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Offline Qwert

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #1860 on: February 15, 2012, 07:14:58 PM »
Yet another tip: an excerpt from R Colloway answer to J Bedini challenge at www.keelynet.com/evgray/powrtube.htm  :  "...If you place a arc gap at S1, a increase in voltage occurs. If you collect S1 in a capacitor and time it to discharge into ANOTHER battery via a arc gap (getting it out of the loop) the potential is multiplied."

I'm just following Ismael Aviso, which I consider a successful guy in this theme. These sites appear in his videos.

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Offline Magluvin

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« Reply #1861 on: February 16, 2012, 04:22:55 AM »
Here are a couple pics of the transformer.

The first shows the single layer secondary output.

The next 2 show the trifi primary, ends are not terminated yet. Doin it now. And with the core.

See, nothing special. Looks normal.  But is it?  :o ;)

Mags

Offline Bob Smith

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #1862 on: February 16, 2012, 05:18:56 AM »
 :-X The Tito Code ;D
 
Who will break the Tito code
To power a resistive load?
Will Mags with trifi be the one
To make this strange new setup run?
 
Nothing special, normal looks
But maybe this one really cooks.
Time will tell its secret tale
Begun with Tito's cookie trail.
 
Hours of thinking, reading, zapping,
Wire-buying, wrapping, mapping.
The kick, the kiss, what did we miss?
And now it's all come down to this...
 
Ride on Sir Mags, and break the code!
Remember those who with you rode!
And as you fight this noble fight,
We too will strive toward the light.
 
Who will break the Tito code
To power a resistive load?
With time its secret shroud will fail
Revealing Tito's holy grail.
 
To be continued... :)

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Offline Magluvin

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #1863 on: February 16, 2012, 05:37:58 AM »
Nice Bob.. Your good. Just rolls off like a song.  ;]

I usually like to lay out what Im going to do, before I do it, when there is a plan that seems good, unusual, and fresh. This way the word is out before the balls are on the table. ;]

Was up late last night. Gota get some sleep here soon.

Thanks for that Bob. Im sure everyone will like it. ;]

Mags

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #1864 on: February 16, 2012, 05:38:44 AM »
WOW, you rock Bob !!! ;D 8)

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Offline Magluvin

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #1865 on: February 17, 2012, 05:00:16 AM »
Ok, some measurements.

the 35 turn secondary is .11 ohm

Each of the primary windings are 1.37  1.39 and 1.40 ohm 

Capacitance measured between primary windings is 2.2nf, between any of the 3 as they were wound together.

The difference in the primary ohms may just be lead connections with the meter leads, as they should all be very close in length being wound at the same time. During the 8th layer, some of the turns dug into the 7th layer. Maybe 7 wasnt as tight as it should be, maybe the bobbin expanded a bit from the layers of wire pushing outwards at the end. But the winding neatness was just a bit bumpy after layer 10.

So there could have been a chance that one of the wires is a bit longer than another by the time 10 layers were finished.

Measuring the capacitance the bifi was odd. Working with just 2 windings, and one of the meters probes connected to one winding, and the other probe to the other winding.

If the probes are on the ends of the bifi at the beginning of the winding, the meter reads 0.0nf .

But if you move one of the leads to the other end of the same winding it was connected to, I get 2.2nf. I tried it with all 3 windings and it was consistent.

And for giggles the primary to secondary capacitance is .2nf.

Meter used  Wavetek 2030

Inductance meter is on its way.

