loop, or, 6-2, and so on.

Thanks in advance.

wattsup

hi sir good day!  ;D
actually it depends how you started it, and how you make your transformer, its just a matter of transformer technique, the secret is how will you make a connection from the source of not making it drained and making huge amount of electricity from a small source. that is i beleive the real secret of our previous inventors and scientist like tesla, hubbard, moray etc.

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Offline Tito L. Oracion

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #97 on: September 30, 2009, 01:43:33 PM »
ok

its a case to case basis when i tried 1.5v > 1klw well its

1.5v>3v>6V>12v and thats it.


but..........................

for every steps there are branches of many energy producers ok!

inverters are available ready made in the market all you need is that you must have the energy needed by the inverter ok  8)

thank you very much bye for now, i'm busy making more power.

the more the circuit the better the performance in the sence of durability.
 :-X

by the way, no one is prohibiting us to use charcoal isn't it, which is very much safe and available than radium.  ::)   

Tesla made lightning of 13MV, why can't we? can't we not use that into a 
                                         useable energy?
how to control a big machine or a rocket using only a push button?

how to control an elephant?

what is yin and yang  ::)

WE ARE VERY LUCKY TODAY BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF TOOLS TO USE.
EVERYTHING IS READY MADE, ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS CHEW IT , THINK AND COMBINE.
« Last Edit: September 30, 2009, 02:19:36 PM by Tito L. Oracion »

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #98 on: September 30, 2009, 02:46:28 PM »
HI EVERYONE GOOD DAY!  ;D

WHY WE MAKE THINGS SO DIFFICULT  ???

BATTERY IS A PERFECT SOURCE OF INPUT.

Einstein says why you have to measure it by your self?
that is already in the book.

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #98 on: September 30, 2009, 02:46:28 PM »
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Offline Tito L. Oracion

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #99 on: September 30, 2009, 02:58:46 PM »
Hi everyone

TPU is good but for me now i am not interested anymore. i have my own way ok.


nothing but a junk!

this is just one of tesla patent that he cares not verymuch ok.

Sorry for all tpu fans but its true there are much more better way to make things good ok. don't stuck your self from this tpu subject let it die ok.

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #100 on: September 30, 2009, 04:01:57 PM »
You need to understand about core saturation.

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #101 on: October 01, 2009, 08:23:35 AM »
Hello all,

@Tito

why to let the TPU die?

Dont you see it?

Its the same principle as you use it. Its "only" a conversion device like Tesla, Mory, Sweet....and others had done it many years ago and now we are again "inventing" them. To say it in this way.

So, I see no reason to stop my work on a TPU. And I will NEVER give up because I see no reason why to stop.

Otto




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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #102 on: October 01, 2009, 02:11:35 PM »
Hello all,

if I am not wrong this thread should deal with Tesla technology and especially on 'Energy Amplification' so perhaps it is a clever idea to return to origin.

TESLA TMT

I wonder, as not seen in other threads, if anybody did really tested the Tesla TMT targeting exactly the E.A....if positive I would appreciate very much to get a link OR enter in contact with sombody that already seriously tested that device.

I am referring to TMT operating at 7 MHz similar to one realized & demonstrated by K. Meyl. Said device does really show the presence of longitudinal wave and the weird TX-Rx virtual connection with some power coming indeed not from conventional sources.

...I thought often about it and I still pondering if collecting energy from many radio-kind receivers does lead to costless power without any impact on the radio-transmitter itself. To bring some new (perhaps…) I will detail a longitudinal wave approach instead of the classical Hertzian wave (transverse) interpretation according to Maxwell equations.

So let us start from the beginning.
The discovery of the Tesla radiation is denied and isn’t mentioned in the textbooks anymore mainly because lacking of a suitable field description. The Maxwell equations in any case only describe transverse waves, for which the field pointers oscillate transverse to the direction of propagation. What intrigues me is the so called ‘Vortex model’ associated with the Longitudinal waves so often cited. The question thus is asked, what the divergence E describes in this case? How is the impulse passed on, so that a longitudinal standing wave can form? How should a shock wave come about, if there are no particles which can push each other? The now often found answer is extending Maxwell’s field theory for vortices of the electric field. These so-called potential vortices are able to form structure and they propagate in space for reason of their particle nature as a longitudinal shock wave. The model concept bases on the ring vortex model of Hermann von Helmholtz.

Now let us go back to Tesla’s TMT.
 
With reference to attached pic, If both electrodes are pulled apart, then between both you find an electric field. The field lines start at one sphere, the transmitter, and they regroup again at the receiver. If a sinusoidal waveform is step up in the transmitter, then it is again step down at the receiver. The output voltage should be smaller or at maximum equal the input voltage: that’s the standard understanding.

ACTUALLY IT SEEMS THAT MANY SCIENTISTS FOUND THAT MUCH BIGGER!

If the law of conservation of energy should not be violated, then only one interpretation is left: the open capacitor withdraws field energy from its environment.

