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Offline AlienGrey

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8460 on: March 15, 2020, 06:04:33 PM »

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8461 on: March 15, 2020, 08:42:25 PM »
Hi Chet,

I saw this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJylD7xpEiU
The person who made the video above wrote a paperback book. And I thought it was opening some doors for me,
and I started rethinking those notion of getting energy from resonance.

It's like using an echo in cave. You get back echo's without ever having to expend the energy in  your lungs. Now if you yell out, and time your yells in a cave, you build energy by re-enforcing the wave - we say it is a standing wave. That was Tesla's Earthquake Machine.

Now if you have system that can draw the energy from the output - without affecting the input... you should be in business.

But the point is, you have to engineer a process to do specific tasks. Not create circuits that magically happen to do that. That doesn't mean people can't trip over it accidentally. From what I can remember, Bedini said that he was surprised when his first pulse motor kept running by itself, and I believe he said he wasn't able to re-create that again.

I am not there yet, but hey I found the relationship between Giza and Tesla.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sy1OEsm7io



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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8462 on: May 04, 2020, 01:45:59 PM »
I came back here to just to help ok!
Here is the secret of free energy.


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« Reply #8463 on: May 04, 2020, 03:46:08 PM »
Tito,
I hope all is well in your part of the world...
Mr XR-X1 guy above makes a good contribution towards understanding a possible gain mechanism,and honestly your "plug" a nice small tester for this.
 You play games with peoples lives ...hope your having fun.



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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8464 on: May 06, 2020, 07:57:08 PM »
XR IX
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It's like using an echo in cave. You get back echo's without ever having to expend the energy in  your lungs. Now if you yell out, and time your yells in a cave, you build energy by re-enforcing the wave - we say it is a standing wave. That was Tesla's Earthquake Machine.

Now if you have system that can draw the energy from the output - without affecting the input... you should be in business.

Your analogy is good but incomplete.

A better analogy is that we would yell into the cave and time it with the echo and with each echo all the bats in the cave would move. Understand, we did not create the bats nor have we moved them, they moved themselves which is energy due to our very small excitation. This bat cave analogy is the basic concept of free energy and resonance is simply a better way to reduce our input increasing efficiency.

As well, Tesla's Earthquake Machine was simply a very efficient oscillator. It didn't dissipate large amounts of energy but conserved it so the pulse strength could grow larger with each impulse. When the strength of the impulses became very large it started tearing stuff apart. The lesson here is not so much resonant oscillations but conserving the energy present and building it up to extreme levels. It is the extreme level of energy present which tears stuff apart not simply oscillations.

Think of nuclear fusion, a small energy input releases a larger amount of energy. Where did the energy come from?, the input only excited something already present which contained more energy. Thus we did not create energy we simply used the input to transform something already present and the transformation released a larger amount of energy. Nothing can be created or destroyed only transformed... this is the way.

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8465 on: May 07, 2020, 06:26:14 AM »

As well, Tesla's Earthquake Machine was simply a very efficient oscillator. It didn't dissipate large amounts of energy but conserved it so the pulse strength could grow larger with each impulse. When the strength of the impulses became very large it started tearing stuff apart. The lesson here is not so much resonant oscillations but conserving the energy present and building it up to extreme levels. It is the extreme level of energy present which tears stuff apart not simply oscillations.

Think of nuclear fusion, a small energy input releases a larger amount of energy. Where did the energy come from?, the input only excited something already present which contained more energy. Thus we did not create energy we simply used the input to transform something already present and the transformation released a larger amount of energy. Nothing can be created or destroyed only transformed... this is the way.

Regards

onepower, I think you have many good points, and one bad one.

Conservation of Momentum [Good]: Tesla did say that you can store the energy, so think of this we can create an almost perfect storage of energy. If you think of how efficient batteries are you see the genius in what Tesla made.

Quote from: Nikola Tesla
I do so, but I prefer to reduce those waves in quantity and pass a current into the earth, because electromagnetic wave energy is not recoverable while that [earth] current is entirely recoverable, being the energy stored in an elastic system

Unknown Impact to Earth's Dynamics [Good]: I think Tesla came up with some system, but of course with the mentality of his time, he couldn't grasp the environmental impact. As you said he built an Earth quake machine, but didn't know it could bring down a building or split the Earth, change the rotation, many unforeseen consequences that today we can model and theorize impact.

But would it destroy the Earth when the process happens in everyday:

Quote from: Nikola Tesla
Many times, in regularly recurring intervals, the same actions were repeated until the storm which, as evident from simple computations, was moving with nearly constant speed, had retreated to a distance of about three hundred kilometers. Nor did these strange actions stop then, but continued to manifest themselves with undiminished force. Subsequently, similar observations were also made by my assistant, Mr. Fritz Lowenstein, and shortly afterward several admirable opportunities presented themselves which brought out, still more forcibly, and unmistakably, the true nature of the wonderful phenomenon. No doubt, whatever remained: I was observing stationary waves.