Mags

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #1866 on: February 17, 2012, 06:24:10 AM »
I think Bob's poem inspired me. Time to get out of the deep depression I've been in for a very long time! I'm clearing off the work bench (junk collector) and finish what I started almost 2 years ago. Mags, I don't want to deter you from what you are doing. I'll wait to tell, till your done building and testing your current vision.  8)
Thanks guys ;) ;D <-- ME HAPPY

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Offline Magluvin

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #1867 on: February 17, 2012, 06:32:40 AM »
Hey Tech

No Problem. Show your project.  The more the better.  ;]

Mags

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« Reply #1868 on: February 17, 2012, 07:02:37 AM »
Hey Tech

No Problem. Show your project.  The more the better.  ;]

Mags

not now I'm in cleaning mode :P BFN ;D

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Offline one_christian_warrior

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #1869 on: February 17, 2012, 07:12:53 AM »
how about energy multiplucation
where you have two equal voltage motors
one is DC for input
which has a large pulley attached to it
the second motor is AC
on a much smaller pulley
this way your driver motor only turns a few times
while your output motor spins hundreds of times
you get a multiple of power out
compared to the power you put in
you run your output motor, (or multiple motors)
through a full wave bridge rectifier and voltage regulator
I proved this works
with my electric wheelchair
gaining 20 feet more distance up a steep hill
every time I drove up the hill fast
and then drove back down the hill slow
(I had to set my chair to max torq=1st gear and max speed=10th gear)
http://free-energy.yolasite.com/

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #1870 on: February 17, 2012, 07:06:58 PM »
Tito method is easier, in fact one of the most easy way. I have only one problem, how to charge capacitor from back EMF. Usually back EMF or collapsing magnetic field spike (which is probably wrong definition) is higher voltage then applied EM force. We need a way to slow it down or decompress to lower voltage. Maybe big piece of graphite or carbon like Edwin Gray was doing ???

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #1871 on: February 17, 2012, 08:02:17 PM »
@Forest,
 
 the answer is a capacitor
 
 
Garry

Offline spikeyvoltage

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #1872 on: February 18, 2012, 12:59:27 AM »
Tito method is easier, in fact one of the most easy way. I have only one problem, how to charge capacitor from back EMF. Usually back EMF or collapsing magnetic field spike (which is probably wrong definition) is higher voltage then applied EM force. We need a way to slow it down or decompress to lower voltage. Maybe big piece of graphite or carbon like Edwin Gray was doing ???

Your theory is erroneous.

Does not matter in the least how giant those spikes are, whether it be 20 volt or 2000 volt, without current they are useless.  You will be waiting until the end of time to charge a battery on 'radiant' spike if there is next to no current behind it.
 
Dont believe me?  I dont care.   Conduct the experiments yourself.  Bedini is a liar who sells big expensive motors and battery rechargers and Tito is fooling with all of you.  Bedini machines all output current and  voltage spike so dont for a moment believe all this nonsense that people have regurgitated over the years "what we must find is the stanley myer 'situation' where there is no current but magical spike and then the angels will sing and water will fall apart".  LMAO

YES, spike makes charging battery much more 'efficient' (and desulfates) but do not believe for a moment that you can somehow take out of one battery a certain amount of energy and make this energy more expansive into another 4 batteries.  Build the devices (and every other variant) and you will see that in order to charge a battery you ALWAYS need current.  It is so simple to perform a child can do it.  Measure the current going out and measure the current coming back and you will see that it is always less.

Is this a good method to 'conserve' energy?  Yes.  Sure we can attach a light bulb directly to a battery and then kill it.  OR, we can make the bulb part of the circuit and charge another battery (which is what bedini copied in Tesla works).  HOWEVER, what do you think is happening with every turn of wire on a coil, every inch of wire within the circuit, every time a light bulb turns on within that circuit???  Answer = LOSSES. The field whether it be magnetic, thermal or 'other' is bleeding everywhere.

Kapanadze which is a Tesla ripoff does the same thing.  There is no 'amplification' of current, only amplifying of voltage in order to make a more efficient INVERTER.  The efficiency jumps up to around 98% because of the structure of the circuit (conserving and recycling) but there is NO OU.  Wesley and the other buffoons screamed "OU OU" months ago whilst holding dimly lit 100 watt bulbs.  Now they see that it is not OU, only foolishness.  A  cheap inverter from radio shack is more efficient than their current setup.