Near field interpretation
The effects measured in the near field of an antenna appear weird, because they evade the normally used field theory, but seems to fit close the scalar wave hypothesis. A possible suggested explanation goes like that: The charge carriers which oscillate with high-frequency in an antenna rod form longitudinal standing waves. As a result also the fields in the near zone of a Hertzian dipole are longitudinal scalar wave fields.

Vortex interpretation
An interpretation could be the following: The vortex decay depends on the velocity of propagation which seems several scientist (Tesla, Dollard, etc) have calculated  > than EM velocity, so major than c. These very fast vortices behaves in a weird way: no Faraday cage is able to shield: they don´t have a charge on the average over time. As a result they almost unhindered penetrate solids.  t may be that the surplus energy coming out from the receiver is a neutrinos by-products. Well I may add that I know an inventor (Shad) which is supplying a similar kind of device called ‘neutrino egg’.

Considerations:
Finally I wonder if that concept could be exploited laying for example 8 receivers in the near field of a single pancake Tesla transmitter (TMT) and collecting in series the Receivers output, much like the various Hubbard like topologies.

Literature
1 Nikola Tesla: Apparatus for transmission of electrical energy. US-Patent No.

645,576, N.Y. 20.3.1900.
2 Nikola Tesla: Art of transmitting electrical energy through the natural mediums,

US-Patent No. 787,412, N.Y. 18.4.1905.

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #103 on: October 01, 2009, 02:46:02 PM »
About Tesla Magnifying Transmitter

Tesla  said it will run idle when there is no receiver.Energy is preserved.
I think energy transfer in case of existing receiver may be such, that first current is send through the Earth at speed c, then returns somehow via elevated capacitances ,then stationary wave is formed. Much like in capacitor. In fact Earth is one plate while both elevated capacitances are second plate.
It is oscillating circuit IMHO.

But let's look at it from simpler point of view : we know that Tesla coil is able to step up voltage much higher then normal transformer. All we need is just : take for example half of that raised voltage and convert into amperage .

How ?


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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #104 on: October 01, 2009, 02:46:22 PM »
ok

its a case to case basis when i tried 1.5v > 1klw well its

1.5v>3v>6V>12v and thats it.


but..........................

for every steps there are branches of many energy producers ok!

inverters are available ready made in the market all you need is that you must have the energy needed by the inverter ok  8)

thank you very much bye for now, i'm busy making more power.

the more the circuit the better the performance in the sence of durability.
 :-X

by the way, no one is prohibiting us to use charcoal isn't it, which is very much safe and available than radium.  ::)   

Tesla made lightning of 13MV, why can't we? can't we not use that into a 
                                         useable energy?
how to control a big machine or a rocket using only a push button?

how to control an elephant?

what is yin and yang  ::)

WE ARE VERY LUCKY TODAY BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF TOOLS TO USE.
EVERYTHING IS READY MADE, ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS CHEW IT , THINK AND COMBINE.

@Tito L. Oracion

OK, thank-you for your kind reply. I understand everything you are saying and it does make sense. Of course it makes more sense for you since you are the maker, but I really do understand the general idea.

Funny you should mention those Tesla patents which are variations that also include the Tesla Ozone Patent No. 568,177. That patent is a prime step that any OUer should know about as a basic method. The only part is the end usage to concentrate the high voltage into lower voltage higher amperage. That is where the battle will be won.

So creating a short (Relay, Switch, Rotary, Transistor, Mosfet - or other) over a DC supply and disconnecting that via one or more high inductance coils, one or more charge capacitors, one or more (series or parallel) working transformers and you can do what Tesla always said did not waste energy, and that is working with damped waves permits you to return most all the energy back to the source. I think that is what you mean by using small energy. You can use small energy at a time, but you can use bigger energy and give most of it back and that consumes the same as the small energy. lol

Meaning, you can run a very small circuit using a battery and consuming only .1 amp at 12 volts and never returning this energy back, or, you can use 12 volts at 4 amps with the Tesla method and put back into the battery 3.9 amps. Both ways you are consuming only 1.2 watts but the second way you are running a much bigger device hence you have a better chance of getting more output. Makes perfect sense.

So I gather by indicating an inverter, your main device output is 12 vdc with good enough amperage to run an inverter and get your 220vac at 5 amps 50hz output. OK sounds logical but only if the 12vdc production is clean and steady otherwise most commercial inverters will go into an automatic shut-down. Hmmmm.

Also, regarding wasting time on the TPUs, in a very big way you are right that it is a waste of time because anyways, we will never be able to prove whatever we make, even if it follows the style of an SM TPU, will be exactly like the original, but again, who cares. Some are close enough and I am also especially working on and learning from the FTPU. But it does not stop us from doing other things in between. lol

Added:

@ronotte

Just saw your post at same time as mine. Hmmmmm.

Good ideas.

I am putting a diagram I made a good while ago that I think is close to what you are saying.
« Last Edit: October 01, 2009, 03:15:58 PM by wattsup »

 

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