I think you maybe a little off on your nuclear fusion theory [Bad]: From what I gather from typical cafeteria talk fusion theory (which is truly out of my depth) nuclear fusion doesn't take a little amount of energy... and that's why all don't have one in our basement (unless you are Taylor Wilson). A thermonuclear bomb takes a fission bomb to compress and heat the deuterium and/or other fancy hydrogen isotopes in the second stage fusion reaction. So it seems a fourteen year old can create bursts of energy to make a fusion reaction happen, but making it happen requires sustained power. I like thinking about this stuff, but in the end, they had the answer in Cold Fusion, and das kapoot


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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8466 on: May 09, 2020, 11:34:31 AM »
Tito,
I hope all is well in your part of the world...
Mr XR-X1 guy above makes a good contribution towards understanding a possible gain mechanism,and honestly your "plug" a nice small tester for this.
 You play games with peoples lives ...hope your having fun.



Chet K
>:( i 'm not playing games with peoples!!,
Ok, i'm telling the truth!!!
And this is actually tesla is
Trying to say to the world.
You know what , you destroy someone just because you don't know.
What ever!!! ;D
https://youtu.be/JxAMNzlUFFE
https://youtu.be/6ymnKOFYj6I


This is the truth! Start from small into an avalanche. ;)
i will not post anymore, cause you just makes me
Bad!!!
Bye! ;D

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8468 on: May 09, 2020, 09:35:50 PM »
>:( i 'm not playing games with peoples!!,
Ok, i'm telling the truth!!!
And this is actually tesla is
Trying to say to the world.
You know what , you destroy someone just because you don't know.
What ever!!! ;D
https://youtu.be/JxAMNzlUFFE
https://youtu.be/6ymnKOFYj6I




This is the truth! Start from small into an avalanche. ;)
i will not post anymore, cause you just makes me
Bad!!!
Bye! ;D



Kamusta Tito,

Have you posted any diagrams, schematics, Bill of Materials needed to make a device?
Do you have a video of a functioning system perhaps?

[Disagree] Actually Tesla wasn't saying that at all. In fact it's that thought process that drives people down dead-end research. People end up building Tesla Coil devices, thinking that resonance alone arbitrarily creates over unity. That is in no way true, it wasn't true for Tesla. Tesla struggled to find a way to harness the energy from the ambient, he called it it ether.

IMHO He had two different ideas:

1) To store energy in a capacitor he built up, and release it in small duty cycle pulses. When you do that once across a transformer primary, you generate oscillations that you get for free. 

Quote from: Nikola Tesla
Energy stored in the condenser and discharged in an inconceivably small interval of time. You could not produce that activity with an undamped wave. The damped wave is of advantage because it gives you, with a generator of 1 kilowatt, an activity of 2,000, 3,000, 4,000, or 5,000 kilowatts; whereas, if you have a continuous or undamped wave, 1 kilowatt gives you only wave energy at the rate of 1 kilowatt and nothing more. That is the reason why the system with a quenched gap has become popular.

2) His TMT was actually using energy from a standing wave, but it is a system like an air-conditioner is a system - Not a single circuit. He wasn't using #1 and said so.

Quote from: Nikola Tesla
Counsel

Did you find that that was the best condition for transmitting energy without the use of wire?

Tesla

No, I did not use that method when I was transmitting energy. I used it only in the production of those freaks for which I have been called a magician. If I had used merely undamped waves, I would have been an ordinary electrician like everybody else.


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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #8469 on: May 10, 2020, 06:39:39 PM »
Please remember the Latin phrase:
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Caveat emptor
let the buyer beware

Read, ask questions and comprehend what Nikola Tesla was trying to do.

Read this first: http://www.pbs.org/tesla/res/res_art08.html
pay attention after "...It was on the third of July--the date I shall never forget..."

Then read this: http://www.pbs.org/tesla/res/res_art07.html

If you comprehend what he is doing, I think you'll agree that you can take device that looks fairly simple (e.g. Kapanadze, Don Smith device)  because they are only parts of systems, and claim that the device is producing free energy, because it is attached to the load. That would be like looking at a lamp, and flipping the switch and saying the switch is producing free energy.



