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Author Topic: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION  (Read 3190661 times)

Offline Tito L. Oracion

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #4470 on: February 13, 2014, 11:00:41 PM »

Offline totoalas

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #4471 on: February 13, 2014, 11:45:53 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD_Bwwvlc3I
 ;)
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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #4472 on: February 14, 2014, 12:11:20 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD_Bwwvlc3I
 ;)

At last! Tito is going to build something and demonstrate the truth of his claims! A simple "self powering" circuit containing a 555 timer... that should only take him half an hour to put together, another half hour to measure and document on video. So, adding in some upload time, in a couple of hours we'll be seeing Tito's own video illustrating the actual device _running itself_ , rather than this simulation. Right?

Riiiiiight.


Offline Magluvin

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #4473 on: February 14, 2014, 03:14:11 AM »
Hi Mags,

Very good build and indeed efficient.  Speaking of resistance,  for motors it is the AmperTurns which counts first, then consider the 'copper loss' with the 0.5 mA current and the 15 kOhm, it gives only 3.75 mW loss, a low number with respect to the 80 mW input draw.   However if you think of utilizing any energy from the collapsing field, then the 15 kOhm is 'in the way' and can cause 'precious' loss.
Thanks for showing the video.

Gyula

Hey Gyula

Ampere turns.  Lets consider my coils. The bobbins are .7in dia, 1/8in deep and the core post(plastic) is 1/8in.   So some turns are lengths of wire that are say 3.14/8 in and the outer turn wires are 2.198in in legnth.  So, is it to say that the inner turns put out equal amount of flux as the outer turns? Or does it end up being an average thing?

Mags

Offline Tito L. Oracion

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #4474 on: February 14, 2014, 03:35:16 AM »
At last! Tito is going to build something and demonstrate the truth of his claims! A simple "self powering" circuit containing a 555 timer... that should only take him half an hour to put together, another half hour to measure and document on video. So, adding in some upload time, in a couple of hours we'll be seeing Tito's own video illustrating the actual device _running itself_ , rather than this simulation. Right?

Riiiiiight.


Wrong!!! >:( ;D


                           My scandal is much excited than that one promise.!!! ;D ;D ;D

Offline Tito L. Oracion

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #4475 on: February 14, 2014, 03:43:18 AM »
anyare    aga gising   Hi blood  n b  akala ko link mo na  bum 8) bay boses mo bossing? ??? ;D
Ang pussso   wag kalimutang tumibok at baka kunin na ni Lord
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yan ang pinsan ni abiso, tingnan mo man ang pangalan. ??? :-\ ;) :P


at ako tatay nila


basagnabaso ;D  natatawa ako hi hi hi hi :D  santong kabayo, mukha kang aso hihihihi ;D :P

Offline Magluvin

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #4476 on: February 14, 2014, 03:53:08 AM »
Dear Mags.

I felt compelled to compliment you on the build quality of your motor !!  :)  It is a credit to you.

This was the first time I had seen your motor as I never got much encouragement from the tests I carried out with these types of devices. keeping a motor ( Window Coil ) running continuously for 3 months was ok !! The drive battery never went flat but that was about it !!  You can't heat a house from it !!  :)

Keep up the good work.

Cheers Grum.

Ive seen what you are talking about. Are you saying that the motor wasnt capable of doing any appreciable work other than free running?

When I first had all my coils wound, I tested the motor with 1 coil, 2, then 3 and so on. 1 coil had good speed and torque. But much higher input to do so.

But here in my vid, the way I see it, we can see the motor has usable torque and reasonable speed, all with the power that is less than a typ blue led. I suppose we tend to think that leds dont use much running continuously.  Even 10 leds seems like a lot of light for the power consumed. But they seem like power hogs to me now,in a way. lol

So what if we had 10 of these motors stacked, 800mw. From what we see in the vid, do you think it could run those fan blades reasonably( the fan in the vid posted 2 pages ago by Aking) ?
That fan runs at 12w, and a 10 stack is .8w. I think it could be equal to better with the 10 stack from having this experience with this motor.

Lasersabers motor was 'running' at 1ua with say 3v. It has some torque, but ran slowly. So his motor, the way he ran it for demo at 1ua, can run for a very very long time. he used a germanium diode in series with his coils but it was reversed. The diode he used has a reverse leakage of 1 ua and was used as a current limiter.  He also ran it up to 100v, around there, by charging the cap by spinning the rotor up and generating current to the cap, and the motor sends current to the cap through the diode forward biased. So his motor has the ability to charge the cap from the motor faster than the motor uses current from the cap. Very neat ideas he has.

Laser uses a needle axle with ruby bearings like in a watch mech. I went with hobby shop bearings where I remove the grease thoroughly and worked in graphite. My bearings work really well, but lasers needle is better at reducing axle resistances. But Im thrilled with what Im working with. Lasers motor runs at below 1v, mine at just over 1v or more to run. he is also running larger dia mags, I think 1/2in x 1/8, mine are 3/8in x 3/16. Im making another rotor with the larger mags. It will run better. If they were 1/8 x 1/16, it would be less better. ;)

Mags


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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #4477 on: February 14, 2014, 04:20:28 AM »

Wrong!!! >:( ;D


                           My scandal is much excited than that one promise.!!! ;D ;D ;D


Tinsel Koala was being sarcastic. By riight he meant wrong. It's an English language thing.

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #4478 on: February 14, 2014, 11:18:33 AM »
reactive gen
for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction
opposites attract


Offline Tito L. Oracion

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #4479 on: February 15, 2014, 12:31:48 AM »
 ;D .

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #4480 on: February 15, 2014, 12:52:00 AM »
 ;D

Offline totoalas

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #4481 on: February 15, 2014, 01:49:08 AM »
 :'(
Haw  sweyyyyt

Offline Magluvin

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #4482 on: February 15, 2014, 02:42:10 AM »
 :o ;D :o

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #4483 on: February 15, 2014, 03:37:10 AM »
reactive gen
for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction
opposites attract
I think you might need some sort of capacitance between...
maybe an inductance....
otherwise you're really just in series
and the induction emf is going to be countered by the forced current flow....

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #4484 on: February 15, 2014, 02:06:06 PM »
. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D