Look at all the Kapanadze videos.  90% of them he runs from mains.  The others he has a battery inside a box that slowly runs down.  NONE or his demos ever run for an extended period of time.  Do I say this because I dont understand it?  NO.  Quite the opposite.  Once you understand how this works and conduct the appropriate experiments, there is no more illusion or wonder, only a educating of yourself.  Magnacoaster???  LOL!!  Tito uses examples like this as free energy??  It is laughable and shows how much he misleads himself and all of you.  If anyone thinks Magnacoaster is OU they are a fool.  The guy is a known fraud who is taking money from internet folk and is yet to deliver not even one device.  Have a look at his videos...YES there again he is recycling and conserving energy but it is NEVER more than COP 1.0.  He has HUGE capacitance battery that would take days to run down and yet ALL of his demos and energy tests have never exceeded 4 hours.  Did the battery have more when he finished the test??  It certainly should if he is more than cop 1.0 right!!  But no,,,every result is the same with some silly statement like "see, only 200Ma less in the battery" and a  incorrect summation of how to calculate power.

Ismael Aviso?  Again, conservation of energy yes, however MASSIVE battery banks that show less in them after running for a couple hours.

Orbo?  Millions of dollars funding and not one single replication showing a self running device.  All correctly evelauated tests have fallen flat.  They are terribly quiet lately.

Broli is 100% correct when he pointed out Tito's lies and madness but you all chose to ignore the evidence because you first do not understand the essence of Tesla's most basic experiments.

Not one single time did Tesla have a self running device and yet Tito misquotes him and you believe this fool outright.  Where did Tesla ever have a OU device or patent?  I have read all his patents and I encourage you to do the same.  Once you understand what is happening you will see that tesla was all about efficiency and NOT OU.  Why do you think every one of his patents lists a source of power generation (always a generator or alternator or similar).  He always plugged into the towns power supply or some other method.  The Pierce Arrow had big banks of batteries and RECYCLED 98% of the energy.  However, people spin stories about antennas on the vehicle and some nonsense about sucking power from the air. 

Yes Telsa was a great mind.  Fantastic invention.  His tower was all about BROADCASTING energy and making it cheaper (or free) to the people.  But was there an excess?  NO.

Anyway, believe what you want to believe.

All energy is the same and behaves under the same universal pricinples.  When you shout into a canyon and hear the echo, this is resonance and a 'reflection' of decaying energy (sound and resonance in play).  However does your voice come back to you louder than the original shout?  Does it keep hollaring back at you and then 5 minutes later still be going??  LMAO...The world would be a noisy place if this was the case!!  Hahaha.  I have circuits that I designed which run for 20 minutes on only 6 volts and 8Ma stored in a tiny capacitor.  The energy 'echoes' and reverberates around and around in a recyling fashion.  But output???  NEVER any more output than input for the reasons stated before = LOSSES.

Have a nice day.

Offline Magluvin

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #1873 on: February 18, 2012, 01:36:17 AM »
  The Pierce Arrow had big banks of batteries and RECYCLED 98% of the energy.  However, people spin stories about antennas on the vehicle and some nonsense about sucking power from the air. 

Show me where you got that information.

Mags

Offline d3x0r

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Re: ENERGY AMPLIFICATION
« Reply #1874 on: February 18, 2012, 03:14:04 AM »

Does not matter in the least how giant those spikes are, whether it be 20 volt or 2000 volt, without current they are useless.  You will be waiting until the end of time to charge a battery on 'radiant' spike if there is next to no current behind it.

I agree... but if voltage goes across a resistance it has current? [contrary to the idea that the whole thing is about voltage and current should be limited, since the presure wave advances from the actual flow, so 0 current is ever attained]  so sustained high voltage spike chains will be current...maybe the can be put across a load and become a current? how close do they have to be?  Tesla was also about chains of shuttle circuits (OSC)... they would all participate in the resonance... seems like a hassle to have to design everything self harmonizing to external spikes

 

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