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« Reply #8470 on: May 13, 2020, 02:22:50 AM »
@XR IX
   Yours is a fresh look at things. Tesla was a wonder in his own time. He was sadly used by the typical system for the gains of money and power as usual. As time passes, more of the meanings of what Tesla was about comes to light. I was not privy to the site you posted just now. There are scattered writings and videos of his life and works. There seems to be a wealth of things at the link. The more you look through his eyes, the more understandings you have of how things work. Late in life, he did realize that the system had no place for some of his advancements. In fact, the US raided his his room and took all his records to make sure they had only certain stuff so as to have an advantage. He was a very complex person and saw things in vastly different ways than the layman.
   I myself sometimes have much grief trying to understand what he is trying to convey. It takes a while and some experiments to see just what is really going on. Had he been a businessman and the inventor of his time, he would have made JP Morgan look like small change and we would live in quite different circumstances for sure. The world would be vastly different.
   That is why the next great leap in technology can only be given free to the world as a whole and not try to see how much money I can make.


   My thanks for linking this place for us to read.


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« Reply #8471 on: May 13, 2020, 03:06:15 AM »
It is sad to see what happened to Tesla despite his love and innovative approach to helping man kind, but have to be pragmatic about the mechanisms that caused his problems. We have to accept that anything written or presented may be just distraction to obfuscate the truth. I followed Don Smith's works for a number of years, and realized there must be missing pieces to what we now have access to. We analyse with reasonable doubt that what we see is not pristine and has been altered.

The weakness of humanity is greed, and it is that alone that deprived us to the solutions presented by Tesla and Don Smith (and many others) it was their own greed. Not someone like J.P. Morgan, but by their act of simply not sharing.

We can evolve. I may not be able to build these devices and show you a video, that would be pointless anyway, as it would get tossed in the pile of garbage faked videos. I can't show you a schematic, because versions would appear to taint the information.

I can show you my ideas, and welcome the challenge of those theories... because I could be wrong.

Then again I may be right  ;)

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« Reply #8472 on: May 13, 2020, 03:31:33 AM »
Ah. Tito is back.  Still around here ehh?
If the Avramenko plug is part of it, then what we would need is an LC circuit, or a bifilar coil, as it is a coil with more capacitance built in, and a way to pulse the coil so that it oscillates at high freq and use the Av plug to extract energy from the oscillating coil to a capacitor. 

I would imagine that using the av plug on 1 wire end of the LC or Bifi coil.  The pulsing to keep the coil in resonance is what the output of the AV plug would have to output to keep that part of the circuit going for a basic self runner.
Ive been working on some bifi coils lately but I havnt tried to use an av plug to extract from the oscillations. Will have to try that.
Not sure what freq of oscillations Tito is thinking about. Never gives those details as many times as I have asked.

Ive been trying to use Teslas  Igniter for gas engines patent to drive the bifilar oscillations. In the patent the cap is charged up via a collapsing field of the 'large' inductance of Teslas circuit. But I am using the large inductance to charge up the bifi coil capacitance and then shorting the 2 series windings. Using a secondary coil to extract from the oscillations kills off the oscillations very quickly. So maybe the AV plug is the answer.
Here are some vids I have done on the Igniter pat circuit.  Typical points ign system uses about 70w and the coil will heat up. With the Igniter circuit I have reduced that to less than 1w with just as good of a spark.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkdIDbiCxTM&t=2s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgDbBsA15C4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IafARcXrTs4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTzab0CnBIo
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« Reply #8473 on: May 13, 2020, 03:35:57 AM »
Depending on the large inductor I use, my input of 4v is getting the oscillation of the bifi( actually a trifi 3 wires for other testing) to over 500v. So maybe the AV plug may work. Have to try
Mags

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« Reply #8474 on: May 15, 2020, 03:21:55 AM »
Here is the trifi coil. Made the bobbin with a Creality ender 3 pro 3d printer. For the Ecore I have, the printed bobbin length is short to fit a second thin bobbin for a secondary output, and or even a drive coil to fit the inner core length snug.
8 layers 3 wire 26ga. While playing one day, my scope on the output had shown some very good output in a particular config. But after a few seconds it would drizzle down and stay down. But if I shut it down and power it up later, it was great output then drizzle. I found that in that config, the coil capacitance was charging and privided diminishing output as it charged. I have 3 windings. So I wasnt sure what was happening yet.  So for some reason I pulled a pin out of the circuit and happened to touch another pin of the 3rd winding, and the scope jumped back up.  So that lead me to charging the coils capacitance first, just 2 open ended windings, then just short the 1 series ends and it gives a nice high voltage oscillation. Doesnt take much to charge the coil capacitance as it is a pretty small value, so ive gotten into using a large inductor of much higher ohms than the bifi or trifi coil and pulse the large inductor and use its field collapse to charge the bifi capacitance to a high voltage and short the ends in a timely manner. I was surprised actually how long the bifi capacitance would hold its charge before I would short the pins when I first got on to this.
Not saying it is anything yet, but it is a cool deal to integrate the Tesla Igniter circuit and the Coil for electromagnets bifi coil.
Mags

 

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